Lebanon conflict in May of 2007?

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gaidensensei

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Does anyone here go back around from the Lebanon conflict in May of 2007? Was the city ever hit by an air bomb several hundred pounds worth?

There's a lot of controversy over this topic in OT and I figure the people here who keep up with politics and the news might know more about this or not.

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I looked at this P&N thread but no one mentioned anything about it.
 
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DesiPower

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the only problem I see is that ppl still running after the ah heck exploded... Is Israel importing cheap Chinese bombs now?
 

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Yeah, it's called pallywood.

In this case...hezbollywood..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXy6q4cH4pw

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You have to understand how media rights work in the ME.

When Arafat returned from Africa as part of Oslo 1, the very first thing he did, the very, very first thing he did....was take control over the media.

Between 1967-1980~~ journalists had a lot of freedom to travel to and from the West Bank and Gaza. Journalists, both Palestinian and Israeli, had no fear of being punished by Israel for leaking a humiliating story. Not to say various PLO groups didn't punish their own for daring to say naughty things to the Israeli press, but it was high priority to protect the rights of journalists or else it would be exploited by the UN/Europe to condemn Israel.

Now, when Arafat showed up and received his new bastardized PLO a.k.a PNA, he threw out all independent media. Any Israeli journalists stationed in the WB/Gaza were expelled to Israel. Palestinian freelancers who worked for Israeli newspapers were thrown out expelled. Foreign journalists who wouldn't sign up were thrown out and expelled. Those who remained were placed under the direction of PLO propagandists...were merged into newspapers like Al-Fajy, Palestine Telegraph, etc...

One famous journalists - Khaled Abu Toameh - was one of the original Palestinian journalists expelled from the West Bank after Arafat took over. He defected to the Jerusalem Post, where he writes stories describing the institutionalized corruption and cronysim that exists within the so-called "moderate" Fatah.

He has provided extensive testimony documenting the way media is controlled by the Palestinians. How freelancers from BBC, the Guardian, CNN, Fox News are almost always under the thumb of PLO.

In fact, most mainstream journalists live in Jerusalem, and export their stories to Palestinian freelancers. This is especially the case for Gaza, where BBC relies exclusively on Palestinians for stories.

And considering anyone who dares criticizes the leaders are punished and can be killed...we can assume most stories that are broadcast from so-called reputable sites are almost always 100% filtered through Pallywood script.

This is why BBC has not published a single critical piece of Hamas in Gaza. Only papers that dare to post fair and balanced coverage are Haaretz, Jerusalem Post, and Christian Science Monitor.

ALL BBC shows is bullshit "blockade" human interest stories. Oh noes..Gazans can't get canned fruit because Israel won't deliver it, even though Israel isn't under any legal or moral responsibility to a ship a single ounce of grain to Gaza.

There was a huge scandal 2 months ago about how Abbas cronies siphoned millions in USA-aid earmarked for promoting reform in the Palestinian government (oh the irony). Abbas then sent death squads to Palestinians who knew about the scandal, threatening their lives if they dared talk to the press.

Abbas even called Nateyanhu and asked him to shut down the media over the story...and he said even he wanted to, he had no authority to do so.

Not one foreign news published the story. Only Jerusalem Post.

There is something seriously fucked up about how Palestinians exploit reality, going so far as to exploit the effects of conflict, to demonize their enemy.

It seems the Palestinians value the opinions of BBC and the Guardian more than the lives of their own citizens.

Why else do they hide behind civilians, then showcase the after math...accusing Israel of deliberately killing children...when it was Hamas/Fatah that killed them.

This isn't unique to the Palestinians. Afghani and Iraqi insurgents do this shit all the time, but only Arab news bites.

Most western journalists won't dare collaborate with sources that accuse British or American soldiers of being inspired by racism, committing genocide, pillaging, deliberate acts of murder, etc.

But when it's Israel...oh, there are no standards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallywood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaled_Abu_Toameh
 

gaidensensei

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Wow nice summation.. kudos for putting me up to speed.
Basically seems like most of this is news crap is used for propaganda spread.
 

Genx87

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There was one Lebonese(sp) man who was a hospital worker, bomb victim, gun shot victim, construction worker, and something else. Somebody posted the pics during the conflict. It was utterly hilarious how we are duped by these groups in the west.
 

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absolutely not. Israel never bombed Lebanon at all. Israel never did anything. They are absolutely innocent. This war was forced upon it. In fact, it was the Lebanese that pounded Israel day and night. Eurasia has always been at war with Eastasia.

