Learning musical instruments later in life

OCNewbie

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I'm 34 years-old and I want to learn to play the violin. I had one lesson recently, and felt like I did pretty good considering I had never before held a violin, much less played one.

So, I'd like to hear from anybody that has picked up an instrument for the very first time much later than is typical, and how successful you were.
 

SillyOReilly

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I know a few guys that picked up the skin flute even after being married for many years and a few children later.
 

Fritzo

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Learning later has disadvantages because younger minds absorb music and language much more efficiently, but it can be done. I taught my father-in-law how to play guitar and he was 61.
 

Chaotic42

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I didn't do it as an adult, but as a child I played the saxophone. One thing I can say is that while it's cool, it has to be something you really want to do. It takes tons of practice and you need to determine what level you want to get to. If you want to get good, it's not unreasonable to practice more than one hour per day.

If you want to get great? I'd treat it like a second job.
 

ReggieDunlap

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I recently bought a guitar and have started to try to learn to play. My father played and my brothers plays (extremely well) so I figure I have the aptitude. When I was younger I didn't have the discipline to practice and get past the painful fingers. It didn't help that the guitar was most likely a mess as far as playablity.

So now I have a gorgeous Washburn WD15 SCE solid top acoustic. I have about 20 days of actual practice time with an avg of about 35 minutes per session. I've worked past the major finger calluses and pain and now just have to learn the chords.

I think when you so something like this later, your choice is based more on you WANT to do this and therefore dont see the necessary practice time as a bother.
 

ThePresence

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You probably picked the most difficult instrument to learn as an adult. Most accomplished violinists, or even good violinists started learning as young children. But good luck and keep us updated. I would love to learn violin as well. I play saxaphone and guitar. Learned was I was young.
 

OCNewbie

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I played piano a bit as a kid, and I feel like I've always been fairly musically inclined, I just never dedicated myself fully to one instrument. I've always thought the violin was gorgeous, so I'm hoping to give it a go and see what happens.
 

dougp

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I played the violin for over 10 years, and I want to pick it back up - I own one that is a decent student violin.

Depending on your teacher or mindset, you have to understand that the violin is probably one of the most difficult instruments to play because of the technique and the amount of notes and scale available. Don't be afraid to use finger tapes, and make sure you learn how to read sheet music properly. Also, it's one of those instruments where your passion really comes through - if you find a piece dull or uninteresting, your sound will match it. Also, a good bow and strings can make a mediocre instrument sound great, but cheap strings and a synthetic bow will make them sound shoddy. Horse hair + wood bow will always be better than fibreglass and synthetic hair.
 

digiram

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I don't play any instruments, but I've started making music lately. Just using synths, sampling, and mixing. Wish I learned to playing something while I was young.
 

Via

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Violin is tough for an older beginner. Even a child has to spend years of daily practice to sound decent, and most adults just don't have the patience for that. It takes the muscles needed to control the instrument properly a long time to develop, and adults also have to overcome the aquired rigidness of their motions (and of their general mindset as well).

That being said - I know a doctor who started playing at 49 and managed to stick with it long enough to learn to play pretty well all things considered, so I know it can be done.

Good luck.
 

ImpulsE69

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I've been learning new instruments on and off all of my life. I was a band geek, and played 3-4 different instruments. I also self taught myself piano back in highschool and have been playing it ever since.

About 8 years ago while I was overseas one of my friends showed me the basics of guitar and since then I've been slowly learning more (currently own 3 guitars lol). This year I have been learning to play the bagpipe :D

Good luck with the violin.
 

MichaelD

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You're never too old to begin doing something that interests you and that you find enjoyable. Just remember that to do anything in life you need two things: Aptitude and Attitude. You need the basic skills for the task and the desire to accomplish the task.

You say your one lesson went well; that's encouraging. Lessons are pretty much mandatory for violin. I hope you get a decent teacher; theory is important but can kill your interest quickly.

