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Leaked picture of an actual iphone 5 (next to an iphone 4)

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jpeyton said:
The aspect ratio looks oddball. Apple has been so consistent on resolution and aspect ratio up to this point.
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well, not exactly, take the iPods. Serious divergence with iPod nano, shuffles, minis, and main iPods. All different form factors.
Axon said:
It does look strange, assuming that pic is legit (and I will assume it is).
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In my experience new form factors always look hideous. I was used to the 3GS form factor having seen it everywhere, then got an OGDroid in spite of thinking the device totally broke the golden ratio. I got used to it and ended up loving the form factor.

Felt same about my Atrix4G. Now I don't love the form factor, but I don't think it's hideous any more.
I thought the Iphone4/S form factor was hideous at first. Too tall, not wide enough. Got used to it now it looks great.

Same will happen to us with this phone.
 
Binky said:
You're making untrue claims and you want me to prove it for you? I think I'll pass.
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Errr what? I'm asking a legitimate question here. You misunderstood my original comment, that's not my fault.
 
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MrX8503 said:
What does an app that's 800x480 look like on a 720p Android phone?
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I don't have a 720p phone but on my 1024x600 Nook Color running Gingerbread nearly all apps worked fine and that was the better part of a year ago before there were many HD phones out there so thing have only gotten better.

Apps that are 800x480 are complete garbage and very uncommon at this point, the only one that I can think of off the top of my head is Steam.

You're asking a loaded question by picking 800x480 apps which by definition are poorly made and the worst case scenario for Android scaling.
 
MrX8503 said:
In other words, iOS isn't bad at scaling any more than Android is.
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I don't get how you possibly got that from my post. 99% of Android apps scale perfectly fine and for the 1% that doesn't they still scale better than iOS apps do.

You should really avoid trying to make a point about how Android apps work when it sounds like you have never even used Android.
 
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MrX8503 said:
What does an app that's 800x480 look like on a 720p Android phone?
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You're stuck thinking about apps in the Apple paradigm (fixed resolutions). Android apps are supposed to scale to any resolution - one app for every phone and tablet. That's how Google explicitly stated it recently at the Jellybean conference. Plus, 720p is the sort of "unofficial official resolution" for Android phones anyway, and has been since the Android 4.0/Galaxy Nexus launch last fall.
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As for the iPhone 5 - I agree that the phone does look weird because it's so tall and an unfamiliar size. However, I can almost guarantee that once people have used it, they won't want to go back. The added height is very useful for reading webpages, news, and just about anything on the phone. The added height means that on screen buttons will take up a smaller chunk of screen real-estate. It will vastly improve the experience of watching HD video and youtube content. Games will look better with a bigger, wider screen.

It's a change (which people hate), but I bet it will be quickly adopted by the masses. Pretty soon Apple users will be trumpeting the virtues of a widescreen phone experience, and just how much better it is than before. Welcome to the 2010's, Apple!
 
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MrX8503 said:
In other words, iOS isn't bad at scaling any more than Android is.
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I think you talked yourself into that conclusion without the benefit of evidence or original thought.


jiffylube1024 said:
As for the iPhone 5 - I agree that the phone does look weird because it's so tall but I can almost guarantee that once people have used it, they won't want to go back. The added height is very useful for reading.
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I'm thinking the same thing. It looks odd, but it might work pretty well. I still miss my old Droid Incredible with the 3.7 inch screen. The monster phones out now feel just a bit too wide to me. I still use one (GN, same as you apparently), and I have large hands, but it just feels clunky(er). It also feels like I'm holding a small book to my face when talking on the phone.
 
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since android 4.0 if an app is not compatible to your phone it wont even show up in the market.

when you search an app now the api looks at your cell and will only show apps made for your cell.

The problem is with people running jellybean and most apps dont show up or even run because the app looks for an os version and yours is newer so its not working right etc.

like I cant get hbo go on gs3 because its not running stock os and dosnt even show up in the market.

edit looks like hbo got updated but you get my point

android fragmented apps have come a long way and now google is telling the devs to make a minimum system and setting a guidline for what cells will get what app.

like now when I search I get netflix HD instead of the regular app an older phone would search up
 
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Puddle Jumper said:
I don't get how you possibly got that from my post. 99% of Android apps scale perfectly fine and for the 1% that doesn't they still scale better than iOS apps do.

You should really avoid trying to make a point about how Android apps work when it sounds like you have never even used Android.
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I remember android users complaining that apps don't fit right on a 720p screen.

iOS does double scaling, which is better and cleaner than scaling 800x480 to 720p
 
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MrX8503 said:
I remember android users complaining that apps don't fit right on a 720p screen.

iOS does double scaling, which is better and cleaner than scaling 800x480 to 720p
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What makes you think Android apps are native 800x480? This isn't iOS, apps aren't developed for a single resolution and then simply zoomed to fit other sizes.

You have made up some bizarre concept of how Android apps work and are bashing them for it even though it has no basis in reality.
 
MrX8503 said:
I remember android users complaining that apps don't fit right on a 720p screen.

iOS does double scaling, which is better and cleaner than scaling 800x480 to 720p
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You didn't read my post. Android apps, by and large, are NOT scaling from 800x480 to 720p! You're stuck in the Apple paradigm! Get out of the box!!!

There's no default resolution that apps scale up and down from, that's an Apple thing!

From my understanding of the Android OS, resolution is dynamically set by the app based on the device resolution. Every app is run at "native" resolution, the tradeoff is the slight performance hitch of using more variables to set resolutions rather than using fixed integer values (ie 320x480 and that doubled).

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About Android apps not fitting right on a 720p screen -- that may have been true in December of 2011 but it's not true now. Pretty much every popular app has probably had 3-5 patches between then and now. I can't think of a single app, out of the ~50 or so that I routinely use, that don't fit my 720p Galaxy Nexus properly.
 
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I don't think 800x480 is native. Just that at one point that it was an issue and is a bigger issue than what you're comparing about a taller iPhone with its scaling.

iOS apps only double if it's not native. On android if it's not native it does some weird scaling.

Overall what I'm saying is that Android's scaling isn't something special nor is advantageous over what Apple is doing. Simmer down.

It's not an issue now for both platforms and if it was ever an issue Androids method was shoddy.
 
MrX8503 said:
Overall what I'm saying is that Android's scaling isn't something special nor is advantageous over what Apple is doing. Simmer down.
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Android apps are resolution independent, iOS apps are not. If you don't think that is an advantage for Android you are insane.

You are in no position to say anything about how stuff works on Android since it is abundantly clear you have no experience with it.
 
And you have tons of experience with iOS? I asked a legit question and you go freaking out.

The speculated method of how a taller iPhone will handle scaling is better than what Android did for low res apps on 720p phones.
 
I think Android app scaling is akin to Windows, applications scale dynamically and don't have some "fixed" resolution.
 
shortylickens said:
Yeah umm this is like, a thread about iPhones, so like, what the hell?
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Well, the new iPhone has a new resolution so the comparison isn't completely crazy. Not surprisingly, this discussion went a bit off track. Android has dealt with differing resolutions for a while now. Apple is going to have to deal with it too.
 
MrX8503 said:
And you have tons of experience with iOS? I asked a legit question and you go freaking out.

The speculated method of how a taller iPhone will handle scaling is better than what Android did for low res apps on 720p phones.
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I don't have tons of iOS experience however I have used an iPad 2 for a while and have done iOS development before.

What are some of these low resolution Android apps and where would I find them. I have never see them.
 
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