Lawsuit Accuses Virginia Republicans Of 'Racial Gerrymandering'

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GarfieldtheCat

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Sounds like you want to specifically draw districts in order to ensure that you get the result you want?

Now, drawing districts specifically to get an end result would be what exactly?:hmm:

Would care to explain how the results are so out of whack?

Did you even read the NYT link posted above?

Democrats received 1.4 million more votes for the House of Representatives, yet Republicans won control of the House by a 234 to 201 margin. This is only the second such reversal since World War II.

Hmm....more votes, but still had 33 less seats. Nothing fishy there right?

In North Carolina, where the two-party House vote was 51 percent Democratic, 49 percent Republican, the average simulated delegation was seven Democrats and six Republicans. The actual outcome? Four Democrats, nine Republicans — a split that occurred in less than 1 percent of simulations. If districts were drawn fairly, this lopsided discrepancy would hardly ever occur.

Yup, 51/49 split became 9/4........see anything fishy yet?

Would you care to address these issues with some facts, or you still trolling?
 

cabri

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Would care to explain how the results are so out of whack?

Did you even read the NYT link posted above?



Hmm....more votes, but still had 33 less seats. Nothing fishy there right?




Yup, 51/49 split became 9/4........see anything fishy yet?

Would you care to address these issues with some facts, or you still trolling?
Stack the deck and the results sometime will amaze you

The Democrats seem to congregate in the cities and overwhelm the # of Republicans by a large margin. Therefore their overwhelming votes are excess for the win but pad the statistics.

What you are asking is for complete proportional representation via the country or state vs community.

The designers of the constitution saw that it would be a problem with the large urban areas/states overriding the smaller/urban and setup counter balances.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Stack the deck and the results sometime will amaze you

The Democrats seem to congregate in the cities and overwhelm the # of Republicans by a large margin. Therefore their overwhelming votes are excess for the win but pad the statistics.

What you are asking is for complete proportional representation via the country or state vs community.

The designers of the constitution saw that it would be a problem with the large urban areas/states overriding the smaller/urban and setup counter balances.

You might want to go back to school and read up, because you don't know what you are talking about.
 

michal1980

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i bet the republicans would be sued if the reverse happened and they diluted the minority district.
 

cabri

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You might want to go back to school and read up, because you don't know what you are talking about.

Instead of Democrats being scattered evenly through out at say a 52/48 split throughout all precincts; they get lumped geographically at a 70/30 in the precincts that are in urban areas.

That then changes the balance outside the urban areas to a rough 45/55.

So even simply the numbers for you easily

100K people with 10 districts
Average 10K per district.
Population has a 52/48 split you have 52K Dem and 48K Rep

Democrat
Urban areas 3 districts with a 70/30 ration
3 * 7 = 21K

That leaves 31K divided among 7 districts for about 4.5K per district

Republican
Urban areas 3 districts
3 *3K = 9K

That leaves 39K divided among 7 districts for about 5.5K per district

So you have the Rural areas of 7 districts going Republican and 3 urban going Democrat even though there are more Democrats in the mix.

There vote is diluted overall by the excess capacity in the urban areas.
Yet the same number of voters exist in each district and are geographically/culturally/politically related.

Because the numbers do not favor Democratic side overall; you want to redraw the districts by breaking boundaries to get the desired results.

Another word for the GERRYMANDERING that you are complaining about.
 

nehalem256

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i bet the republicans would be sued if the reverse happened and they diluted the minority district.

Did you miss?
Virginia's 3rd district:

The district's current configuration dates to 1993, when the Justice Department (Eric Holder) ordered Virginia to create a majority-minority district. At that time, portions of the old 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th districts were combined to create a new 3rd District.