I played guitar for roughly 25 years; mostly acoustic strumming and some classical fingerpicking...never could shred on electric but play good rhythm guitar. Three years ago on a whim I bought a cheap electric bass and discovered that I've been playing the wrong instrument my whole life. :oops: Got better on bass in a year than I did in the past...15 years on guitar. Go figure.

Granted, the two instruments are very related; stringed, fretted, same notes an octave lower on a 4-string bass. But it just goes to show it's never too late to learn an instrument.
 

paulney

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As a kid I was forced to play clarinet, and I hated it. After 4 years in a music school, I dropped out. Later in college I tried to pick up guitar, and was able to play some simple tunes, but never got good at it with all those self-teaching DVDs and what not.

About 2 years ago I tried the piano, because I always wanted to play boogies. Really really wanted, but nobody in Russia taught that kinds of music style when I was there as a kid. I purchased a decent digital piano, and started with self courses on youtube. Then, when I realized I reached a plateau, I found a music teacher.

It's been now going on over 2 years, and I can read music, play fairly intricate jazz stuff, pop and classics, since she trains me in classical style to be able to read and play anything, and I pick up jazz tricks on my own.

It takes a lot of discipline with 2 kids and a household to run, but it's doable. Practice is key. Having a good instrument is a must. Having a digital piano in my case where I could always don on the headphones and play away was a savior. This way I can play any time of night I want.
 

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do you realize how unfunny your comments are in your attempts to troll?

I don't give two fucking shits about your opinion, you pathetic fuck.






I also see that after I gave you that infraction for excessive profanity, it was clear you didn't listen, because that's what this infraction is for. , and this is the third today. Apparently mod infractions don't mean much and to tell you the truth I am tired of spending this much time with you so take a week off


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Madwand1

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I'm 34 years-old and I want to learn to play the violin. I had one lesson recently, and felt like I did pretty good considering I had never before held a violin, much less played one.

So, I'd like to hear from anybody that has picked up an instrument for the very first time much later than is typical, and how successful you were.

I've started piano and violin as an adult, together with my child, and made decent progress. Don't fall for the "kids learn better than adults" or "you can't learn when you're older" mentality -- it's simply not true. There is no magic age for learning to play music, and adults often progress much faster than kids, because the ones who try are generally better motivated as well as being more developed. I know this firsthand, as I have progressed much further than my kid in both instruments, can see that he has the same difficulties by large, and no magic ability to surpass them.

That said, there are some obvious and some subtle advantages to starting very young. As an adult, you should probably not aim to be a concert musician given that it's a competitive field and you'd be competing with others who have been doing it for decades already. A child who learns from a capable or learning parent has the advantage of a much enriched learning environment, and can pick up things with less practice time.

Learning piano is difficult because you have to coordinate at least two different musical lines between the two hands, and have to do more theory learning to be able to sight-read well, which is also harder because of the two parts involved.

Learning violin is still harder though, because you have to get the pitch just right, and maintain that even though your own hand and fingers may be stretched against that, while also maintaining perfect control of the bow through changes. Learning violin can be very frustrating for those reasons, so you need a good environment, self-motivation, and patience to get over that and develop.

A practice mute can help a lot for some of the environmental factors in violin. Piano is much easier in this respect -- you can get a digital one and practice that at all hours using headphones.

You can use a digital tuner to help you get started in learning the pitches, and accompaniment tools such as Smart Music to learn pitch matching by ear. These are highly recommended, and I can see a lot of improvement in my kid's intonation due to accompaniment, but you also have to learn to be able to play in tune without these aids.
 

Madwand1

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You're recommending a practice mute to a beginner?

Sure, it's better than not practicing because the noise affects other people. It's also better for your ear physically.

I'm not advocating practicing only with a mute, as you do need to hear more to develop some things further, but it's a very useful tool, and you can do a lot of work while using one.