Large amount of DVD's how to store them?

coolred

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I currentlty have 230+ DVD's and we add more to that every so often. So the number continues to increase. I have most of them in a big storage thing with doors. Its pretty nice. Although it only holds around 200 give or take some. Well thats all its supposed to hold. I have probablly 10-12 more in thier by putting them on top of the others. The rest are all sitting on my entertainment center right now.

Knowing I will continue to add DVD's to my collection. I am wondering what I shoudl do to store them. I could obviously just buy another storage unit, but while I can probablly make room for it, I don't have the room right at the moment as things are. I could also just stash them in other places, like on my book shelf, or in my entertainment center, which can hold a few more. But those are kinda tempory solutions.

SO I am considering other options, the 2 that come to mind is buying a 300+ disc DVD changer. Although depending on capacity and models and stuff, they can get pricey, with the low end running 300.00 plus. I also hear that they can cause trouble searching for a certain movie. Not sure how they work, if you can just search for a title, or if you have to go through all click through all the movies to get to one near the end. I will have to research them more.

Another option is putting them all on an HTPC hooked up to my entertainment system. In both this case and the DVD changer, I would be storing either the cases, or the cases and the DVD's themselves inside a box, likely in the closest. This option seems the neatest, as I kinda want to get an HTPC up and running anyway because you can do a lot of neat stuff with them. I am just not sure how well this would work either. I assume for sake of hard drive space, they would need to be encoded in Divx or something like that. Not sure how good of quality that stuff is, do you lose the menus and extras when you do that? Anything else I need to know about that? Again I will have to look into that more as well.

SO what would you do?
 

Muadib

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I've been looking into going the HTPC route myself for the same reason.
 

eigen

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Originally posted by: coolred
Originally posted by: eigen
sell me all your movies for a hundred bucks.

Okay all my movies for 100 bucks a piece, and you got a deal.

Sorry, I guess I wasnt clear.I will buy ALL your movies for a hundred bucks TOTAL.
 

jpeyton

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HTPC for sure. Get Media Center (or another Media Center type program), add a couple of cheap 300GB hard drives, and start RIPPING!

Use DVD Shrink if you want to remove features, lower file sizes, etc. DivX is cool if you want to drastically reduce file sizes, but it's also very time intensive. You could be ripping and encoding for a long time if you go the DivX route.
 

Tab

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Bulid a Kickass Server and backup all the DVDs on them...

Then goto a local college campus with Internet 2....

:D :D :D :D :D
 

coolred

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Originally posted by: eigen
Originally posted by: coolred
Originally posted by: eigen
sell me all your movies for a hundred bucks.

Okay all my movies for 100 bucks a piece, and you got a deal.

Sorry, I guess I wasnt clear.I will buy ALL your movies for a hundred bucks TOTAL.

No you were perfectlly clear, I was joking. I just forgot the emoticon, couldn't decide which to use, although most likely I would have gone this route. :roll:


jpeyton, I don't know if I want to remove the features or not, probablly not, as it would be nice to at least keep the chapter selection available. But obviously space is a concern, not sure how much room the menus/extras on 250 DVD's takes up. Ripping/encoding time shouldn't be much of a problem. I am running dual 1.6 Xeons both at 3.2Ghz. Although thats on my main rig, I suppose I could always house them on it, and just use the HTPC to play them. Or I could just tranfer them over to the HTPC via network after I rip them on my main computer. Or even easier, i could rip them onto a drive on my computer and then just move that whole drive to the HTPC. I know with this many DVD's it will obviously take some time. If it works out nice, I am willing to put the time in on it.
 

jtvang125

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I have about 200 dvds myself so the direction I went with was getting a 400 disc changer. The particular model I got was a Sony which goes for $400 but I got mine for $350 because it was an open box. So far it's been a pleasant experience. I'll list a few pros and cons.

Pros:
1. Store all or most of your collection in one central location. No need to go searching for dvd cases or flip through binder cases to find a particular movie.
2. Input titles for dvds although you're limited to a number of characters each.
3. Less physical handling of discs reduces chances of scratching them.
4. Front opening can be locked with a code to prevent kids or others from taking your discs.
5. Supports DVD-R and DVD+R. Progressive scan.

Cons:
1. No search feature. You can sort them into groups but you still have to scroll through each movie to find what you want. You can't just type in "S" and it'll return all movies starting with "S". Com'on Sony, this is pathetic.
2. I have yet to find a way to stop the damn thing from autoplaying when first turned on. Very annoying when I just want to turn it on and put in a disc (rental, new dvd...ect). I would have to press stop like 3 or 4 times. And yes it still does this even if I press stop twice so that it won't resume next time. If the disc is missing, it'll just autoplay the next. ARRGGGH!
3. Slow to respond to inputs either on remote or the buttons on the unit.
4. Plays MP3s but does not support Tag files nor displays anything on the screen.

Though it has a few flaws, it's really not that bad. Here's what I recommend you do if you get one. Make a list of all the movies you put in and their corresponding disc slot number. Sort this list however you like. I have mine by genres (action, drama, horror..ect). Once you have the slot number, you can just enter that number, press play and it will search to that slot and start playing. Just keep that list nearby.
 

bsobel

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If you don't want to lose features/quality then your really looking at doing a 1:1 rip of the moves. Figure 7gig per title of 1.6 terabytes (more if you want to setup raid or other redundancy). This is actually not to bad if you consider using new 400 or 500gig drives, but you will find the changer route cheaper.

