Leaked Intel RoadMap Desktop Platform

[tweakboy]

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTMwMjY1NDkzNDk5blVpdXYyTDlfMV8xX2wuZ2lm

 

[RobertPters77]

Damnit! I want Sandy Bridge EP asap!

 

[formulav8]

if true, then people can finally stop saying ib will be out q4 of this year.

 

[greenhawk]

if true, then people can finally stop saying ib will be out q4 of this year.

no surpise on the IB release date going by what I have been reading.

The only thing I am unhappy about is knowing which SB-E is which on that graph. The -EN and -EP are different enough to matter.

The -EN is expected at the lower end (being triple channel) but at what point do they cross over in the middle. It is all I currently care about from these road maps. (ie: if EN is $300 and the EP is $1000, I might have to rethink which one I can afford).

The link also has mention of a link to a 1156 and 775 socket road map, might have to go and have a look at them.

 

[frostedflakes]

Well EP is server only, right? So it has to be EN.

Anyway, those 8C/16T chips are going to be beasts.

 

[Edrick]

The -EN is expected at the lower end (being triple channel) but at what point do they cross over in the middle. It is all I currently care about from these road maps. (ie: if EN is $300 and the EP is $1000, I might have to rethink which one I can afford).

Where did you see information on any on the LGA2011 sockets being triple channel? Last I heard anything about triple channel was when rumors of socket LGA1365 were floating around.

The link also has mention of a link to a 1156 and 775 socket road map, might have to go and have a look at them.

Seeing those links on the chart really made me wonder how legit this chart actually is. Why no 1155?

 

[tweakboy]

no surpise on the IB release date going by what I have been reading.

The only thing I am unhappy about is knowing which SB-E is which on that graph. The -EN and -EP are different enough to matter.

The -EN is expected at the lower end (being triple channel) but at what point do they cross over in the middle. It is all I currently care about from these road maps. (ie: if EN is $300 and the EP is $1000, I might have to rethink which one I can afford).

The link also has mention of a link to a 1156 and 775 socket road map, might have to go and have a look at them.

Good info my friend greenhawk,, Also post your Rig signature you dont have one wtf,, thx

 

[Soleron]

Sad to see it still only goes up to six cores on the desktop.

Pricing is better than expected.

 

[exar333]

Where did you see information on any on the LGA2011 sockets being triple channel? Last I heard anything about triple channel was when rumors of socket LGA1365 were floating around.



Seeing those links on the chart really made me wonder how legit this chart actually is. Why no 1155?

LGA2011 is quad-channel from everything I have seen. This should be very nice because 4 DIMM slots will be sufficient for many uses, and 8 could be on larger ATX-entended boards. 4x4GB is what I will be setting-up...

Does anyone know if IB will be compatible? I hope so with it being so close around the corner following LGA2011...if not, that may change my decision.

 

[Edrick]

Does anyone know if IB will be compatible? I hope so with it being so close around the corner following LGA2011...if not, that may change my decision.

I am almost certain IB chips will be available for s2011. No reason why they wouldn't. But these chips will be released after the IB chips for lga1155 are released (Q3 2012 would be my best guess).

So if you really want IB from day 1, you will be looking at lga1155.

 

[Soleron]

LGA2011 is quad-channel from everything I have seen. This should be very nice because 4 DIMM slots will be sufficient for many uses, and 8 could be on larger ATX-entended boards. 4x4GB is what I will be setting-up...

Does anyone know if IB will be compatible? I hope so with it being so close around the corner following LGA2011...if not, that may change my decision.

The initial Ivy Bridges will not be in the same segment; they will either be LGA1155 compatible or a 1155 successor. They won't launch the high-end IB until 2H 2012, by which time Haswell will be about available, and so on.

 

[greenhawk]

Where did you see information on any on the LGA2011 sockets being triple channel? Last I heard anything about triple channel was when rumors of socket LGA1365 were floating around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge#32_nm_Sandy_Bridge

(overview, server and desktop tables)


Basically, the Sandybridge-E for high end home is the EN (as mentioned in the overview table).

The EN has the release in Q4 and the server version at this time is socket B2 (1356, triple channel only).

Looking at the desktop table, the high end is under the standard i7 heading. Given the different interface speeds, I would not be suprised if the standard i7 was the EN and the extream the EP.

The quad channel (EP) is Q1 next year, 2011 socket for the server as well. So if that holds, then the Extream processors will be released in Q1 next year, not in the Q4 of this year.

If this is the case (ie: inital 2011 non-server chips are re-packaged 1356 CPU's), then the give away will be what motherboards will be offered at SB-E release. a triple channel board, or a quad channel where one of the channels will be "disabled" without a extream processor.

edit: re-reading it does not appear I am as clear in writing as I am in my head. I just see the information on offer, add in how the market with the 1155 was separated for marketing reasons, and can only see that the SB-E will suffer in the same way.

 

[Edrick]

Don't believe everything you read on wikipedia. I checked the reference for that information you pointed out and I personally do not find it reliable. A lot of info on wikipedia (for unreleased products) is rumor based at best. and sometimes very old rumors. Just take a look at the Haswell entry on wiki for example, it is almost all speculation.

And even if that infor is true, it says the triple channel will be on the server line only. The high end desktop will be all quad channel. But there are multiple tables on there that contradict each other. I just wonder why Intel is keeping a tight lid on these cpus.

 

[theAnimal]

Also post your Rig signature you dont have one wtf,, thx

Nothing wrong with that; it balances out the monstrosity that is your sig.

 

[mv2devnull]

Nothing wrong with that; it balances out the monstrosity that is your sig.

+1

Is there even any "show sig in this post" option? Oh well, Ignore list will do.