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I'm also not sure about what any of 'IhateViruses' has written has to do with any of this. The PLO (with Fatah essentially controlling it) has always been a shill for the Israeli govt; acting as Israel's policeman on their behalf. Any corruption is corruption the US and Israel would know about; and in Israel's case, they are content with it because it breeds an elite class that follows the wishes of their Israeli Overlords who have the real power. There are very few that still believe in the bullshit of state building while living under apartheid ( watch this by Ali Abuminah who cofounded EI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq6yGxV4Ph0) . The only reason it is still alive at the moment is with Israel's and the US's financial assistance.
I think it is telling that one can dismiss any photo as "Pallywood". I have no idea of this photo or its history, nor am I truly concerned with a single photo's authenticity because there are a million more undoctored photos showing what is going on for the Palestinians living under occupation such as this simple photo http://www.annainthemiddleeast.com/photos/judaizing/2594/

If you are serious about learning about the conflict beyond the sensationalized, inaccurate, and outright false bullshit in the media, I highly suggest you start at a place like http://mondoweiss.net/
 
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Noobtastic

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absolutely not. Israel never bombed Lebanon at all. Israel never did anything. They are absolutely innocent. This war was forced upon it. In fact, it was the Lebanese that pounded Israel day and night. Eurasia has always been at war with Eastasia.

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I'm also not sure about what any of 'IhateViruses' has written has to do with any of this. The PLO (with Fatah essentially controlling it) has always been a shill for the Israeli govt; acting as Israel's policeman on their behalf.

LOL WHAT! The PLO is not controlled by Fatah. Fatah is merely one organization out of several dozen that make up the PLO.

Fatah is the original Fadeyaan group, created by NASSER, to fight Israel from the Gaza and Sinai which Egypt occupied. Then it gained ground in the West Bank, and started launching operations against border towns...with jordan and israel scrambling to stop them.

The PLO is one of Israel's biggest enemies. It is the god-father in modern terrorism. Hijacking airplanes, torching embassies, HELLO! Arafat was indicted by the US government for the murder of American diplomats.

Dear god...Fatah has killed more Israelis than all Islamist groups combined. How can you seriously say the PLO is Israel's shill...are you detached from reality? Have you ever read a book?



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ny corruption is corruption the US and Israel would know about; and in Israel's case, they are content with it because it breeds an elite class that follows the wishes of their Israeli Overlords who have the real power.

Oh I see, so the fact that the PLO is corrupt - like most Arab governments, it is somehow Israel and the United States fault.

Well isn't that convenient. What a classic leftist feature. Assigning blame to the easiest scapegoat, in this case Israel. Not surprising, Arab's tend to put all their troubles on the Jewish problem.

The Palestinians have their own leadership that operates independent of Israel. If anything, Europe has a much closer relationship with the PLO than Israel or the USA.

Part of Oslo 2 was getting tough on Palestinian corruption and forcing Arafat to stop siphoning humanitarian aid for profit. Even fellow Palestinians called his ministry of water, ministry of theft because all it did was pirate water piped by Israel and sold it back to West Bank operators for profit.

And then...of course, when Palestinians bitched about not getting enough water...they point the finger at Israel, even it was their leadership that stole it.

But ahh...just blame Israel right.




There are very few that still believe in the bullshit of state building while living under apartheid ( watch this by Ali Abuminah who cofounded EI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq6yGxV4Ph0) . The only reason it is still alive at the moment is with Israel's and the US's financial assistance.



Peddling more propaganda? Do you even know what an apartheid is?

EI is a hate-site that apologizes for idiot pallywood propagandists and mostly appeals to their leftist, Western ignorant supporters who couldn't find Israel on map.

most Palestinians have no idea it exists. All they know is that they're being used so moronic Europeans can burn Israel flags and whine about how their government is victim to a Zionist lobby.

Meanwhile, Pally leadership lives richer than the queen of england...ahh, but I guess that's Israels fault too, no?




I think it is telling that one can dismiss any photo as "Pallywood". I have no idea of this photo or its history, nor am I truly concerned with a single photo's authenticity because there are a million more undoctored photos showing what is going on for the Palestinians living under occupation such as this simple photo
http://www.annainthemiddleeast.com/photos/judaizing/2594/

Yeah, and you can't take a picture in the WB or Gaza without the tacit approval of the leadership.

Nothing unusual about this conflict. Well, except that it is one of the most irrelevant in history, yet most studied in modern times. The Left portrays the Palestinians as the worlds biggest victims on the planet.

but of course...only in the context of Israel. Palestinians in Lebanon who are subject to apartheid status....oh wait, can't criticize Arabs. They're aren't zionists.



Please read a book you shill.
 
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