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Section 8 is another one. You cannot tell a perspective tenant that you do not rent to section 8. You have to choose your wording that you "are not setup to accept funds from the section 8 system" Saying that effectively means that you don't take section 8 but it prevents anybody from opening up a discrimination claim against you. You always need to watch your words...



I always just say I chose another tenant (and that is rare for me to have to do) and refuse to discuss the reasons why. Any time I rent a property I set up a new phone number with no name tied to it, and only give the address during a call back. A person's voicemail can show a lot about their education and other issues, so I'm choosy on who I call back. I literally never even say 'section 8', ever.

Basically I'm super careful, and I'll just leave it at that.
 

HeXen

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I would prefer a company that handles rentals as apposed to some guy that owns a house, they tend to not be jerks so long as you pay rent and don't trash the place and they tend to be (from my experience) provide quicker response to fixing things that need it and have it done by professionals.

Nothing worse than a landlord who tries to be cheap or fixes everything himself without knowing wtf he's really doing.
 

alkemyst

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"Restrictions necessary to prevent damage to leased property are permissible, as long as the restrictions are reasonable."


That is all I care about. If a tenant tried to insist on a putting a dish on the roof under the FCC guidelines I would boot them under my landlord termination clause. If it got to that, which it wouldn't, because putting a dish directly on the roof causes damage - period.

Years ago I dealt with this... Someone stuck a dish on the roof, I really didn't push the issue, they moved out and had drilled holes through the shingles and it leaked. It cost me ~$500 to repair, and I didn't know about it until after deposit was refunded.

I let that go, it wasn't worth chasing, but from there on out I specifically tell people that they can't have any installs period... Not phone, not cable, not anything, without myself or my contractor present during install.

It doesn't work that way though, I was coming here to post the FCC.GOV page myself. Saying someone misinstalled a dish doesn't allow you to trump law going forward.

A proper installation will need remediation if the tenant moves out and the dish is to be removed.

This is part of wear and tear the government pushes onto the landlord.
 

88keys

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I always just say I chose another tenant (and that is rare for me to have to do) and refuse to discuss the reasons why. Any time I rent a property I set up a new phone number with no name tied to it, and only give the address during a call back. A person's voicemail can show a lot about their education and other issues, so I'm choosy on who I call back. I literally never even say 'section 8', ever.

Basically I'm super careful, and I'll just leave it at that.


Or just do background and credit checks. I'd be willing to bet that eliminates the majority of section 8 applicants.
 

alkemyst

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I would prefer a company that handles rentals as apposed to some guy that owns a house, they tend to not be jerks so long as you pay rent and don't trash the place and they tend to be (from my experience) provide quicker response to fixing things that need it and have it done by professionals.

Nothing worse than a landlord who tries to be cheap or fixes everything himself without knowing wtf he's really doing.

This is very true. Fortunately the last landlord I had agreed with me to just let me fix things and he allowed me to deduct the costs from my next months rent. My unit was in the best shape out of the rest of them when I moved out. Right prior to that he made me a deal on a rent break to do some maintenance to the unit next door to me. It was a train wreck. The counters had cigarette burns as did the tile floors. The new toilets were both cracked and one sink had the bottom of it broke out (it was new). They even took off the switch plates and ran their own extension cables off them directly. He was ok with painting, I just cleaned up the electrical and some of the mechanical stuff. The real sad part is there was no smoking allowed. These people were sketchy fuckers...they were only there like 3 months. He went to eviction the same month they moved in :( That unit was really nicely done. They also used a sander or wire brush on the flat top range he put in...all the knobs were missing too.

The desk I built in my unit is still being used to this day. He has had 3 tenants and it's always an option he gives if they want it removed.

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People made fun of it here...it was never to be a fine piece of furniture as I wasn't going to be living there long. It was utilitarian and sturdy as hell. Plus it broke up the kitchen/bathroom/dining area from the main living area of the small apartment.

I was a couple blocks from the intercoastal and beach and it cost me only $525 a month :) Outside the one sketchy tenant, the other neighbors are still living there. My unit has been the only one that gets one year leases now. Even the smaller unit next door (total studio about 300 sq ft with the bathroom being the only 'room' and no closets) has had a single teacher in it for the last 7 years.

I haven't seen my landlord in about 6 months (he goes to my dog park), but my rent had only gone from $525 to $675. College girls are usually the tenants in it.
 

alkemyst

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I always just say I chose another tenant (and that is rare for me to have to do) and refuse to discuss the reasons why. Any time I rent a property I set up a new phone number with no name tied to it, and only give the address during a call back. A person's voicemail can show a lot about their education and other issues, so I'm choosy on who I call back. I literally never even say 'section 8', ever.

Basically I'm super careful, and I'll just leave it at that.

WTF is a new phone number for...sounds like you are a sketchy landlord.

Hate to break it to you, but most that have real jobs and incomes aren't going to give you too much info until they see the property to rent.
 

sze5003

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Speaking of rentals I live in an apartment complex that's very picky. But it's a very nice place and they respond to issues immediately as opposed to other places I rented.

Their procedure was you submit an application, if you are accepted...mainly on income, then they show you the place. Haven't had any issues and they are helpful with any complaints. Neighbors are mainly older people but they are nice.
One even knocked on my door to let me know someone was trying to park in a spot where my motorcycle is parked. I have central air and heat, a washer and drier in the bathroom, and I only pay electric. Only downside is it's pretty far from work but I could not afford to live where I work because it's a very rich area.

