Leaked ATI S.I. 6870 benchmark

[MrK6]

Your signature link is broken, kinda like your comparisons.

gtx460 ($190 AR) vs. hd5850 ($260)

and

gtx470 ($280 AR) vs. hd5870 ($355)

I'd hope that more expensive cards would outperform less expensive ones - which may or may not make them "better" buys. BTW, those are all the cheapest current prices on Newegg.

EDIT: Thanks happy, fixed the prices. The 5850 is 37% more expensive than the gtx460 and the hd5870 is 27% more expensive.

there is a Palit gtx460 for $190 AR also.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-075-_-Product

it's nice to see ATI prices dropping though, finally. If the 5850 reaches 220$ I'm in for 1.

What does any of this have to do with the leaked 6870 benchmarks? The PM function is there for a reason.

 

[Skurge]

What does any of this have to do with the leaked 6870 benchmarks? The PM function is there for a reason.

Typical don't you think?

 

[badb0y]

What does any of this have to do with the leaked 6870 benchmarks? The PM function is there for a reason.

Damage Control

 

[edplayer]

maybe you should fix the GTX 470 also, to $250:

http://www.frys.com/product/6364811?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

 

[Skurge]

Its not even in stock.

 

[Grooveriding]

Looks like ATI already has working 6870s cards ready from those chiphell pictures.

May be sooner than we think.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2103485

 

[bryanW1995]

Your signature link is broken, kinda like your comparisons.

gtx460 ($190 AR) vs. hd5850 ($260)

and

gtx470 ($280 AR) vs. hd5870 ($355)

I'd hope that more expensive cards would outperform less expensive ones - which may or may not make them "better" buys. BTW, those are all the cheapest current prices on Newegg.

EDIT: Thanks happy, fixed the prices. The 5850 is 37% more expensive than the gtx460 and the hd5870 is 27% more expensive.

nope, now 5850 is $239 AR. SOMETHING must be coming soon because prices from both camps are dropping faster than a stri...(edited to save idc some ink)... you get the idea.

AMD can more easily afford a price war from a p/l perspective, but nvidia has a lot more cash and could just use some of their marketing budget to subsidize lower and lower prices until amd finally calls "uncle".

happy, you better be careful or you'll be stuck with amd for another round!

 

[tweakboy]

So is this card faster then the 5970 ?

 

[maddie]

nope, now 5850 is $239 AR. SOMETHING must be coming soon because prices from both camps are dropping faster than a stri...(edited to save idc some ink)... you get the idea.

AMD can more easily afford a price war from a p/l perspective, but nvidia has a lot more cash and could just use some of their marketing budget to subsidize lower and lower prices until amd finally calls "uncle".

happy, you better be careful or you'll be stuck with amd for another round!

Do you really see Nvidia selling cards at a loss, seeing that their break-even point is higher than Amd. Amd probably can have Nvidia's present profit margins or better even at Nvidia's break-even price point.

 

[happy medium]

happy, you better be careful or you'll be stuck with amd for another round!
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If the price is right and drivers are good ,I'm in green or red .

 

[Will Robinson]

If the price is right and drivers are good ,I'm in green or red .

In that case I hope NVDA release a very cheap card with great drivers pronto.:twisted:
The red team will happily wave as we go by.

 

[*kjm]

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[Sind]

Nevermind sigh...
http://www.hardfolding.com/fh_stats/?pz=102&tnum=33&id=596102

 

[Grooveriding]

So is this card faster then the 5970 ?

There are some more leaks of a roadmap

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-121067-1-1.html

If accurate, looks like the 6990 will be the new performance crown holding card to follow up the 5970's current position there.

Don't expect the single-gpu 6870/6970? to be faster than a 5970. Maybe somewhere from 140-180% the performance of one.

 

[bryanW1995]

again, keep in mind that 5870 was still 10% slower than 4870x2, and that was with the minor step/half step improvement of 4890 mixed in and on an alleged "new" process. if 6870 gets within 10% of 5970 then that would still be a huge improvement over current gpus.

 

[Grooveriding]

again, keep in mind that 5870 was still 10% slower than 4870x2, and that was with the minor step/half step improvement of 4890 mixed in and on an alleged "new" process. if 6870 gets within 10% of 5970 then that would still be a huge improvement over current gpus.

Within 10% of 5970 would be amazing for a single GPU.

I'd welcome it but not hold my breath for that much performance

I'll be happy with the predicted 130-140% of a GTX 480. Anything more is just gravy.

