Latin American Alliance Locks US Canada Out

[rchiu]

LATIN American and Caribbean nations have agreed to create a new regional alliance, without the United States and Canada.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon confirmed the geopolitical shift at a summit in Mexico.

The bloc "must as a priority push for regional integration ... and promote the regional agenda in global meetings," Calderon told participants from 32 nations, including 24 leaders, at the beach resort of Cancun.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wo...tates-canada-out/story-e6frf7lf-1225833729887

For all the attentions on ME, China and other parts of the world, shouldn't the US be paying more attention to what the neighbors are doing and participate? Latin American countries such as Brazil is pretty big and growing market, and with the increasing number of Latin American in the US, the easy of access by land, shouldn't US build a stronger ties in both economic and political front with these countries?

Looks like these US neighbors purposely excluded US in the political and economic discussion. Why do they not see US as part of them? Has US been ignoring them, being too self centered? Isn't Obama coming to the office suppose to change all that?

 

[Hacp]

For all the attentions on ME, China and other parts of the world, shouldn't the US be paying more attention to what the neighbors are doing and participate? Latin American countries such as Brazil is pretty big and growing market, and with the increasing number of Latin American in the US, the easy of access by land, shouldn't US build a stronger ties in both economic and political front with these countries?

Looks like these US neighbors purposely excluded US in the political and economic discussion. Why do they not see US as part of them? Has US been ignoring them, being too self centered? Isn't Obama coming to the office suppose to change all that?

Maybe we should kick all the latin citizens that cross our borders illegally out first. We don't want your poor comming to the US illegally, go to Brazil please.

 

[Circlenaut]

In thirty years lets see which country the US or Brazil will have a better living standard.

 

[IGBT]

For all the attentions on ME, China and other parts of the world, shouldn't the US be paying more attention to what the neighbors are doing and participate? Latin American countries such as Brazil is pretty big and growing market, and with the increasing number of Latin American in the US, the easy of access by land, shouldn't US build a stronger ties in both economic and political front with these countries?

Looks like these US neighbors purposely excluded US in the political and economic discussion. Why do they not see US as part of them? Has US been ignoring them, being too self centered? Isn't Obama coming to the office suppose to change all that?

it's obvious to the most casual observer, you guys got fooled and taken by your obama. And it's not over yet.

 

[sandorski]

IMO, this is in their best interest. The US/Canada being involved completely skews what would be decided and the Latin American Nations would have little to do but change to US/Canada's will.

 

[jhu]

So first we get the Central American Union and then we get the United States of Central America. And maybe the United States of South America. Neat!

 

[Zebo]

Call me when i should give a fuck All of Latin America's GDP combined is that of Texas.

BTW Cancun kicks ass. @ Senior Frogs even AT guys are guaranteed to get laid.

 

[jhu]

Call me when i should give a fuck All of Latin America's GDP combined is that of Texas.

BTW Cancun kicks ass. @ Senior Frogs even AT guys are guaranteed to get laid.

GDP of Latin America is about $5.9 trillion - larger than Japan and China's economy.

 

[rchiu]

Call me when i should give a fuck All of Latin America's GDP combined is that of Texas.

BTW Cancun kicks ass. @ Senior Frogs even AT guys are guaranteed to get laid.

What are you smoking? Brazil's GDP along (top 8~10 in the world depending on the source) is bigger than that of Texas and it's growing fast.

What I don't get is why the US is bending over to beg the Chinese for all these trade when Latin America is just next door and share closer cultural ties. Looks like American politician is letting Latin American to get further and further way with LA's left leaning movement and the anti-immigration views in the US.

Personally I think that's unfortunate and a waste of good opportunity.

 

[Hacp]

What are you smoking? Brazil's GDP along (top 8~10 in the world depending on the source) is bigger than that of Texas and it's growing fast.

What I don't get is why the US is bending over to beg the Chinese for all these trade when Latin America is just next door and share closer cultural ties. Looks like American politician is letting Latin American to get further and further way with LA's left leaning movement and the anti-immigration views in the US.

Personally I think that's unfortunate and a waste of good opportunity.

Screw that. No China. No Mexico. Only US.

 

[jhu]

What are you smoking? Brazil's GDP along (top 8~10 in the world depending on the source) is bigger than that of Texas and it's growing fast.

What I don't get is why the US is bending over to beg the Chinese for all these trade when Latin America is just next door and share closer cultural ties. Looks like American politician is letting Latin American to get further and further way with LA's left leaning movement and the anti-immigration views in the US.

Personally I think that's unfortunate and a waste of good opportunity.

