Laptops

lemarr

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I have been looking to buy a lap top. But which one. I've been looking at the Sony's and HP's. Not sure about Compaq because I have had trouble with their tech support in the past. Does anyone know of a good site that reviews laptops?

Thanks
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lemarr

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Price range around 1500 to 1800. Never tought about Dell or Gateway. I was just looking around in my local area. I wanted to see the display before I bought one.
 

dcdomain

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Toshiba's are generally very nice, so are the Sony's, but I heard they had heat problems. I can't say I have liked my experiences with any other brand...
 

jaywallen

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I think you have the right idea, lemarr. I'm an old hand with portable computers of all types. (I was using "portables" when they had built-in CRTs and thermal printers and weighed 40 pounds.) There are a lot of excellent notebook computers out there, but the one that will work best for you can best be determined by getting your hands on the hardware before buying it. This is especially true if you are not thoroughly familiar with notebook computer ergonomics. Many people are jumping to buy expensive notebook systems these days, only to find that the form factor they have purchased simply doesn't work for them. I'm a highly adaptable user, and I still occasionally run across a notebook form factor that makes me wonder what the designer was smoking.

This may seem simplistic, but the most important thing for you to do now is to define, as precisely as possible, exactly WHAT TYPES OF WORK you will (or might) be doing with this machine and WHERE YOU WILL BE USING IT. Those two factors will tell you exactly what type of form factor to get. A 10 pound notebook with a 15" UXGA screen is still, IMHO, a viable option for someone who travels a lot. I don't mind lugging the thing with its 30 pounds of paraphenalia all over the planet, but some people would. And a notebook with a 15" screen is not an easy companion to work with when seated in coach class on one of today's sky buses. Key placement and feel, pointing device characteristics, and screen type (passive or active) are at least as important in determining the usability of one of these things as are the memory, hard drive capacities and OS / software. If you have to use a computer in bright light conditions, a passive matrix screen will be absolutely unacceptable. If you will be primarily Web browsing and typing, an SXGA or UXGA screen is a cost you can and should avoid -- not that you're likely to find such a screen in the price range you're suggesting. In darker conditions when dealing only with text, a non-TFT XGA or SVGA screen might work perfectly well. (I only mention it because, if you're like me, once you get ready to buy you'll talk yourself into spending more than you planned.) If you intend to use spreadsheets or deal with complex graphics, you'll need at least an SXGA TFT screen.

BTW, you notice I call these things notebooks. The manufacturers stopped calling them laptops for two good reasons. Many of them are too large for the laps of a significant portion of the population. But the main reason is that they run too hot to hold on your lap. A lap board is a necessity for extended laptop use -- unless you happen to enjoy heat-induced peripheral neuropathy in the anterior portions of your thighs.

Gets your hands on some of these babies and test them out. You're spending at least twice what it would cost to buy a damned fast desktop system. I can guarantee that the notebook you buy won't match the speed. It should at least be comfortable, even pleasurable, to use. My favorites are (some) Toshibas and IBMs and HPs. I think they've done a better job of dealing with comfort and usability issues than OEMs like Gateway and Dell. I currently use a Dell Inspiron 7500 as my personal system. It has a lot of nice features, including relatively high performance for a notebook and an excellent SXGA+ screen (1400 x 1050) that can be read outdoors on the brightest day. But its keyboard is mediocre in layout and feel. And the quality control on the thing's exterior pieces is shockingly bad. This has been universally true of Inspirons of my recent acqaintance, though Latitudes seem a bit better. None of the Dells or Gateways will match the build quality you'll typically see on higher end Toshibas, and almost all HPs and IBMs. If it irks you to have a $5,000 computer that looks like it was made out of cardboard, don't buy a top end Dell or Gateway. The Sonys look marvelous, but I have no idea how well they work.

One last point. Get the system with the OS you want to use pre-installed. I know this sounds stupid, but if you want to use Windows 2000, then buy the system with W2K installed. (Then, when you get it, wipe the disk and install the OS properly -- because you can bet your butt the OEM didn't.) The reason I say this is that driver support is especially critical on portable computers because you cant go directly to a device manufacturer for the drivers in many cases. This is especially true of the video subsystem, since these are often customized by the OEM for use in a particular notebook. You want the OEM to have done its homework on using that computer's devices with the OS you'll be using. Remember, you can't upgrade the video subsystem (or many other components) of a notebook. You at least want to have good driver support for the devices that come with the system.

If there's anything specific you wish to discuss, I'll be glad to try to offer an intelligent opinion on it. (I may have to borrow a few IQ points from someone else, but I'll try.)

Regards,
Jim

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Lord Gwynz

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Hey listen to that guy, lots of good info there :)

Also here's a site that has a lot of good notebook reviews.

Good luck!
 

Feisters

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According to the UPS tracking site, my new Dell Inspiron 8000 is in town, and should be in my greedy little hands tomorrow. For $2300 tax, title, out-the-door, I got:

P3-850
15" UXGA
64 megs ram (another 128 megs coming from Crucial on Tuesday)
20 gig hdd
24x cdr

I'll let everyone know what I think of it. The only reservation I have is getting the 1600x1200 UXGA screen. It's liable to be too much resolution for my needs. And LCD's don't always look so good at non-native resolutions. But, I've read more than a few reviews that said to get the UXGA if you can afford it. I've read that it looks good all the way down to 800x600, and I wanted to be able to have high resolution capability if needed. We'll see.

Incidentally, I ordered a Dell based solely upon online research, as you can't demo one at the retail level. If you decide to go with Dell, you can save a lot of money by: 1) Comparing their small business section versus their home office section. Different deals and savings on a weekly basis. 2) Ordering your system with the minimum amount of ram (usually 64 megs) and ordering additional ram from another vendor. I saved a total of $350 by doing these things.
 

Gepost

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I ordered a Dell this past week. I think it is best if you get a Dell, to call and talk to a salesperson. They can usually do better than what you get on the website. Also, don't pay for support options you don't need. You may not want or need, 4-hour, on-site service, or Complete Care. If I would have had more money to spend, I would have seriously considered a Toshiba or IBM. However, for what you get, especially in software, a Dell is considerably cheaper. Also, I like Dell's on-line support, including forums.
 

SSGTi

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I ordered the dell i4000 last november. So far it's been a great system. Cost me $1150 to my door.

Specs :

c600mhz
128mb (came with 64mb)
14.1 TFT 1024x768
8X DVD
10 gig hdd
Win 2k Pro
 

lemarr

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You have got to love this forum. Thanks everyone for your replys. You have cleared up a lot of things I needed to know. I have deceided on the Sony PCG-FX140. The reason is because I could see it in the store and IMAO it blew the others away in the display area. Now for the rest of it I am not sure how well it will hold up on the reliablity part. I would have liked to seen a Dell but didn't know anyone in my area that had one for me too look at. Again thanks.