large monitors not worth it?

oneofusjustin

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So im building a new rig and i just got 2 Dell ultra sharp 24inch IPS off craigs list for $200 total. I couldnt pass that up. But they run at 1920x1200 and im looking at bench marks which are showing at this resolution, even a 780 is going to bog down to 35-50FPS is many games.

So what im trying to figure out is, is it really worth it to have a big screen thats over 1080p? building a $1600 rig and then having to turn off AA and AF filters to get over 60FPS seems like a kick in the nutts.
 

KingFatty

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The beauty of your displays is, if you want to run them like 1080p monitors, you simply can!

Just set the game's resolution to 1920x1080. Then there is no extra work for your computer, it gets a break just as though it were running that size monitor.

Then, in desktop mode, you enjoy the full 1200p vertical resolution, much better for reducing the need to scroll vertically.

When I use this trick on my monitor for Starcraft 2, it just puts black bars across the top and bottom, similar to how you'd see movies letterbox themselves. And if you think letterboxing is terrible, well you can't really escape from it because even a 1080p monitor will letterbox the extra-wide movies (e.g., Prometheus) that are wider than 1080p monitors.

Anyway, I just want to point out that you can enjoy all the benefits of having 1080p monitors when you want to in games, and then enjoy all the benefits of having 1200p monitors when you want to in desktop/internet mode.
 

bystander36

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how do you get the game to do black bars? all mine just stretch the resolution and look miserable

Turn off scaling from within the video card control panel, or within the monitors window. Both may be needed be turned off, depending on the monitor.
 

Skott

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Size is really personal preference. Some people are perfectly happy with 1920x1200 or 1920x1080p and some people prefer higher. There are some that prefer the lower res monitors. It really comes down to what your eyes feel good with and what your wallet can afford.
 

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So what im trying to figure out is, is it really worth it to have a big screen thats over 1080p?


Worth is subjective. It is going to differ when asking different people

Consider that 1920x1200 is about 11% more pixels to manage vs. 1920x1080. Its not that big of a difference. If you want more fps most games have settings where you can adjust the performance of the game.
 

oneofusjustin

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Worth is subjective. It is going to differ when asking different people

Consider that 1920x1200 is about 11% more pixels to manage vs. 1920x1080. Its not that big of a difference. If you want more fps most games have settings where you can adjust the performance of the game.


yeah but whats the point of a big monitor if you have to turn your ingame settings down?? thats the fork in the road im at i have a 4770k and a GTX 780 im sort of pissed that the cards piss out so quickly as resolution rises
 

SPBHM

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if I had high end hardware, I'm sure it would make more sense to play at 1440P with a few settings lowered than at 1080p with all at the max settings.
 

guskline

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Have a 27" Achieva Shimian 2560 x 1440 powered by GTX670 FTWs in SLI in rig 1 below. Plenty of horsepower for the monitor.
 

Yuriman

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I run a 24" 1920x1200 MVA panel. I was able to crank Crysis 3 up to max without AA and play it comfortably on my 7850 - though it definitely wasn't pegged at 60fps. I generally don't mind knocking shadows or post-processing down a notch though, and that uppermost setting in most games will often double your framerate with little detail loss.

That said, I don't play a lot of AAA titles anyway, so this card would probably be fine for 2560x1440 for the games I most often play.

My wife has an HD6670 and uses a 27" 1920x1080 IPS panel. She runs games like The Sims 3, Civilization 5 and Neverwinter at medium settings, and maxes out older games.

You may be overestimating what kind of hardware it takes to push those pixels - as long as you're not expecting to run 8x MSAA.
 

njdevilsfan87

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Plenty of horsepower here to run 2560x1440 @ 60hz or 1920x1080 @ 120-144Hz, depending on the game. ;)
 

z28dreams

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I wouldn't mind running lower resolutions - the problem is LCD's, unlike CRT's, look absolutely awful in their non-native resolution.

How many monitors/video cards today can do the black bar/letter boxing? That would be an acceptable solution to me.
 

Stuka87

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Sure at maximum settings a 780 may slow down. But turn down 1 or two settings and you will be fine. Most games have 1-2 settings that add very little IQ, but have a HUGE hit on performance.
 

ShintaiDK

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Had 2x24"(1200) before, now got 1 27" (1440) and 1 24(1200). The 24" is almost always off. The big monitor is absolutely worth it in every way.
 

CakeMonster

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So what im trying to figure out is, is it really worth it to have a big screen thats over 1080p? building a $1600 rig and then having to turn off AA and AF filters to get over 60FPS seems like a kick in the nutts.

Are you kidding? 1200p over 1080p is pretty much mandatory unless your use is 100% movies and games. There is a huge productivity gain as well as a lot less headache just when browsing.

Now as for the original question, I'd argue that 1440p and 1600p is actually worth it. When I got my 1440p I regretted that I hadn't gotten it sooner. And when I finally took the plunge and added a 1600p I couldn't understand how I had been able to hold out. The premium is easily justifiable IMO.
 

Black Octagon

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So im building a new rig and i just got 2 Dell ultra sharp 24inch IPS off craigs list for $200 total. I couldnt pass that up. But they run at 1920x1200 and im looking at bench marks which are showing at this resolution, even a 780 is going to bog down to 35-50FPS is many games.

So what im trying to figure out is, is it really worth it to have a big screen thats over 1080p? building a $1600 rig and then having to turn off AA and AF filters to get over 60FPS seems like a kick in the nutts.

A 780 only gets '35-50fps' at 1200p when those games are played at absolute maximum settings and high amounts of AA

At 1440p you need very little if any AA

I run a 1440p monitor at 120Hz and am not at all disturbed by the small amount of graphical settings I need to turn down in order to run my games at 60-120fps. That's on a single overclocked 7970 by the way.
 

KingFatty

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yeah but whats the point of a big monitor if you have to turn your ingame settings down?? thats the fork in the road im at i have a 4770k and a GTX 780 im sort of pissed that the cards piss out so quickly as resolution rises

How often is your computer turned on, but not playing a game?

I could understand if you are connecting the monitor to an Xbox or Playstation that can mostly just play games, but the computer is usually used for many other things like browsing the internet.

So having extra vertical pixels is really nice because generally, the internet is all about vertical space and scrolling vertically.