leagl killing (ain't it fun)

[calibur]

yeah its relevant to your last post..

but anyways, whats so wrong with killing a stupid dear thats more likely to get itself killed (and possibly a few people) if it strays into a moving car. around here, last year, a mans wife was killed because she hit a deer. he then sued the county for not controlling the population.

 

[ToBeMe]

Maybe you guys have a better idea of how to control Deer herds then???? How about when there are 150+ Deer on a field destroying 15 acres of crops weekly????? You do the math........how long would you allow someone to access your bank account and withdrawl money everyday?????

Another point, vehicular accidents........last year there were 6000 reported collisions with Deer in the state of Missouri.......and that's after taking 220,000+ Deer by combined methods of harvesting them (Firearms, Archery, Muzzleloader, Crossbow) not to mention the poaching which occurs......how would you feel about much higher insurance rates because of frequent accidents involving Deer?????

Also, for the past 3 years the areas of St. Louis and Kansas City have opened parks and wooded areas to limited hunts because of severe overpopulation and damage done to parks and homeowners property.

Finally, since you mention how cruel it is to harvest these animals, how do you feel about seeing thousands die each year due to malnutrition, disease, and the aformentioned vehicular accidents????? Those animals will die and provide nothing.......many hunters also participate in the "Share The Harvest" program where they actually pay to have the Deer proccessed but the meat goes to needy families and shelters...............

You may see hunting them as "cruel" or "unsportsman like" but, in reallity, if the Deer is used for the meat it provides, it is in no way different than harvesting cattle or hogs and much less expensive not to mention it is very healthy eating compared to other meats!

 

[Random Variable]

<< so you think men hunt just "To make you a man" well in some ways that is true when you take your son out hunting and he shots his first deer he does not change in any way or do any thing diffrent but that is some thing that will leave a life long memory in his mind forever of what he and his dad did together and after all all we really are is memorys once we are gone and some of us do it just to make the pocket book loosen up a little before christmas do you have any idea just how much meat just one deer puts in your freezer and if you are lucky enough to get a bonus tag and get 2 deer you can even give some away to a friend and honestly I can not think of any one that does not know some one that they care about and would love to do something nice for like feed them for a while but I guess if you do not know you will never understand sorry for stiring up so much trouble... >>


ummm...was there a period in there?

 

[calibur]

well said ToBeMe

 

[yokomo]

That is why I put so many at the end. Because it was just a big runon phrase. SEE DA BIG DUMMY IS REALLY A DUMMY (HA HA HA) I guess you got me, I'm stupid what the heck are you trying to say.

check this out what is your first general order?...funny guy..

 

Hating hunting and eating meat... at least the wild animal has a chance.

 

[Random Variable]

<< That is why I put so many at the end. Because it was just a big runon phrase. SEE DA BIG DUMMY IS REALLY A DUMMY (HA HA HA) I guess you got me, I'm stupid what the heck are you trying to say. >>


I wasn't attacking you. Geez! Calm down. :frown:

 

[jthsmak]

<< how did you all get so cityfied.... hunting is one of our last free rights as americans... even if you do not do it that does not make it wrong... I would rather see a gut pile laying in the woods then see two men kissing on the bus stop but I am forced to see that and it is supposed to be thier right but you defile hunting that puts food on the table so kids do not go hungry ...I really do not understand what is happening to america............. honestly just my thoughts.. >>



Did anyone mention homosexuality? You have....issues.

 

[Cyberian]

<< Again, this has .. are you paying attention...NO RELEVANCE to what I said. I dont agree with senselessly killing animals that are defenseless for here we go... sport!

Did you follow that?
>>

Is it OK with you if hunters kill deer and eat the meat?
Is it OK with you if the deer starves to death in the winter because there are too many deer and too little food?

 

[LethalWolfe]

Some one mentioned this before, but no one seemed to pay attention. Animal pops need to be controlled. Since most predators have been eliminated deer pops grow beyond what the environment can support. Case in point, the deer population in southern Indiana has grown so much that deer are starving to death and the state parks, where most of the deer live, are literally being eaten away. So Indiana began a very strict controlled hunt to thin the deer pop and get it down to a normal size. Either man needs to hunt deer, or predators need to be re-introduced. And since predators are "evil" I don't see wolves getting re-introduced on a wide scale anytime soon. So I guess we have 3 options.
1. Let hunters control the deer pop
2. Re-introduce predators to control the deer pop
3. Let the deer pop go unchecked so the deer can destroy their habitat (read: our state/national parts) and starve to death.


Lethal

 

[yokomo]

well Tobeme honestly put it right. He laid out the facts and did it in a very good manor.. and I guess look at it this way you say the deer is a defenceless animal and it is cruel. Well what what would you call a man in the woods that gets attacked by a cougar...

my guess would be screwed....

but back to the subject any one else get any trophys this year?

 

[gopunk]

i'm not going to say that hunting is wrong, because i don't think it is. i don't have a problem with the killing of animals for meat. what i AM saying is that, i don't understand how somebody can bring themselves to kill a living creature. i like meat, and i'm glad that there are people willing to "make" it for me, because i don't think i would be able to "make" my own meat. i just can't imagine killing an animal like that.

 

[tcsenter]

<< Damn, what a cool sport. Killing defensless animals. >>

Hey, if you want to find out how defenseless they are, you're welcome to come stay with me for a few days during the rut. I'll take you out to heavily used rutting areas, and you can get touchy feely with a 150+lb buck in heat who thinks you're there to challenge his harem. You two will have a nice touchy feely talk, he may even let you pet him as he's goring you with his antlers and hooves.

<< If you think you are a man because you can shoot a animal that has no way to fire back at you, you need to re-evaluate your definition of sport and murder. >>

WTF is this crap? Does the lion prey on other predators that can "defend" themselves? NO predator choses animals that can defend themselves, unless there aren't many other choices for them.

If deer were meant to have guns, they'd have them. We evolved and used our brain to build tools. When you give up all of the modern tools of man that we've developed to compensate for our lack of claws and fangs, then you can talk. Until then, just go to the supermarket and buy meat that someone else killed for you.

<< Real hunting: With a bow when you have to track the deer >>

LMAO! I'm in Michigan, where guns are considered family members. I know 100 bow hunters, and not a single one of them "track" their deer. You sit in a blind, JUST like gun hunting, except your cammo is better, and when bambi gets within ARROW range, you impale him with a razor sharp broadhead, which rarely brings the animal down in any quick and humane way like a rifle can. It is one step removed from brutally clubbing or stabbing an animal to death.

"Track" their deer. lol!

 

[Pacfanweb]

I personally don't hunt anymore, I used to hunt dove and quail.

However, it's funny to see all the candy-asses here that think it's ok for other animals such as lions with huge fangs and claws to hunt and kill basically defenseless antelope, gazelle, etc.
Do you realize that after catching its prey, most large predators bite them on the neck to suffocate them? Makes getting a bullet through head or heart look a bit more humane, I think.

We shouldn't hunt animals, but it's ok for other animals to tear them limb from limb. That's what nature is all about. Would it make anyone feel better if I stalked a deer, wrestled it down and then choked it?

 

[Wheezer]

If animals are not meant to be eaten then why are they made of meat?

 

[b0mbrman]

i dont need to hunt em, they come to me.. except i dont bring em home and eat em after plowing through one in my car! i hate deer.
personally, id prefer to go out and shoot em, as long as it keeps em off my damn car.. stupid animals


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