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[PlasmaBomb]

Good info my friend greenhawk,, Also post your Rig signature you dont have one wtf,, thx

He doesn't have to... no one really likes one line of response to a dozen lines of sig...

 

[PlasmaBomb]

+1

Is there even any "show sig in this post" option? Oh well, Ignore list will do.


Back in time, Sun Tzu did describe types of spies known in his era. One of them is a cannon fodder that is supposed to get caught and reveal "crucial info" to the enemy. "Leaks" can be that: intentional misinformation. Or they are misinformation conjured up by a third party, like us. Or they are genuine data, but no longer relevant.

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PB

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

this is ridiculous. ivy bridge is already coming so soon? odd because it's like Nehalem lasted a while. Granted it was the high end and got a head start. 1156 didn't last long in retrospect.... but at least it felt like the whole generation hung around for a while.

But whats interesting is Sandy Bridge-E hangs around while mainstream goes Ivy Bridge? Is this like how X58 is still alive while 1155 is whooping it? Not cool. It's like why the hell would I wait til Q4 11 to invest in Sandy Bridge-E only to get raped by mid range 3 months down the road?

 

[Idontcare]

this is ridiculous. ivy bridge is already coming so soon? odd because it's like Nehalem lasted a while. Granted it was the high end and got a head start. 1156 didn't last long in retrospect.... but at least it felt like the whole generation hung around for a while.

But whats interesting is Sandy Bridge-E hangs around while mainstream goes Ivy Bridge? Is this like how X58 is still alive while 1155 is whooping it? Not cool. It's like why the hell would I wait til Q4 11 to invest in Sandy Bridge-E only to get raped by mid range 3 months down the road?

Yeah you are definitely no longer getting those nice clean breaks and transitions between the hottest leading edge architecture because they have stratified the top-end by platform and don't refresh it on the same timeline as they do the mainstream.

They use to just do this to their server segments versus desktop segment, but now they've brought this lag into the desktop segment as well.

It really strikes me as odd that here you've got this nice 2600K SB and they go an release a 990X last-gen architecture chip for their halo product.

The Intel of today is beginning to remind me more and more of the Intel of 2002 when they let marketing start making the engineering decisions and they ended up with Rambus and the P4. Somebody at the top thinks pursuing this "give your top-dollar enthusiasts the least sexy architecture stuff" strategy combined with "let them eat lightpeak" versus USB3 attitude and I'm just getting dejavu here.

Could be an opportunity for AMD, just like it was last time around.

 

[PreferLinux]

Yeah you are definitely no longer getting those nice clean breaks and transitions between the hottest leading edge architecture because they have stratified the top-end by platform and don't refresh it on the same timeline as they do the mainstream.

They use to just do this to their server segments versus desktop segment, but now they've brought this lag into the desktop segment as well.

It really strikes me as odd that here you've got this nice 2600K SB and they go an release a 990X last-gen architecture chip for their halo product.

The Intel of today is beginning to remind me more and more of the Intel of 2002 when they let marketing start making the engineering decisions and they ended up with Rambus and the P4. Somebody at the top thinks pursuing this "give your top-dollar enthusiasts the least sexy architecture stuff" strategy combined with "let them eat lightpeak" versus USB3 attitude and I'm just getting dejavu here.

Could be an opportunity for AMD, just like it was last time around.

The reason is probably that the top end desktop is basically low end server without server features and higher clocks.

 

[IntelUser2000]

this is ridiculous. ivy bridge is already coming so soon? odd because it's like Nehalem lasted a while. Granted it was the high end and got a head start. 1156 didn't last long in retrospect.... but at least it felt like the whole generation hung around for a while.

But whats interesting is Sandy Bridge-E hangs around while mainstream goes Ivy Bridge? Is this like how X58 is still alive while 1155 is whooping it? Not cool. It's like why the hell would I wait til Q4 11 to invest in Sandy Bridge-E only to get raped by mid range 3 months down the road?

You probably know it, but its not gonna work like that. Ivy Bridge doesn't bring much in terms of architectural changes(expected of a Tick), and 6 cores for S1155 even for Ivy Bridge seems to be ways off so at worst the lowest Socket 2011 chips will equal fastest Ivy Bridge Socket 1155 parts.

 

[greenhawk]

He doesn't have to... no one really likes one line of response to a dozen lines of sig...

Sigs to me are for saying who you are.

Me putting in my old q6600@stock system would feel like boasting about getting a lancer to someone with a musle car.

I feel too old to play the "mine is better" game, espically when it is all stock parts.

I'm more of the quiet get it done person and my system reflects that.

 

[greenhawk]

why the hell would I wait til Q4 11 to invest in Sandy Bridge-E only to get raped by mid range 3 months down the road?

Agreed, that is why I want to see pre-production IB numbers vs release SB-E (and which SB-E is in the budget) before punching in any credit card numbers.

AMD had better have some pre-production numbers out at that time as well or they will be off the potential shoping list for sure. (waiting for them is pointless, best just to buy what is on the shop shelves as their release dates slip as badly as Valve's do).

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Sigs to me are for saying who you are.

Me putting in my old q6600@stock system would feel like boasting about getting a lancer to someone with a musle car.

I feel too old to play the "mine is better" game, espically when it is all stock parts.

I'm more of the quiet get it done person and my system reflects that.

Well if your system does everything you need it to...

Money doesn't grow on trees and very few people are lucky enough to get given CPUs.

Welcome to Anandtech forums. Hope you have fun... and maybe learn something along the way.

PB

 

[AtenRa]

I don't believe socket 1155 will get more than 4 cores even with IvyBridge.

So perhaps socket 2011 will get you a nice SB 32nm 6 core at $300 (ala Core i7 920) and you could later upgrade to a 6-8 core 22nm IvyBridge.