My dad wants to buy a laptop and thinks he needs 2.8ghz and 512 DDRram to run Word plus some other very low-intensity programs. He also says he needs the fastest computer to 'load' pictures instantly. Can you guys give me some sort of link that he can read and tell him that he dosen't need such a fast laptop? He dosen't trust me on telling him that such a fast computer would be a total waste of money.
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Well as much as I'd agree with you, I gave up trying to convince some people of this. Intel did a good job in the mhz race, and I say, if the uninformed wish to empty their wallets, so be it.
But this directly affects me and I need to do everything in my power to stop this. He's talking about blowing $3000 which is about $4000 CAD on a laptop to 'load' pictures instantly! WTF?!
He also mentions that the high MHz is for when his laptop becomes obsolete in 5 years, it will still load pictures quickly. I didn't know pictures got harder and harder to 'load' over time. Grr...
He also mentions that the high MHz is for when his laptop becomes obsolete in 5 years, it will still load pictures quickly. I didn't know pictures got harder and harder to 'load' over time. Grr...
I know the advancements in gay porn will increase teh time to 'load' the pictures.
lol, let him get what he wants.
I don't get how it directly affects you? Is it going to take food off of your table?
Does he even really need a laptop? Would a desktop suit him just fine?
lol, let him get what he wants.
I don't get how it directly affects you? Is it going to take food off of your table?
Does he even really need a laptop? Would a desktop suit him just fine?
It directly affects me because now if I ask for anything he'll be like, "Oh we just spent $4000 on a laptop, you'll have to wait a while longer." why the hell should I stand for that when I know he can get a slower laptop and not affect any of his performance speeds on 'loading' pictures. Plus I don't like seeing my parents throw away unneeded money. Not like we live in a mansion or anything and have BMW 7 series' cars in our garage.
well thats a lousy excuse.
Think they won't say that if they spend 3k or 2k on it?
Once again, why are they buying a laptop?
Do they need the laptop functionality?
Because you shouldnt buy laptops unless you NEED portability.
Is this solely for him, or for the family?
Think they won't say that if they spend 3k or 2k on it?
Once again, why are they buying a laptop?
Do they need the laptop functionality?
Because you shouldnt buy laptops unless you NEED portability.
Is this solely for him, or for the family?
Originally posted by: buleyb
got a bigger list of programs he intends to run? I think its time to kick dad's a**
Well, it's not really for him but for my mom but she's really ignorant about computers and has no idea what to get so she turns to my dad but he's just throwing away money to run these low-intensity programs like Word and a realtor program called 'Wave' which allows you to show pictures of houses. He thinks by getting a 2.8ghz computer with 512 DDR ram, it will increase loading speed for a ~300kb file by second buit I'm trying to tell him it's already super fast if he got a 1.8ghz Celeron. Can anyone argue against this?
I would think you only need super fast speeds for games and rendering but he dosen't understand this and thinks the more expensive it is, the better quality all around it is by leaps and bounds. Maybe that's true for certain things, but loading pictures?!
This laptop is mainly for my mom, as mentioned above. He thinks we should get one because it will put my mom on the 'cutting edge' since she can go to clients' homes and have wireless internet access from anywhere (I don't understand this but I'm not going to argue since my knowledge on the subject is limited) so she can access her program to show clients' pictures of homes. Little 200-300kb files that somehow require the top-of-the-line processing speed.
look at like dell.
2.4 intel mp4 with 512
less than 2k.
there best of both worlds. now leave your parents alone, its their money not yours. stop being so selfish.
2.4 intel mp4 with 512
less than 2k.
there best of both worlds. now leave your parents alone, its their money not yours. stop being so selfish.
haha, harse but true...
now onto this wireless anywhere fiasco...
what the hell are you talking about? Is there a wireless network in your city/town, or what?
Sounds like pa is in that place marketers call "heaven"
now onto this wireless anywhere fiasco...
what the hell are you talking about? Is there a wireless network in your city/town, or what?
Sounds like pa is in that place marketers call "heaven"
Why am I being selfish? I'm trying to avoid my parents from buying a computer they will never take full advantage of while I'm on the computer all day and have a crappier system than theirs and all my mom will be doing is loading pictures and starting up Word!
Ya, umm i think that is the definition of selfish. You are upset your mom is getting something you want for yourself. Go out and buy a computer for yourself then.
ge a job.
I don't understand this either. My dad said the guy who would sell him a computer said he could just attach a wireless device to his computer and he could access the Wave network anywhere at anytime. I'm like 'WTF' but I'm not disputing it unless I can prove that I'm right.
Right... and you don't see the irony of this? She'll be using a 2.8ghz computer costing upwards of $3000-4000 CAD for opening Word and loading images lightning fast while I'm here playing games with my bottleneck being my processor. You make a lot of sense.
