Lebanon gets stupid, allies itself with Hezbollah.

Noobtastic

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http://www.jpost.com/Home/Article.aspx?id=168304

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8507482.stm

The Lebanese government will stand with Hizbullah in the event of a war with. Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri said overnight Tuesday in an interview with the BBC.

Hariri said was escalating its threats against as well as . "We see what's happening on the ground and in our airspace and what's happening all the time during the past two months,” he said.

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For those who don't know, Lebanon is now a member of the UN Security Council.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council#Non-permanent_members
 
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cubeless

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you need to take a breath and calm down... you can't even cut and paste straight...

and since when has the un security council meant anything?

and i didn't think you'd be that cute in your halloween costume...
 

Noobtastic

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you need to take a breath and calm down... you can't even cut and paste straight...

uh?

do i appear aggressive?

and since when has the un security council meant anything?

well, like it or not unsc is the premier international forum currently in existence. the fact that the most powerful terrorist organization now has pull in the unsc is very telling.
 

Dari

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Are they supposed to side with the attacking enemy or remain neutral while Israel holds them responsible (as Israel is legally able to do)? What's the point of this thread?
 

DesiPower

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who would have protected them if they didnt? Once US sold itself to PRC, all their hopes were gone.
 

Lemon law

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We have to somewhat understand that Hezbollah did not even exist until Israel started its occupation of Lebanon following its civil war.

And largely because the Israeli occupation was extremely frugal and did not build up the Lebanese government or anything else, and as a result there is very little Lebanese fondness regarding the Israeli occupation.

And during the time of the Israeli occupation, Hezbollah and its social wing formed to provide the Social services Israeli did not provide.

So why should we assume the government of Lebanon should turn its back on Hezbollah? And what we may not known is how much Iranian and other foreign aid
coming into Lebanon may be contingent on keeping Hezbollah as a semi autonomous part of Lebanon.
 

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We have to somewhat understand that Hezbollah did not even exist until Israel started its occupation of Lebanon following its civil war.

Yes. Hezbollah was not some magical response to Israel's presence in Lebanon. It was first merely an extension of Iranian foreign policy, and then became part of Syria de-facto occupation. The leaders of Hezbollah report straight to the Syrian leadership.



And largely because the Israeli occupation was extremely frugal and did not build up the Lebanese government or anything else, and as a result there is very little Lebanese fondness regarding the Israeli occupation.

Israel's strategy was a quick and decivie victory. Israel did not want to get stuck in Lebanon as they were stuck in the West Bank. The goal was to remove the PLO from South Lebanon and get out as quickly as possible. But it was nothing like Syria's occupation in Lebanon.

the Christian minority resent Israel for abandoning them in the wake of international pressure and possible US sanctions. Of course Hezbollah promised their security, and then they started assassinating top-christian leaders and stifling any criticism of Syria.


And during the time of the Israeli occupation, Hezbollah and its social wing formed to provide the Social services Israeli did not provide.

Actually, Israel treated over 160,000 wounded Lebanese during the war (over 1,000,000 were wounded), while Syria and Jordan shut down their borders and Hezbollah was blowing up American G.I's.



So why should we assume the government of Lebanon should turn its back on Hezbollah? And what we may not known is how much Iranian and other foreign aid

Hezbollah is a terrorist organization.


As always Lemon Law, you distort history and apologize for Islamic terror. How can you call yourself an American when Hezbollah has killed however many citizens and called for the dismantlement of the USA?

Disgusting.
 

Lemon law

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Sorry, IHateViruses, we still cannot divorce ourselves from reality, you can call me a disgusting American until you are blue in your face, but we are talking Lebanese attitudes not American attitudes. Do you want honesty or do you want everyone to buy your desired myths? After all, it matters little on what you think or I think, what is important is what the people in the region think.

And now even Christian Lebanese hate Israel because they too were un necessarily bombed during the 2005 Israeli rape of Lebanon.

And even I will concede that both Hamas and Hezbollah have a semi terrorist military wing but their appeal to the areas in question is largely mitigated because both organizations have a far more larger social wing.

And I don't know what rock you stuck your head under as you read the recent Pew survey, but if Fatah can't peacefully advance the formation of a Palestinian State, Fatah will be and is losing overall support. With Hamas increasing its polling support in the West Bank.

The fact is and remains, a just Israeli state can not be based on Palestinian oppression, and if peaceful opposition does not lead to progress, why should we not expect violent
protest?

As a patriotic American I hope I can see both sides, and such a shift can lead to a long term mid-east peace based on non Violent co-operation and compromise can be achieved.

After 62 years of the same ole same ole, it should be apparent that the everything to benefit Israeli strategy is not working.
 

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So where are the french peacekeepers in Lebanon? I guess the un dont mean squat. If I was Isreal I would consider everyone in Lebanon a terrorist. They need to say so publicly so the average citizen there understand what is going on. Lebanon is just another facist regime. I would no longer consider it even a sham of a democracy.

