leaked Forceware 87.08

[Gstanfor]

I have not used 87.25 yet, but if that somehow works better for people, then by all means use it. I've heard good reports on IQ and performance for that driver also. Seems to be a trend for the 87.xx series photos so far - of course certain people will maintain its just people seeing what they want to see...

I've not had the 87.08 driver cause trouble on any of the systems I've installed it on (well over 50 pc's of all descriptions and specifications so far). I still say PEBKAC is the main reason people run into difficulties.

 

[Gstanfor]

XTreme-G Tweakerizer for 87.25

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Saying I never owned a 7800GT SLI setup does not make me a liar. Why? Because I never did.

So are you never going to post some pics or tell us what the IQ increase is, where it is, and what games its in? As well as the performance increase? I dont doubt a perf increase, thats pretty common in drivers. I do doubt a IQ increase however.

Gstanfor is going over the top here, and should have expected to draw ridicule from BFG by the comment in the very first post in parenthesis, but you chose to perpetuate confusion by not just correcting him telling him you owned SLI'd 7800GTX's. And you no doubt realized this as you typed "Find one single post where I said I had a 7800GT SLI setup. I never even had a single 7800GT card."

You did not lie, but could have simply said, "I own/owned 7800GTX's.". You chose chaos. Why dude?

 

[Gstanfor]

I've just finishe dhaving a bit of a play around with the 87.25's and they are a very very nice set (not implying 87.08 are not here either for those who'd love to make it seem as though I was). IQ is about the same as 87.08, performance is even better, and the drivers are buttery smooth, something I really appreciate in a graphics driver.

I took some more IQ shots, not of 3dmark this time, but something tells me ackmed still won't be happy with my choice (Like I could care less)

Dusk 1
Dusk 2
Dusk 3
Dusk 4
Dusk 5
Nalu 1
Nalu 2
MadModMike 1
MadModMike 2
MadModMike 3
MadModMike 4

 

[BFG10K]

No, I meant comment on the bit where the system was unstable with anything other than 6.2

Nobody claimed ATi's drivers were perfect. The claim I made (and many might well agree with me) is that ATi's drivers are generally more stable and compatible than nVidia's.

Likewise ATi's monthly official WHQL drivers offer far better driver support to the end user than nVidia's beta scraps that you have to pick up from back alleys and hope you don't catch something in the process.

That's two unstable drivers this user has had to endure so far (maybe 3 if 6.5 dosen't help him).

Two drivers with ATi is 2 months. Now imagine if two drivers on nVidia had the same problem - he would be afflicted by 8 months, if not more. Unless he takes his chances with beta scraps.

You can't ignore this issue -

Nobody's ignoring it, you're simply generating strawman arguments just to start a fight, Seriously, just what the hell is your point?

you're the one who dragged SLI issues into this thread in the first place (my original post referenced SMP support)...

Ahahahaha, that's rich. So in your first post about beta drivers you single me out and then turn around and claim I dragged the issues into the thread?

Maybe you should go and eat your cookie and lie down on your mat - it sounds like you've missed your nap time.

I fail to see how I have trolled *anything* in this thread.

:roll:

In past discussions BFG10K has put nVIDIA drivers down over various issues including SMP multi-processor support.

Correct - not to mention providing evidence from nVidia's own driver documentation that confirm my claims.

Or what? Are you still trying to deny the issues exist becaues you use a prehistoric CPU that uses punch cards to calculate data?

This driver addresses the issue through the threading optimizations option in the advanced panel.

It doesn't address the issue, it allows you to disable the optimizations more easily. Your comment is disingenuous and you know it.

As for you differentiating between 7800 Gt/GTX I think you are coming down with BFG10K's anal nitpick disease

No he isn't. He has a Crossfire setup now and no longer has an nVidia setup which is why he can't test the beta drivers.

Is that simple enough for you or would you like me to draw a picture?

BFG10K will be ecstatic do discover that 87.25 has been leaked (the same version as his x-bit writeup).

Why would I be ecstatic? You're the one pimping these cheap drivers at every opportunity, not me.

 

[Gstanfor]

quote:
BFG10K will be ecstatic do discover that 87.25 has been leaked (the same version as his x-bit writeup).


Why would I be ecstatic? You're the one pimping these cheap drivers at every opportunity, not me.

BFG10K, why don't you post some matching IQ screenshots from your beloved official drivers, and we'll see just how cheap the beta drivers really are...

quote:
As for you differentiating between 7800 Gt/GTX I think you are coming down with BFG10K's anal nitpick disease


No he isn't. He has a Crossfire setup now and no longer has an nVidia setup which is why he can't test the beta drivers.

Is that simple enough for you or would you like me to draw a picture?

I'm glad you can admint you suffer from anal nitpick disease...

quote:
This driver addresses the issue through the threading optimizations option in the advanced panel.


It doesn't address the issue, it allows you to disable the optimizations more easily. Your comment is disingenuous and you know it.

It povides a remedy for the issue, whether you like it or not.

 

[BFG10K]

BFG10K, why don't you post some matching IQ screenshots from your beloved official drivers, and we'll see just how cheap the beta drivers really are...

How does posting 3DMark screenshot prove beta drivers are better than official drivers?

Furthermore if the drivers are so good then we should expect nVidia to release them as official drivers, right? So why then have they been released as a back-alley beta?

I'm glad you can admint you suffer from anal nitpick disease...

So let me get this straight:

Ackmed asked you to demonstrate your better IQ claims.

You then responded that he should test the drivers himself and you also claimed he had a 7800GT.

When it was demonstrated he has had 7800GTX SLI in the past but doesn't have any nVidia cards now (and hence can't test the drivers) you class that as an anal nitpick?

Honestly, I am lost for words.

It povides a remedy for the issue, whether you like it or not.

I'm quite glad it provides an easier way to disable the optimizations actually. My problem is that you seem to be pretending that the driver has somehow fixed the problems with the optimizations when all it's done is provided an easier way to disable them.

 

[Gstanfor]

quote:
BFG10K, why don't you post some matching IQ screenshots from your beloved official drivers, and we'll see just how cheap the beta drivers really are...


How does posting 3DMark screenshot prove beta drivers are better than official drivers?

Because (as I've explained before in this thread), anybody with 3dmark can perform the 3dmark IQ tests, and all the images can be compared against the DX9 refrast.

The FanATIcs can't possibly object to comparison with refrast given their arguments during the R300 era...

For those that don't know, the DX9 SDK has a software renderer (refrast) built in to it and, as the name suggests it provides a baseline reference for IQ in D3D9 applications.

 

[BFG10K]

3DMark IQ means precisely nothing to IQ in other games.

 

[Gstanfor]

But their IQ tests allow you compare IQ... and that's what Ackmed wanted...

 

[BFG10K]

Ackmed asked you to back your claims and you haven't done that at all, you've simply posted your usual claptrap and clouded the issue.

 

[Gstanfor]

I posted pictures of the drivers IQ from an application specifically designed fro the task! How is that "not backing my claims"?