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Leros

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
you are tailgating and the people who leave a gap between them and the car in front of them are doing it right. quit pretending you're jeff gordon and learn to drive you ignorant prick.

no, im not. learn to read, you ignorant prick.

AmigaMan is right. You are supposed to leave a gap. You need to chill and read a driving manual.

I am leaving space. If you cannot understand what is going on then you are probably one of them. Those who, when coming to a complete stop, leave a 6-10 foot space in between thier car and the next. I am not tailgating anyone, I am not following them closely. This is in traffic jam, bumper to bumper, gridlocked traffic. You understand? Do I have to take a freakin picture for you to get this? wtf.


I understand exactly. You are in traffic. The car is not moving 95% of the time. When you are moving, you are going 5mph or less. Nonetheless, the proper way to drive is to leave a gap. Learn to drive.
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Whisper
However, there are definitely things people do while driving that piss me off quite a bit more...tap dancing on the brake pedal at any point being one of them.

Oh yeah, don't get me started, I could probably make a rant thread every week. People in Hawaii really do not know how to drive. :(

you're in Hawaii? Dude, chill out. YOU FRICKIN LIVE IN PARADISE! Either you just got your license and are a young punk or you're not from the islands. In any event, you realize most people would love to be in your situation? I'm guessing that you must be on Oahu since the times I've been in Maui, BI, and Kauai the traffic wasn't that bad.
 

randay

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
you're in Hawaii? Dude, chill out. YOU FRICKIN LIVE IN PARADISE!

When you live here your whole life you don't see it the way others do. Also the cost of living here is jacked. Live in "paradise" = pay out the ass.

Either you just got your license and are a young punk or you're not from the islands.

I don't appreciate your assumptions about my character. Ive had my license for 8 years and I am 25. No accidents.

In any event, you realize most people would love to be in your situation? I'm guessing that you must be on Oahu since the times I've been in Maui, BI, and Kauai the traffic wasn't that bad.

Morning and rush hour traffic is horrendous. Oahu needs some sort of mass transit so badly its not funny. takes me up to 20-30 minutes to make a 7 mile commute to and from work.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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Originally posted by: randay
You know those fvckers who leave like a 10 foot gap between them and the car in front of them? I always seem to end up behind these fvckers. And the worst part is its in BUMPER to BUMPER traffic! They make abrupt stops as if coming closer then 6 feet to the car in front of them will cause damage to thier car! This morning some fvcker in front of me was doing this, he would do the whole stop early sh!t, and then after he stops he would inch forward into a normal position. He stops fvcking twice when he only needs to stop once! Then we merge onto an onramp and I'm like "Yes! I don't have to drive behind this fvcker anymore!" NOPE, no luck. I merge in behind some lady who apparently thinks the speed limit is 5 miles per hour. Also she leaves like a 15 foot gap between her and the car in front of her. And this is morning/rush hour traffic on freeway/highway.

/rant


edit: I am not tailgating, or accelerating hard during traffic, its a matter of the guy in front of me braking unnecessarily and abruptly because they want to keep a "safe" 6-10 feet of space in front of them even though this is 0-5mph bumper to bumper traffic.

In traffic, I almost always leave a gap. My clutch thanks me. Leaving a gap, and trying to inch forward at a constant speed allows me to keep my foot off that pedal, and keep the clutch from wearing out. If I jumped ahead to every car, stopping and going, it'd be a hell of a lot more work for me, and a hell of a lot more wear for my clutch.
 

randay

Lifer
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Sorry I may have understated the distances, The kind of space they leave is more then enough for someone to safely merge in front of them.

The techniques vary but the worse ones are when while moving, they keep a similiar distance as to when they are stopped, in the end meaning that they stop pretty abruptly. I hope that clarifies what I'm talking about. Of course I can just give them space but in gridlocked traffic thats less of an option and it just gets to me.
 

fleshconsumed

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Well, if the op is talking about what I think he is talking, then I understand him. There was one time when I was returning from Indiana Dunes and obviously the traffic was stop and go. As a good driver I would always look several cars in front of me, so that if the cars ahead start breaking, I would slow down beforehand, and most of the traffic was like this, accelerating and slowing down smoothly, no one makes sudden movements, just slowly creeping at 5-15 miles ah hour forward. But this one guy immideately in front of me (silver shevy Impala) was a complete asshole, he would unexpectedly slam on the brakes when there were 30-40 feet to the next car, I kid you not, when he would slam on brakes often 3 or 4 cars could fit in a gap between him and the next car. It was extremely annoying and dangerous, because I don't expect someone to just stop when the next car is 50 feet away. Anyway, after I had to slam on brakes several times because he'd just stop with empty road before him, I passed him on emergency lane on the left, I figured I was safer before him than behind him. And what do you know, I was safer before him, but 5 minutes after I passed the him, the guy who took my space behind him honked him all over.... rofl, at least I wasn't alone who was annoyed by his erratic stops.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
As a good driver I would always look several cars in front of me, so that if the cars ahead start breaking, I would slow down beforehand,

That's a good practice, since you don't want to crash into a line of broken-down cars.:p

I sorta understand what the OP might be getting at, I just haven't seen too many people drive the way he describes. And since I'm not there, I don't know if his "huge freakin' gap!" between cars is, in fact, huge.
 

EGGO

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I'm sorry, is that taking what precious milliseconds you would've saved up just standing there in bumper to bumper traffic? I saw a car ahead of me bump into the other car because he did what you want. Luckily, it was just a bump. 6-10 feet is good, trust me. A car can't safely merge in those distances, even in bumper to bumper, he'd just turn right in front of him but would have no room to get his car in and would have to wait.
 

fishface313

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I dunno if you people saying "leave a space" or "don't tailgate" or "leave xx amount of feet for safe driving" have ever been to a big city(with lots of traffic) or not, but leaving a space in rush hour traffic bigger than 1/2 a car length leads to people cutting other people off and causing more of a problem.

On another note here is my theory:
Left lane is for passing, middle lane is for people doing 5-10 over the speed limit, right lane is for people doing the speed limit. Anyone that is driving under the speed limit needs to stay the fvck off of the roads.