Now, for my kids I tend to re-rip their movies at about 2gig max per movie (mostly cartoons, the evil wiggles, etc). They have about 48 disks ripped taking about 126 meg total. (I can live with that!)

Now, there are some nice plugins for the some of the home theater apps that will control those changers over rs232. So you wind up archiving the physical media in the changer (400 disks per) and then using your HTPC to select the movie (get search, cover art, etc) and then queue it up for play.

Bill
 

aplefka

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That's a LOT of DVDs. I don't understand how ripping them would save space though, I mean either way you're gonna need to buy a better storage container.

I would recommend building your own inexpensive shelving.
 
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frankly, a HTPC i think is not practical/possible

if you consider each movie to be 5GB (which is a VERY low estimate), you are looking at 1.5 terabytes of storage for 300 DVD
even a 10GB estimate per movie (considering extras etc.) is realistic and that would be 3.0... i just dont think that is cost effective... you could buy duplicates of all the dvds for cheaper than it would be to amass that kind of storage

i would have to say the only practical solution is the disc changer... or maybe a combination of both. you could put together a large file server (~TB) for a couple hundred discs, and store the remainders in a changer
 

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I'd recommend another storage unit ... for me at least, it was the path of least resistance.

I use a bookshelf that I got at home depot for < $100 .. it is deep enough that I could "double up" on my DVDs. I bought 2 extra shelfs and the verticle spacing is just about perfect. The thing holds 300+ DVDs without doubling the DVDs. Then since that ran out of space, I built some shelving on one of my walls, and stuck all my box sets on it .... freeing up a full shelf of the bookcase for additional movies ... When this runs out, I'll likely use a 200 rack for the ovelflow, or build another bookshelf ... though with limmited space, I understand it's not the best option for everyone.
 

sygyzy

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There's a company that makes a HT device that basically is a IP connected box with multiple hard drives and it stores the full versions of movies in it. Then you can stream/watch it from any room. Well, not a big deal right? Right, but what makes it a big deal is that they have a nice front end that displays movie information and you can search by artist, title etc. I don't think any of the current media center program front ends can do that. Just read folders of VOB's, figure out the movie, and input the data in a database.
 

coolred

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That would be nice sygyzy, but I am pretty sure(maybe not the front ends themselves)there are some apps for the computer that do that stuff as well. I could be wrong, but I am prettys ure I have heard of them before. I know I have all my DVD's liste din DVD profiler right now. Don't think you can play them from there, but it is a nice way to keep them organized.

 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
There's a company that makes a HT device that basically is a IP connected box with multiple hard drives and it stores the full versions of movies in it. Then you can stream/watch it from any room. Well, not a big deal right? Right, but what makes it a big deal is that they have a nice front end that displays movie information and you can search by artist, title etc. I don't think any of the current media center program front ends can do that. Just read folders of VOB's, figure out the movie, and input the data in a database.

Yep. and the base unit (whic isn't large enough for his collection) starts at 26k as I recall...
 

coolred

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Oops, sorry I missed several peopls replies, I saw the penguin for BurnItDwn and thought that was me, and my last reply.


jtvang125, thanks for all that info, thats great.

bsobel, features I wouldn't midn keeping, maybe I can live without them though, the extras at least, the menus would still be nice. Quality matters, but as long as it still looks good on a 27" standar Def TV, then thats fine. I am sure I could compress them somewhat without it being horribly noticeable, right?

aplefka, ripping them or using a changer doesn't technically save space, but it allows me to bow them all up and store them out of the way in a closet, or something, ratehr then having to have them in a storage unit in my living room, taking up living space.

HardcoreRobot, your right, it may not be practical. I don't really need 1 to 1 rips, as long as they look okay, thats fine by me if they are somewhat compressed. Like I said, I can probablly live without the extra features, really all I want to have is the ability to choose the chapter, in case the movie gets stopped by accident or something and we have to restart in the middle. Obviously this can be done with many DVD playing apps. I would just prefer to keep the menu version, since it also tends to have screen caps of that chapter, to make for easier referance.

BurnItDwn, another storage unit is definately the easiest and probablly cheapest route. Although I don't like the bookshelf type of ones, I like to have mine hidden somehow. But I will keep it in mind.
 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: sygyzy
There's a company that makes a HT device that basically is a IP connected box with multiple hard drives and it stores the full versions of movies in it. Then you can stream/watch it from any room. Well, not a big deal right? Right, but what makes it a big deal is that they have a nice front end that displays movie information and you can search by artist, title etc. I don't think any of the current media center program front ends can do that. Just read folders of VOB's, figure out the movie, and input the data in a database.

Yep. and the base unit (whic isn't large enough for his collection) starts at 26k as I recall...


Exactly my point. If we could figure out the front end problem, the rest is easy.
 

coolred

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Buy a couple of me

That would allow me to store the cases, so i will keep it in mind, but I don't know if thats what i want to do or not.


What about MythTV, doesn't it allow for ripping, cataloging and playing of DVD's.
 
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compressing the data can defintely get them to the 5gb mark with marginal loss in quality, but we are still talking like $500 worth of just harddrives for the capacity you need

there are nice cabinets you can buy, this keeps them out of view...

 
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Originally posted by: bsobel
even a 10GB estimate per movie

They aren't gonna be bigger than 9.4gb :)
Well, many movies these days come with 2 discs... but I guess for the ones that ship with WS and FS versions you dont need backups of both :)

another idea... just buy a $20-30 high capacity CD/DVD binder to store the discs. you can put the cases in the closet, and have them alphabetical in the binder to find them easily