Learning the truth about Santa

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There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist (except maybe in Japan) religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the population reference bureau). At an average (cencus) rate of 3.5 children per household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming there is at least one good child in each.

Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 967.7 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child, Santa has around 1/1000th of a second to park his sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stocking, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get onto the next house.

Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but will accept for the purposes of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom stops or breaks. This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second, and a conventional reindeer can run (at best) 15 miles per hour.

The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized LEGO set (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500 thousand tons, not counting Santa himself.

On land, a conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that the "flying" reindeer can pull 10 times the normal amount, the job can't be done with eight or even nine of them---Santa would need 360,000 of them. This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons, or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship not the monarch).

600,000 tons travelling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance - this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second each. In short, they would burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would be vaporised within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the same time that Santa reached the fifth house on his trip.

Not that it matters, however, since Santa, as a result of accelerating from a dead stop to 650 m.p.s in 0.001 seconds, would be subjected to acceleration forces of 17,000 g's. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering blob of pink goo. Therefore, if Santa did exist, he's dead now. Merry Christmas.
 

DaveSimmons

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. . . instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering blob of pink goo. Therefore, if Santa did exist, he's dead now. Merry Christmas.
LOL! "yes, Virginia there WAS a Santa Claus" :D
 

djheater

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When asked my mother told me that Santa was the spirit of giving and that he does exist whether there is a physical representation of him or not.

I tell my children much the same thing. I agree that it is not harmful to preserve the tradition and magic of the idea. This has been addressed before by Hotchic.
 

Squisher

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I did a paper in Comp 1 called "The Dark Side of Santa Claus" that discussed the reasons to perpetuate the lie or 'fess up.

It all comes down to the fact that my wife and family looked at me like I was Satan himself when I suggested that I didn't want to tell my kids there was a Santa Claus.


 

HappyPuppy

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I can only feel pity for those who don't believe in the spirit embodied by Santa Claus. I learned at a very young age and I raised my kids to believe. It took a few years to convince them, but they eventually understood. Santa Claus lives!
 

Genic

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Honestly... where do you people find this stuff? :Q What are your jobs? Give me the address to send the resume to. :D
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: notfred
I don't get why people tell thier kids that stupid story in the first place...

You must be the Scroogiest man in the world! For chrissakes, have you no sense of magic, or fantasy? Parents tell their kids these kinds of stories because their kids! Just look at their faces, their eyes when they hear these stories. My god, let the kids enjoy believing. They don't have to know how the world really works, they're just little kids.
 

WyteWatt

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I believe in Santa Claus still because there is a lot of stuff we don't know. Yes i asked my parnets before a long while back if Santa Claus was real but they said no. I didn't care because i still believe in Santa Claus no matter what. Nothing is impossible.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: notfred
I don't get why people tell thier kids that stupid story in the first place...

You must be the Scroogiest man in the world! For chrissakes, have you no sense of magic, or fantasy? Parents tell their kids these kinds of stories because their kids! Just look at their faces, their eyes when they hear these stories. My god, let the kids enjoy believing. They don't have to know how the world really works, they're just little kids.

Sorry johnjohn but that's not accurate. Children have a unique and underappreciated perspective on the world, as a matter of fact they seem to have a better handle on the "way the world works" than many adults. I happily cooperate in the spirit of Christmas with my children, not because I'm protecting them from the world, but because it allows me to remember the magical joy that christmas can hold.
 

WyteWatt

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johnjohn320 yep true but they really aren't so little when some of them do horrible things. I didn't say all i just said some. I won't be surprised if we see younger and younger in the news. Heck the King Brothers shocked the world but i don't think we will ever know the truth about it.


 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: notfred
I don't get why people tell thier kids that stupid story in the first place...

You must be the Scroogiest man in the world! For chrissakes, have you no sense of magic, or fantasy? Parents tell their kids these kinds of stories because their kids! Just look at their faces, their eyes when they hear these stories. My god, let the kids enjoy believing. They don't have to know how the world really works, they're just little kids.

Sorry johnjohn but that's not accurate. Children have a unique and underappreciated perspective on the world, as a matter of fact they seem to have a better handle on the "way the world works" than many adults. I happily cooperate in the spirit of Christmas with my children, not because I'm protecting them from the world, but because it allows me to remember the magical joy that christmas can hold.

You're last sentence is all I was trying to say. Telling kids about Santa isn't protecting them from the world, that's not what I was saying. I'm saying you don't have to always be so practical with them. Sometimes make-believe and expanding their imagination is more important.
 

WyteWatt

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No one can proof that Santa Claus is not real and is real. But i don't care i still believe in Santa Claus and always will.

 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
ROFL! I now have a photo for my e-mail Xmas cards, thanks! :D
Think of it as my present to you for Christmas. I love that picture and was thinking of using it as a card too, lol.

Here try this:
http://www.thionite.com/santacard.asp?person=David+Paramedic

you can change the name on the card by changing the text after "=", note that spaces must change to "+" and the ampersand "&" isn't allowed. Feel free to use this, I'll keep the script on the server until at least the 26th.

Santa e-Card