Lawmakers Call for an End to Internet Anonymity

dmcowen674

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5-23-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/lawmakers-call-end-internet-anonymity-144224952.html

Lawmakers Call for an End to Internet Anonymity


Lawmakers in New York State think the root of all Internet evil lies in the anonymous nature by which comments get posted on news websites and social media.

Their solution? They've introduced Internet anonymity legislation that would make New York-based website owners delete any anonymous posts that other Internet users label as cyberbullying.

Should the bills pass, any Internet user could call up a toll-free number that websites would be required to set up to handle such grievances. Anonymous web users would then have but a single recourse to save their posts if such a compliant is lodged against them: unmask completely by revealing their name and going through an identification process.

Should they refuse, the post must be deleted within 48 hours.

"A web site administrator, upon request, shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name and home address are accurate," reads the draft legislation, identical versions of which have been introduces in both chambers of New York's legislature.

O'Mara has not spoken to any website hosts about the legislation, nor does he consider the idea a violation of the First Amendment.


"I'll be taking comments from web hosts and on the First Amendment into consideration," said O'Mara. "By no means is this an attempt to infringe upon the First Amendment. I don't think hosts of websites want to be in a position of fostering false or unsubstantiated information, and I want to work with all interests on the bill."

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5-24-2012

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/05/24/2212223/fbi-quietly-forms-secretive-net-surveillance-unit?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29

FBI Quietly Forms Secretive Net-Surveillance Unit



"CNET has learned that the FBI has formed a Domestic Communications Assistance Center, which is tasked with developing new electronic surveillance technologies, including intercepting Internet, wireless, and VoIP communications.

'The big question for me is why there isn't more transparency about what's going on?' asks Jennifer Lynch, a staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil liberties group in San Francisco. 'We should know more about the program and what the FBI is doing. Which carriers they're working with — which carriers they're having problems with. They're doing the best they can to avoid being transparent.'"
 
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dmcowen674

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The Law should be called the Truth in Posting Law.

This would stop liars from posting misleading and false information.

In this age of information lies should not be "protected" as free speech.

That is how entire countries and cultures get into trouble and fall.
 

piasabird

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The real issue is not Anonymity, but a desire on the part of the government to use censorship and to try to prohibit free speech.
 

piasabird

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So what about all the falsehoods that come out of the mouth of pundits and politicians and so-called journalists??? It is a joke to try to chase after people who state their opinion on the Internet. What about letterman and all the other idiots.
 

woolfe9999

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Much douchebaggery is indeed caused by the anonymity of the internet. However, we can't legislate away all douchebaggery. One major counter-veiling consideration, apart from the obvious free speech objection, is that requiring people to identify themselves online may open them up to stalking and could present real world dangers that exceed the threat of "cyber-bullying."

This bill strikes me as absurd.
 
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blackangst1

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Much douchebaggery is indeed caused by the anonymity of the internet. However, we can't legislate away all douchebaggery. One major counter-veiling consideration, apart from the obvious free speech objection, is that requiring people to identify themselves online may open them up to stalking and could present real world dangers that exceed the threat of "cyber-bullying."

This bill strikes me as absurd.

I agree. Thankfully this law wont affect many message boards.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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How about a trial period first where we eliminate the anonymity of all lawyers, politicians and, those who occupy public office.
 

xj0hnx

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The Law should be called the Truth in Posting Law.

This would stop liars from posting misleading and false information.

In this age of information lies should not be "protected" as free speech.

That is how entire countries and cultures get into trouble and fall.

But dude, you wouldn't be able to post, and your whole history here would be wiped out.
 

LegendKiller

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The Law should be called the Truth in Posting Law.

This would stop liars from posting misleading and false information.

In this age of information lies should not be "protected" as free speech.

That is how entire countries and cultures get into trouble and fall.

Yeah, it would stop people trolling about hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes and bridge collapses.
 

zsdersw

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The Law should be called the Truth in Posting Law.

This would stop liars from posting misleading and false information.

In this age of information lies should not be "protected" as free speech.

That is how entire countries and cultures get into trouble and fall.

:D That's rich. Silly, silly liberals... thinking that laws like this would succeed in stopping something.
 

Pr0d1gy

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:D That's rich. Silly, silly liberals... thinking that laws like this would succeed in stopping something.

Don't turn this into politics. The only real application of this law to politics is that whichever side takes power starts imprisoning people who post opposing views on the internet and that party takes control without any resistance.

This is BAD FOR BOTH SIDES.
 

Dulanic

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It is part anonymity but it is mostly the non personal communication even if you are not anonymous. What does it matter if you call someone an asshole online? If you do it to their face, you may get hit.
 

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Much douchebaggery is indeed caused by the anonymity of the internet. However, we can't legislate away all douchebaggery. One major counter-veiling consideration, apart from the obvious free speech objection, is that requiring people to identify themselves online may open them up to stalking and could present real world dangers that exceed the threat of "cyber-bullying."

This bill strikes me as absurd.

:thumbsup:
 

dmcowen674

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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
The Law should be called the Truth in Posting Law.

This would stop liars from posting misleading and false information.

In this age of information lies should not be "protected" as free speech.

That is how entire countries and cultures get into trouble and fall.



But dude, you wouldn't be able to post, and your whole history here would be wiped out.

You guys would be knocked off the Internets too
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Don't turn this into politics. The only real application of this law to politics is that whichever side takes power starts imprisoning people who post opposing views on the internet and that party takes control without any resistance.

This is BAD FOR BOTH SIDES.

I'm in this armpit of a state and it IS the liberal philosophy here. The government is responsible for making things fair and right through its power. It's upholding the rights of the oppressed. We're just a little ahead of the curve.

I'm trying to find the idiots contact info. Yes I said idiot.
 

Pr0d1gy

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I'm in this armpit of a state and it IS the liberal philosophy here. The government is responsible for making things fair and right through its power. It's upholding the rights of the oppressed. We're just a little ahead of the curve.

I'm trying to find the idiots contact info. Yes I said idiot.

Who cares which side it is. If it isn't one it is the other that would have done it. This is a non party issue people, wake up. This is the kind of measure that leads to a Nazi type power rising to control the masses.
 

rchiu

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The day "lawmakers" make every hooker they fvck public, that's the day we put an end to Internet anonymity