A lot of landlords are very careful here because many people either trash the place or can't make payments. My friends don't rent from a company, they have single landlords and they always complain about how the landlord doesn't keep the maintenance up or will charge for certain things.
 
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WTF is a new phone number for...sounds like you are a sketchy landlord.

Hate to break it to you, but most that have real jobs and incomes aren't going to give you too much info until they see the property to rent.


I initially filter people based on the voicemail alone, which tells a LOT about the prospective tenant. I learned a long time ago that the crazies will call 20-30 times over a few days, I'm sure you're comfy with it but I don't post my private number for all to see.

If they speak halfway proper english, are coherent and lucid then I call them back and set up a viewing.

After the viewing if all goes well I call back and tell them they are first in line and let's start the credit and income check.


It's extremely effective, I have yet to have a major issue.
 

HeXen

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Too many renters in my town do Section 8, which tends to lead to many areas high in drugs and crime. It's sad I even have to make such a connection but there it is.
 
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Too many renters in my town do Section 8, which tends to lead to many areas high in drugs and crime. It's sad I even have to make such a connection but there it is.


It's just reality. There are some section 8 renters who are good people who just ended up in a bind. What, maybe 10% max.

The other 90% are poor decision makers, which tends to lead to vices. I suppose it's ultimately a lack of self control.
 

alkemyst

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I initially filter people based on the voicemail alone, which tells a LOT about the prospective tenant. I learned a long time ago that the crazies will call 20-30 times over a few days, I'm sure you're comfy with it but I don't post my private number for all to see.

If they speak halfway proper english, are coherent and lucid then I call them back and set up a viewing.

After the viewing if all goes well I call back and tell them they are first in line and let's start the credit and income check.


It's extremely effective, I have yet to have a major issue.

People aren't crazy when they are looking for the place they want to live.
 

Spungo

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I always just say I chose another tenant (and that is rare for me to have to do) and refuse to discuss the reasons why. Any time I rent a property I set up a new phone number with no name tied to it, and only give the address during a call back. A person's voicemail can show a lot about their education and other issues, so I'm choosy on who I call back. I literally never even say 'section 8', ever.

Basically I'm super careful, and I'll just leave it at that.

Email is another good indicator of brain function. Stupid people have atrocious writing.

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I wonder if this guy is Section 8:

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alkemyst

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Clearly you have only been on the renter side of the equation.


I have rented 4 times, owned 2 homes. Renting is less than half my homeownership.

No bro. My parents have been renting property since before I was born.

My mom's mom, owned a place on Cortez Ave that is right behind the hotel that the movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054469/

You can see that place in the main characters window.

They have had some craptastic tenants.

In around 1968 or so, when my dad was in the Vietnam War (he was stationed in Seattle as an MP/Dog handler guarding missile bases). He came home to find his tools missing and some of his weight set missing. They also burned carpeting/counters/tables and ruined the appliances.

The place I stayed at during a bad time in my life was nice around 30ish The next tenant came with 3 kids. He had a good job, good credit. The previous references were very good. His last reference was awesome.

The kids hit teenage years and that sap couldn't control them. The damage wasn't really major, but against the lease at first. Once my dad told them to move out the place got trashed.

Holes in drywall, missing stuff, etc.

There really is no reason for a landlord to hide their phone number.
 

alkemyst

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What's up, Alk? Doing well, I hope.

K bro, I always do well. Second thing, I am not sure if you thinking S.C. in your location scares me.

I don't really know you.

If you are trying to threaten me, please speak up; buttercup.
 

alkemyst

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Alky I thought you were in the great land of florida?

I am in Florida. I drove up to S.C. to take my lover out of her broken home and her two kids.

Everyone is happy now.

If you are trying intelligence, just look me up. I have never hid here. Nor in real life.
 

highland145

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K bro, I always do well. Second thing, I am not sure if you thinking S.C. in your location scares me.

I don't really know you.

If you are trying to threaten me, please speak up; buttercup.
We're really nice around here and we keep the banjo music to a minimum.
 

Uppsala9496

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In around 1968 or so, when my dad was in the Vietnam War (he was stationed in Seattle as an MP/Dog handler guarding missile bases). He came home to find his tools missing and some of his weight set missing. They also burned carpeting/counters/tables and ruined the appliances.
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Way off topic, and not to be a total dick, but if your old man was stationed stateside he DID NOT serve in the Vietnam war.
 

NetWareHead

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The place I stayed at during a bad time in my life was nice around 30ish The next tenant came with 3 kids. He had a good job, good credit. The previous references were very good. His last reference was awesome.

The kids hit teenage years and that sap couldn't control them. The damage wasn't really major, but against the lease at first. Once my dad told them to move out the place got trashed.

Holes in drywall, missing stuff, etc.

That's a strike for me, a potential tenant having young children. When I learn that children are in the equation, I keep up the search...
 

alkemyst

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Way off topic, and not to be a total dick, but if your old man was stationed stateside he DID NOT serve in the Vietnam war.

Well when you start off a topic 'not to be a total dick', you have to know you are.

Just because he was stationed in Seattle at the time, doesn't mean he did not serve in the war. He was drafted and later deployed stateside.

dick.