I pity the people there who just want to live in peace. They are the pawns of the facist dictators and terrorists.
 

SamurAchzar

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Very good I say. Now entire Lebanon can be held accountable to what Hezbollah does, no more stories of "we didn't know, we didn't agree". It makes the job much easier for Israel, both on the military and the diplomatic side.

Now a sane man would ask himself, what kind of business does Lebanon have with fighting Israel? Don't they have more important domestic concerns?

(The truth is, the Lebanese never wanted this mess, but Hezbollah just became too powerful to brush aside, and young Hariri doesn't want to end up like his father, so the devil is doing good business buying souls in Beirut)
 

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So where are the french peacekeepers in Lebanon?

UN peacekeepers do nothing. They just sit inside air-conditioned bunkers while Hezbollah smuggles thousands of rockets and missiles. UN has been caught collaborating with Hezbollah.

Then they complain when Israel flies UAVs over Lebanon.



http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22681_Jawdropper_of_the_Hour&only

Spanis UN Peacekeeper greeting a Hezbollah supporter. Keeping the peace eh Spain?



Sorry, IHateViruses, we still cannot divorce ourselves from reality, you can call me a disgusting American until you are blue in your face, but we are talking Lebanese attitudes not American attitudes.

I'm talking about your attitude. Don't apologize for Hezbollah than play the victim. Hezbollah murdered hundreds of Americans, and if it had the chance would murder all of them.

Disgusting.

Do you want honesty or do you want everyone to buy your desired myths? After all, it matters little on what you think or I think, what is important is what the people in the region think.

Clearly most Americans buy my desired myths. Why not actually respond to my post (should be easy since they're myths) instead of continuing on with your Islamist propanda?

And now even Christian Lebanese hate Israel because they too were un necessarily bombed during the 2005 Israeli rape of Lebanon.


You mean 2006? Christian Lebanese hate Hezbollah. Less than 2% of the christian population support hezbollah, opposed to 80% of shiites.

hezbollah did not target christian neighborhoods. look at the bombing maps, overwhelmingly majority of hits were shiite areas.

why? cause shiite = hezbollah.




And even I will concede that both Hamas and Hezbollah have a semi terrorist military wing but their appeal to the areas in question is largely mitigated because both organizations have a far more larger social wing
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LOL! "semi terrorist military wing." Both Hamas and Hezbollah have rejected the military wing propaganda. They openly state there is no political wing. "We are all against Israel." Hezbollah even wrote a letter to Britain telling them to fuck off with their "dialogue."

Hezbollah, like the Nazis, make the population dependent on them. there is nothing humanitarian about these organizations. hamas has looted UN buildings and sold aid on the black market. hezbollah hides behind women and children, shoots near UN buildings, and inflates civilian casualties for propaganda.

fucktard.




As a patriotic American I hope I can see both sides, and such a shift can lead to a long term mid-east peace based on non Violent co-operation and compromise can be achieved.

bullshit. you are an anti-american hating douchenozzile who should be deported to saudi arabia.

After 62 years of the same ole same ole, it should be apparent that the everything to benefit Israeli strategy is not working.

israel has one every single war since 1948 and continues the be the military an economic super power of the middle east.

if it weren't for US and European intervention the arab states would have been demolished and replaced with pro-israel friendly governments.

the strategy you propose calls for the dismantling of the most progressive and modern state in the middle east.

you expect israel to behave in a way even your country does not.
 

Zorkorist

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Yeah,

Lebanon is an easy bomb.

It's just ridiculous today to endorse a terrorist group.

America is still mad about 9/11.

-John
 

SamurAchzar

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Yeah,

Lebanon is an easy bomb.

It's just ridiculous today to endorse a terrorist group.

America is still mad about 9/11.

-John

Again I can't blame them - the Sunni and Shia groups there hate each other even more strongly than they both hate Israel (look at the Pew survey circling around here), but with no one to free them from the shackles of Iran and their proxies, they can't do much in the way of an independent foreign policy.
 

Zorkorist

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It's up to the people to decide.

They can back a strong leader that takes them into the 22nd century, or they can cow-tow to the present leaders.

They can arm themselves (figuratively and litteraly) and fight, or take pleasure in other folks pain.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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Again I can't blame them - the Sunni and Shia groups there hate each other even more strongly than they both hate Israel (look at the Pew survey circling around here), but with no one to free them from the shackles of Iran and their proxies, they can't do much in the way of an independent foreign policy.
Some one has to come in and destroy Islam. Destroy Religion. It's about the only way Shia/Sunni wars will be over.

Government is the thing that destroys Religions.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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But, obv., it can't be the Shah of Iran.

Democracy is that which kills Religion.

-John
 

sandorski

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Ah gee. One day Israel will realize that it is its' own worst Enemy. You can't achieve Peace if all you do is Demonize the other side.