Like I said, I could accept the purchase if the laptop was used completely but I don't think the above criteria takes advantage of even half the processing speed. Can you prove me wrong?
yeah, I still don't buy into that...
I think some salesclerk is clueless too. Possible? yes, entirely possible. Realistic? Probably not. Where is he going to buy this?
I think some salesclerk is clueless too. Possible? yes, entirely possible. Realistic? Probably not. Where is he going to buy this?
I don't want to be nit-picky here, but thats not ironic, thats just bad luck. Somewhere I hear Alanis singing away...
The same guy who built my computer. Now if this guy wasn't such a scam artist (I gave him a list of parts plus locations to buy them for cheapest value or I could buy them myself but he insisted I not) and charged me $600-700 over what I could have payed if I hadn't gone with him. He did it cleverly too, by over-charging on parts so his fees were hard to discern from the rest of the computer purchase.
I do make a lot of sense. As I explained earlier, for 2.4, 512 laptop from dell it is sub 2k, so you guys are getting ripped off at 3-4k(whatever CAD means). There is no irony to ANY of this. Look up that word. Your mom is going to use this for business so it seems like it is more of an investment for her. You however jsut want to play games.
like I said, get a job and upgrade. Don't cry that mommy and daddy are too busy trying to make money to feed you.
I'm in Canada, CAD stands for Canadian Dollar. It's only a fraction of the USD (U.S. Dollar) therefore we are charged more for the same thing than you guys are.
Are you saying Word requires a 2.4ghz Processor with 512 DDR ram to run with maximum efficiency? That it takes such a powerful computer to load up 200-300kb images? Wow, I guess I was sorely uneducated about computers.
Are you saying Word requires a 2.4ghz Processor with 512 DDR ram to run with maximum efficiency? That it takes such a powerful computer to load up 200-300kb images? Wow, I guess I was sorely uneducated about computers.
jesus...back on topic...
I would say you have a bigger argument about this guy being a scam artist than not buying a $3k laptop. Convince him to look into Dell and avoid the local guy. Also, where do you live? We can find out real quickly if there are any real W-MAN/LANs in your area.
I would say you have a bigger argument about this guy being a scam artist than not buying a $3k laptop. Convince him to look into Dell and avoid the local guy. Also, where do you live? We can find out real quickly if there are any real W-MAN/LANs in your area.
ahhh a canuck. now the 3k - 4k makes more sense. that sounds about (aboot?) right then. what is it 1.60 to 1 now for exchange? anyways actually word is quite a pain to load. maybe 2.4 512 is a lot for that.
Here is what you have to remember:
Your did is partially right about buying for the future. Since it is a laptop, upgrading is a bitch, so you do need to buy witht he future in mind. What if your mom decided to expand her needs of the laptop and then needs to buy a 2.4 in a year? there goes that 2k you saved when you decided on the 1.8 instead. plus i think, buleyb can help on this, that celerons are not the best choice for laptops, due to various reasoning, 1 thing being battery life that will be affected.
bottom line is shop around, use online stores at least for comparisons.
when you do look you will see that the $$ diff between a 2.4 and 1.8 (of same proicessor) is very slight. almost the same as biggie sizing at your local wendy's/.
Here is what you have to remember:
Your did is partially right about buying for the future. Since it is a laptop, upgrading is a bitch, so you do need to buy witht he future in mind. What if your mom decided to expand her needs of the laptop and then needs to buy a 2.4 in a year? there goes that 2k you saved when you decided on the 1.8 instead. plus i think, buleyb can help on this, that celerons are not the best choice for laptops, due to various reasoning, 1 thing being battery life that will be affected.
bottom line is shop around, use online stores at least for comparisons.
when you do look you will see that the $$ diff between a 2.4 and 1.8 (of same proicessor) is very slight. almost the same as biggie sizing at your local wendy's/.
To defend myself against using the term Irony: The defintion of the word, according to dictionary.com is, 'Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.'
I expect to have a better computer than my mom because I use it to the maximum. I use Photoshop occasionally, I play games (Yes, games, what's wrong with that?) and I experiment with other art programs. On the other hand, what shall occur will be my mom getting a more powerful laptop than I have as a desktop and using it for simple things such as Word and loading pictures.
Isn't it expected I have a better computer in this case? I'm not saying I want a better computer but in the years following this will come to haunt me becaue I know there is no reason my dad should spend so much on a computer.
I expect to have a better computer than my mom because I use it to the maximum. I use Photoshop occasionally, I play games (Yes, games, what's wrong with that?) and I experiment with other art programs. On the other hand, what shall occur will be my mom getting a more powerful laptop than I have as a desktop and using it for simple things such as Word and loading pictures.
Isn't it expected I have a better computer in this case? I'm not saying I want a better computer but in the years following this will come to haunt me becaue I know there is no reason my dad should spend so much on a computer.
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