 

[Dark Shroud]

It's going to be hard not dropping cash on a HD 6770 while waiting for an HD 6870.

New rig here I come.

 

[SlowSpyder]

It's going to be hard not dropping cash on a HD 6770 while waiting for an HD 6870.

New rig here I come.

For me the biggest decision would be my CPU. I am pretty much the opposite of toyota, I believe GPU >>>>> CPU for gaming. But with that said, I've had the same motherboard since the Radeon 2900XT days and the same CPU since I got a 4870. Now I am using this combo with my 5870. If I got a 68xx, would my CPU still be up to task? I imagine it has to start limiting me sooner or later. A new card I can swing, a new mobo/DDR3/CPU/card, the wife won't go for. :/

It seems like AMD's GPU division is pulling ahead of the CPU division by a good amount.

Anyway, these are the dilemmas that new video cards bring.

 

[extra]

I just want to point out that while Nvidia selling cards at a loss might be true, we really don't know. We have guesses by Charlie, etc. But I wouldn't consider Charlie an unbiased source (I do like his site and articles, but one must take into account that he likes AMD and Intel and dislikes Nvidia--least he's honest about it).

We don't really have any evidence that Nvidia cards are selling at a loss. For all we know they are just selling their cards for less profit than AMD, or their partners are making less profit than AMD's partners. We just aren't privy to that info. So many factors that we just don't know. However, Nvidia's financial situation isn't that bad. Yeah, their stock price, I know. But they aren't in ANY danger of going under.

As enthusiasts, we need both nvidia and AMD (and Intel) to do well.

 

[Dark Shroud]

For me the biggest decision would be my CPU. I am pretty much the opposite of toyota, I believe GPU >>>>> CPU for gaming. But with that said, I've had the same motherboard since the Radeon 2900XT days and the same CPU since I got a 4870. Now I am using this combo with my 5870. If I got a 68xx, would my CPU still be up to task? I imagine it has to start limiting me sooner or later. A new card I can swing, a new mobo/DDR3/CPU/card, the wife won't go for. :/

It seems like AMD's GPU division is pulling ahead of the CPU division by a good amount.

Anyway, these are the dilemmas that new video cards bring.

Yeah my current rig is such garbage that I can't play anything modern. I have an HD 4670 1GB card in my system and even upgrading to an HD 5770 would be a waste because of my P4. The mobo's bios are OEM locked to the CPU it came with. Meanwhile my friends who are still rocking LGA 775 are running C2Q Q*** OC'd to nice performance despite the age of the systems.

Twice now I've had my "new PC" fund have to go for car trouble. I'm finally going to build a new PC by Christmas. I should be able to push a Core i7 for a few years.

AMD owns the DX11 market and has around 50% of the over all video market. I was surprised to see on the latest Steam survey that almost 28% of Steam users are sporting AMD CPUs.

I just hope AMD keeps up with these yearly series releases, even if its just a refresh that gives moderate improvements.

 

[RussianSensation]

. I am pretty much the opposite of toyota, I believe GPU >>>>> CPU for gaming.

Toyota has never outright claimed that CPU is more important than GPU for gaming per say. Instead, he simply recommends a balanced setup. For example, a GTX470/480/5870 is overkill for a stock Q6600, just like a 5850 is going to be massively held back by an E6400 at stock speeds. Similarly, toyota would not recommend someone get a Core i7 980X with a GTX260 over a Core i5 750 + 5970.

Since you have a Phenom II @ 3.4ghz, it will be sufficient for another high end card, if not more. You won't get good as good of frames in some games (GTAIV, Mafia 2, SC2, etc.) compared to i7s, but the videocard upgrade will bring a lot more performance improvement than a CPU upgrade.

 

[edplayer]

Its not even in stock.

It is in stock at 8 of the 9 Fry's locations near me

 

[edplayer]

There are some more leaks of a roadmap

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-121067-1-1.html

I just see puppies

 

[Dark Shroud]

There are some more leaks of a roadmap

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-121067-1-1.html

If accurate, looks like the 6990 will be the new performance crown holding card to follow up the 5970's current position there.

Don't expect the single-gpu 6870/6970? to be faster than a 5970. Maybe somewhere from 140-180% the performance of one.

From the article after translation.

Antilles 6990
Cayman XT 6970
Cayman PRO 6950
Barts XT 6870
Barts PRO 6850
Juniper XT 6770
Juniper LE 6750
Turks 66xx / 65xx
Caicos 63xx

 

[AdamK47]

Doesn't look like a roadmap.