Law Passed Making Colleges Become Copyright Police

[hellokeith]

Or students could just stop illegal downloading of copyrighted media.. nah, pass the bong bro.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i thought we elected the democrats to stop this sort of crap

Whoa dude, O-Bama is not in just yet. He has to part the Red Sea first.

FTW...

The Dems have done nothing. Lowest approval rating ever, but everyone wants to elect another one...Good job, America, good job...

I hear ya... why would anyone vote for McCain after 8 years of Bush?



edit: on topic, thanks to those who clarified how the bill actually reads.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Are colleges still havens for piracy? I thought most had started to clamp down on piracy with minimal pressure from RIAA/MPAA. As Scarpozzi pointed out, P2P eats a lot of bandwidth; colleges have a lot of incentive to snuff it out, especially if it's interfering with legitimate, academic uses of network resources.

UC Irvine has a pretty tight lid on torrents, I can't even download .torrent files, and somehow .torrent traffic completely doesn't work (ie download a torrent on another network and try it on campus). They say it's some magical piece of hardware that they installed. Don't ask me how the hell it works...

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Bibble
Does this apply to all universities or just public schools?

EDIT: After doing some more research I think the title of this thread and article linked in the OP are misleading. Only a tiny section this large bill has anything to do with piracy and it basically says that schools who figure out a system to reduce it will get some grant money. This is far from forcing schools to act as "copyright police."

Only schools that receive this type of federal funding. Private schools generally don't receive federal funds to my knowledge...

Basically, if a university is found violating the bill, their funding gets cut and any students on said funding are screwed. Edit: But I believe this is additional funding, but it does put students in a bad situation. You can be receiving this type of money as a student and not be using P2P at all, and then you can lose this funding as a consequence of other students' P2P activities. It's a pretty shitty way of doing things.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i thought we elected the democrats to stop this sort of crap

hollywood isn't exactly republican😉

 

[Wheezer]

my school already does something, if you have Lime wire, Kazaa, eMule, Gnutella, Bear-Share or any other well known crap p2p file sharing software you cannot access the wireless network. They can detect it and will not allow access until you call the IT dept. and let them know that you no longer have that software on your pc.

Not that big of deal really, uTorrent and usenet still function just fine and are undetected.

 

[0roo0roo]

from the thread...
H.R. 4137: College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2008

Sponsor:
Rep. George Miller [D-CA]

Cosponsors:
Rep. Jason Altmire [D-PA]
Rep. Timothy Bishop [D-NY]
Rep. Yvette Clarke [D-NY]
Rep. Steve Cohen [D-TN]
Rep. Joe Courtney [D-CT]
Rep. Joseph Crowley [D-NY]
Rep. Danny Davis [D-IL]
Rep. Susan Davis [D-CA]
Rep. Eliot Engel [D-NY]
Rep. Raul Grijalva [D-AZ]
Rep. Phil Hare [D-IL]
Rep. Rubén Hinojosa [D-TX]
Rep. Mazie Hirono [D-HI]
Rep. Michael Honda [D-CA]
Rep. Dale Kildee [D-MI]
Rep. David Loebsack [D-IA]
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]
Rep. Betty McCollum [D-MN]
Rep. Grace Napolitano [D-CA]
Rep. Donald Payne [D-NJ]
Rep. John Sarbanes [D-MD]
Rep. Robert Scott [D-VA]
Rep. Carol Shea-Porter [D-NH]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D-CA]
Rep. John Tierney [D-MA]
Rep. Christopher Van Hollen [D-MD]
Rep. Lynn Woolsey [D-CA]
Rep. David Wu [D-OR]
Rep. John Yarmuth [D-KY]

egads
Total Ayes Democrat 45 Republican 36 Independent 2
Total Nays: Democrat 0 Republican 8
atleast a few republicans had the guts to vote no

 

[Oakenfold]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
That's a load of crap. P2P is already enemy #1 to college campuses. It eats bandwidth, which isn't cheap when you're supporting 5,000+ node networks....often not even counting student dorms. For P2P, you can't expect them to be stopped because of the way they work....you can only attempt to prevent them by port filtering, packetshaping, and throttling through QOS that would make their use so slow that no one would want to bother. You can only allow the network administrators and police to come in and waste tax dollars trying to catch those using them.

A lot of P2P systems aren't port dependent and that's how most traffic is filtered through PIX-like devices. If clients sharing music over port 80, 25, 110, etc...do they expect to shut down all HTTP traffic, SMTP, POP3, etc...?

Then you have companies using BitTorrent for legitimate uses and just because MP3s and AVIs exist doesn't mean they're not a legitimate backup...

If they expect to stop this stuff, they'd better outline EXACTLY what minimum steps the networks invovled are expected to take. That's the only way anyone will take it seriously.

and how much are you paid by the MPAA?

Dmcowen67 I think you need to re-read Scarpozzi's statement...your reading comprehension was off the mark based on your comment. 😉

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i thought we elected the democrats to stop this sort of crap

Whoa dude, O-Bama is not in just yet. He has to part the Red Sea first.

FTW...

The Dems have done nothing. Lowest approval rating ever, but everyone wants to elect another one...Good job, America, good job...

I hear ya... why would anyone vote for McCain after 8 years of Bush?



edit: on topic, thanks to those who clarified how the bill actually reads.

isn't congress a democrat majority now? they're the ones who make the bills in the first place 😛

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: 0

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i thought we elected the democrats to stop this sort of crap

Whoa dude, O-Bama is not in just yet. He has to part the Red Sea first.

FTW...

The Dems have done nothing. Lowest approval rating ever, but everyone wants to elect another one...Good job, America, good job...

Done nothing? Is GWB "doing nothing" when he uses his "veto pen"? Or is that "doing something"?

 

[sourceninja]

Well, if they want our college to do it they better start funding us better. They are cutting our funding now, threatening to cut our funding doesn't mean shit when the funding we get is almost negligible.