LBJ Destroyed African-American Families

Texashiker

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Finally, someone gets it.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...r-nfl-player-reveals-what-led-him-to-the-gop/

Garry Cobb, the 57-year-old former NFL linebacker, is running as a Republican for Congress in New Jersey, and he recently sat down with Newsmax TV to explain why he has rejected the Democrats.

“[LBJ's anti-poverty programs were] an incentive for the man to leave the home, and it’s destroyed African-American families throughout the country,” Cobb said.

Now he’s running for Congress in a bid to turn things around and get government out of areas in which it has no business interfering.

As a conservative Republican / Libertarian, I am not opposed to welfare or giving someone a helping hand.

The problem starts when families are told if there is someone in the house working, then the benefits will be reduced. If the mother is single, she gets even more benefits.

We need welfare reform.

We need incentives for families to stay together, we need dads working, we need to provide low income families with a clear path out of poverty.
 

smackababy

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What does LeBron James have to do with being a conservative? LBJ might have left home for Miami, but he has returned!
 

nehalem256

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Exactly has liberals wanted.

Replace the family with the state.

Women don't need a man if they have the man
 

JockoJohnson

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Just stop. As this one poster has stated from another thread:

Yes, continue to deny that many liberal policies actually work in practice.

There is no arguing it. Many liberal policies have good intentions and always work as planned -- This being one of the biggest success stories.

Democrat voters for the rest of their lives.
 

Genx87

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LBJ may have started social programs that contributed to dependency. But I think Nixons war on drugs put the nail in the coffin. Blacks were disproportionately incarcerated due to our drug policies in this country.
 

hal2kilo

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Yea, should have just left things alone, or sent them a box of bootstraps.
 

Texashiker

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Yea, should have just left things alone, or sent them a box of bootstraps.

Negative. At least we have a social safety net.

Assistance must come with some type of accountability.

If someone (male or female) accepts assistance, there must be some kind of clear path to lift them out of poverty. Whether it is community college or trade school, there has to be a clear and easy path.

"the bus will be at your house at 7:30 to take you to the community college and take your kids to daycare. You are required to either go to college or go to trade school as long as you are receiving assistance."
 
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HomerJS

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Just stop. As this one poster has stated from another thread:



There is no arguing it. Many liberal policies have good intentions and always work as planned -- This being one of the biggest success stories.

Democrat voters for the rest of their lives.

Yeah the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts were a real bitch
 

JockoJohnson

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Yeah the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts were a real bitch

Ya, Affirmative Action is another winner. Needed back then, a crutch now. Let that one go away but then the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world make a living off of race baiting.
 

shortylickens

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Yeah, and Kennedy was actually a lousy president.
But history loves democrats more than the other 5 parties.
 

nehalem256

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Why haven't men of other ethnic groups abandoned their families?

Are you saying they haven't?

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Of course since black people started off poorer they would be hurt the worst.
 

alcoholbob

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Why haven't men of other ethnic groups abandoned their families?

They have been, all groups have seen a significant rise since the 60s. The white illegitimacy rate today is 48% higher than the black rate in 1964, and it was already considered a disaster for blacks in the 1960s.
 

Svnla

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Are you saying they haven't?

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Of course since black people started off poorer they would be hurt the worst.

Darn, where is the Asian group? Soooooooo rrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaccccccciiiiiiissssssstttttttt!!!!!!! <relax, tongue in cheek>

And look at the 40s, back then the highest was below 20%, now it is over 70%. <shocking>
 
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smackababy

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Darn, where is the Asian group? Soooooooo rrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaccccccciiiiiiissssssstttttttt!!!!!!! <relax, tongue in cheek>

Don't you know how Asians work? If they fit your agenda as a minority, they are included. Otherwise, they are left out of the equation! Example: minorities and college acceptance.
 

Texashiker

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What were the people of the 1940s and 1950s doing right?

Oh, I forgot, that was before liberals destroyed family values.

Having sex with whoever, abortions, welfare, easy access to divorces, no responsibility,,,, everything else that works against core family values.
 

nehalem256

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What were the people of the 1940s and 1950s doing right?

Oh, I forgot, that was before liberals destroyed family values.

Having sex with whoever, abortions, welfare, easy access to divorces, no responsibility,,,, everything else that works against core family values.

What is funny is that liberals claim that poverty leads to bad decision making

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/09/study_poverty_causes_poor_decision_making_newscred/

But then they promote a value system that encourages people to do whatever personally feels right to them. In essence maximizing the number of choices people need to make.

Gee, I wonder why this doesn't work well for reducing poverty? :hmm:
 

ivwshane

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I'd say anti poverty measures are working not hurting, could they be better? Sure. You small government types like to complain about government until you want more of it.

How about asking more from businesses, you know, those institutions that actually can help people get out of poverty and it has the added benefit of helping only those who actually work.
 

alcoholbob

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Darn, where is the Asian group? Soooooooo rrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaccccccciiiiiiissssssstttttttt!!!!!!! <relax, tongue in cheek>

And look at the 40s, back then the highest was below 20%, now it is over 70%. <shocking>

For political reasons I suspect Asians are rarely included in race based statistics. Its hard to fit an agenda in a group that has 1/4 the crime rate of whites and lower problem indices across th board.

Generally when you ideology starts with "everything bad is caused by white racism" its very hard to explain a group that was for decades banned from immigrating to the country and had to pay special taxes that didn't applied to whites, and the government considers "more white privilege than whites" when it comes to affirmative action tiers. You know if you have an asian parent and a white parent you are better off claiming you are white because Asians have too much privilege.
 

nehalem256

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I'd say anti poverty measures are working not hurting, could they be better? Sure. You small government types like to complain about government until you want more of it.

How about asking more from businesses, you know, those institutions that actually can help people get out of poverty and it has the added benefit of helping only those who actually work.

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Doesn't look that way to me. Looks like poverty was declining until LBJ initiated his Great Society programs. And has basically flat lined since.