Last middle class person in U.S. please turn out the lights

[Jhhnn]

wasn't Obama going to make this better?

He did. Not that you'd notice, obviously.

 

[Jhhnn]

LMAO. Do you honestly believe this?

PS Hilary claims America is already great.

America *is* the greatest civilization ever created by the human race.

 

[openwheel]

LMAO. Do you honestly believe this?

PS Hilary claims America is already great.

But Trump says we need to make America great again. So American needs to be great again. It is a uuuge issue we are facing in this nation.

Let's elect Hillary and put Democrats in control of congress, so we can actually make America great again. It is obvious that the Republican base is full of deplorable uneducated closet bigots. They are only for their party, not for this nation.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. Heck, let's make red states great again!!!

 

[Atreus21]

How is middle class defined?

 

[master_shake_]

How is middle class defined?

between not ferrari money and not no money.

 

[Mai72]

How is middle class defined?

Hmmm...

I believe it's anywhere between $15k and $120k. I know those numbers are off, but they are somewhere in the ballpark. A typical middle class salary is about $53k. I don't know how you even make ends meet on $53k. Taxes, kids, car, home/rent, food, retirement, etc. You quickly find out it doesn't go far.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I think Glenn is doing some interesting pharmaceuticals if he thinks illegal immigration has anything to do with the shrinking middle class.

I blame the constant expansion of the H1B program, fueled by HR depts told to list jobs with insane / impossible requirements. (In past times, they would take underskilled applicants, and train them on the job.)

It's not just the illegals doing day labor and keeping Joe Sixpack out of a construction job, it's the "good jobs" too, going to imported Indians, etc., on H1Bs.

 

[agent00f]

How do the dems represent the middle class? By supporting illegal immigration to lower wages?

Just like for glenn, if you're competing against illegal immigrants for work then you're hardly middle class.

Illegal immigrants are beneficial to the classes above them by lowering the cost of services purchased by the latter.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Just like for glenn, if you're competing against illegal immigrants for work then you're hardly middle class.

Illegal immigrants are beneficial to the classes above them by lowering the cost of services purchased by the latter.

Yes & no because there is a certain trickle up effect on wages. Also plenty of construction illegals are hired at below standard wage, temporary and no benefits.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yes & no because there is a certain trickle up effect on wages. Also plenty of construction illegals are hired at below standard wage, temporary and no benefits.

That's because they are illegal. If they were legal, they'd have rights & employers wouldn't be able to under pay them.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

That's because they are illegal. If they were legal, they'd have rights & employers wouldn't be able to under pay them.

Different question but yes I agree

 

[theeedude]

Same was famously said about Seattle, and now it's a liberal technological boom town.

So there is hope

 

[hal2kilo]

Same was famously said about Seattle, and now it's a liberal technological boom town.

So there is hope

Wow, wasn't even finished and it got posted...........anyway..................
If Boeing has it way (now headquartered in Chicago, no accident), that sign may reappear. But, since Microsoft, Adobe, Amazon......the list goes on, are headquartered in Seattle, the lights won't go out.

 

[theeedude]

Wow, wasn't even finished and it got posted...........anyway..................
If Boeing has it way (now headquartered in Chicago, no accident), that sign may reappear. But, since Microsoft, Adobe, Amazon......the list goes on, are headquartered in Seattle, the lights won't go out.

And that's the point. You can't just cling on to the old industries if you want to be prosperous.

 

[agent00f]

Yes & no because there is a certain trickle up effect on wages.

Not really for industries scrapping the bottom. Illegal immigrant labor is not fungible with any sort of profession.

Also plenty of construction illegals are hired at below standard wage, temporary and no benefits.

Not all construction work is the same.

 

[zinfamous]

well clearly all that stuff has been trickling somewhere!