I think you answered your own question there.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

This will work about as well as the League of Nations in the 1900's or V-H1's B List reality show.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100224/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_latam_summit

Latin American countries, however, have competing interests of their own — a point driven home by bickering at the summit.

At a dinner Monday night, conservative Colombian President Alvaro Uribe started complaining about Venezuela's trade sanctions against Colombia, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because delegations at the meeting had agreed not to discuss the spat publicly.

He described the following incident to reporters: Chavez shot back that Venezuela was constantly threatened by paramilitaries in the neighboring country and suggested the Colombian government was involved.

Chavez then stood up from the table, ready to storm off, when Uribe told him to stay and "be a man."

Chavez told Uribe to "go to hell," according to Venezuelan state television.

After they calmed down, the leaders agreed to create a "group of friends" to mediate between the feuding presidents. Chavez and Uribe played down the incident Tuesday, promising to work out their differences.

Then, Bolivian President Evo Morales, one of Chavez's strongest allies, reignited tensions by suggesting Uribe was a U.S. agent sent to sabotage the bloc.

"What's my conclusion?" Morales said. "Since we are debating a new organization without the United States, the agents of the United States have come to bog this down to make this event fail."

 

[Zebo]

GDP of Latin America is about $5.9 trillion - larger than Japan and China's economy.

fuck that BS. Have you been there? 99% abject poverty. sure 1% is richer than our billionaires but not a place I's like to live

 

[rchiu]

This will work about as well as the League of Nations in the 1900's or V-H1's B List reality show.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100224/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_latam_summit

Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, that's not the point. The point is that your neighbor dislike you enough to exclude you in the alliance, and your neighbor is more and more left leaning everyday and you know which up coming super power left leaning country looks up to for trade and political backing.

The point is your politicians and your own people don't give a $hit and rather spend trillions nation building halfway around the world with no benefit in trade and international diplomacy. The point is the world is building one after another alliance and economic bloc and compete against the US. The point is we all talk about how the US feels isolated and alone in the world during Bush era, and the future isn't looking any better.

 

[JEDIYoda]

it's obvious to the most casual observer, you guys got fooled and taken by your obama. And it's not over yet.

it's obvious that IGBT has no clue what he is talking about other than to open mouth and insert his foot into topics he has no clue about!

 

[irishScott]

Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, that's not the point. The point is that your neighbor dislike you enough to exclude you in the alliance, and your neighbor is more and more left leaning everyday and you know which up coming super power left leaning country looks up to for trade and political backing.

The point is your politicians and your own people don't give a $hit and rather spend trillions nation building halfway around the world with no benefit in trade and international diplomacy. The point is the world is building one after another alliance and economic bloc and compete against the US. The point is we all talk about how the US feels isolated and alone in the world during Bush era, and the future isn't looking any better.

Before you get on us for ignoring our neighbors, do you have any idea how much shit we give out every year in international aid? Hell we've given a lot of military support to Colombia directly over the years. Compare that to this vaunted Latin American upcoming super-power you speak of.

Add the fact that Castro is a caged senile dictatorial ass, Chavez is batshit crazy, almost every Latin American government is ridiculously corrupt with drugs and illegal immigrants pouring over our borders (largely due to the effects of said corruption)... yeah Latin America isn't really doing much for us at the moment beyond a sizable bit of trade that is still relatively insignificant when compared to some of our other partners (ie: China).

So yeah, we've prioritized. Deal with it. Besides, I hardly see this "alliance" lasting.

 

[StageLeft]

I know which alliance I'd rather be part of.

 

[rchiu]

Before you get on us for ignoring our neighbors, do you have any idea how much shit we give out every year in international aid? Hell we've given a lot of military support to Colombia directly over the years. Compare that to this vaunted Latin American upcoming super-power you speak of.

Add the fact that Castro is a caged senile dictatorial ass, Chavez is batshit crazy, almost every Latin American government is ridiculously corrupt with drugs and illegal immigrants pouring over our borders (largely due to the effects of said corruption)... yeah Latin America isn't really doing much for us at the moment beyond a sizable bit of trade that is still relatively insignificant when compared to some of our other partners (ie: China).

So yeah, we've prioritized. Deal with it. Besides, I hardly see this "alliance" lasting.

I am not denying Latin American is in a bad shape. But go ahead and keep ignore them until your own backyard becomes a cesspool of drug smugglers and worst, left wing terrorists blaming their miseries on western influence, just like Muslims. Oh yeah, and they can cross your border any day.

Yeap, go keep your focus halfway around the world and continue ignore your neighbors.