Land Rover Vs Motorbikes in NYC

[ch33zw1z]

Apparently it is as evidence in this video.

Just take your beating. Hope you don't die or severely injured.

bah, child's play compared to the hardcore neighborhood where your at.

 

[Svnla]

Obviously, some of you haven't read the story yet tried to blame the victim so let me help.

Biker(s) was the one that started the confrontation:

Lien suddenly struck one of the motorcycles when its rider cut him off and hit the brakes,

hundreds of others as part of an annual ride from Brooklyn to Times Square — swerve in front of Lien’s SUV just before the accident.

The victim did stop but was afraid for his/family member safety:

Lien stopped, but “feared for his safety” as several of the bickering bikers began to damage his SUV.

SUV — which sources said had a slashed tire — and one of the bikers tries to open the door,

If this was not attempt murder/felony assault then I don't know what it is:

the bikers beat the driver up and slashed his face and chest.

Others agreed:

Several commenters wrote that the driver was justified to flee.
“I would do exactly the same thing,” one person wrote. “They’re intimidating him and he’s probably fearing for his life.”

Any further blame the victim will not be neccessary.

 

[Schfifty Five]

i would have done everything the range rover did. but the second that dudes helmet smashed into my window i would have used deadly force, especially when i have my wife and child in the car.

And it would be completely justifiable. The only downside would be that there were dozens of those d-bags and the moment you step out to fight back, you'll most likely get jumped.

Seriously hope some of them get prison time for this.

 

[KlokWyze]

0:15
Edit: I guess what I'm saying is that there definitely were troublemakers in the group, probably a few. There probably are a bunch of non-aggressors too. Sucks for those who got hurt for their buddies being idiots.

I have exactly zero sympathy for the "innocents" traveling around with a pack of cunts like this. Anyone who is friends with scum that attacks innocent people in public because they can is a fucking idiot that deserves to get run over by Range Rover. Twice.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

I dont understand the point of what they're doing...riding in packs. I suppose the answer is "because its fun"? Doesnt look like fun to me. But anyways, it should be outlawed.

Riding in groups is a lot of fun and definitely isn't a problem if done responsibly. These guys are lunatics though, I have no idea why you think it is a cool idea to brake check anyone, especially when you are a motorcycle. Getting rear ended by a car is just about as bad as it gets when riding a motorcycle.

When watching the video, I missed the beginning and just saw the guy plow through a bunch of mysteriously stopped bikes. As a motorcycle rider myself I found myself rooting for the bikers until I understood what was happening.

Also I really have to get a GoPro.

 

[Via]

If I'm in that situation, and I try to drive away from the confrontation, and get followed by a mob of bikers who's capacity for violence and murder I know nothing about, I'm going to find the first safe place to do a quick turn, and then I going to duck as far behind the dash as I safely I can.

And then we're going to play some chicken.

I'm not going to let myself get dragged out of my car and get beaten to death. I'll go down in flames before I let that happen.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I interpreted "monkeys" to mean non-WASP's. anyone else wanna take a stab at it?

It looks like the majority of the bikers are non-black (likely tanned white people or Hispanics), so I doubt that. Pack behavior is one of the most vile remnants of our animalistic past, and these bikers are absolutely sub-human.

 

[Mide]

This would be getting more attention if beaten driver was not asian.

 

[SampSon]

lol.

Hope the bikers get hurt, then raped.

 

[Ns1]

This would be getting more attention if beaten driver was not asian.

Sad but true

 

[BoomerD]

This would be getting more attention if beaten driver was not asian.

Oh hell...that's different. It was the driver's fault...everyone knows Ornamentals can't drive...()🙂

(edit...added video proof)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkZ4VW7HM4I

 

[QueBert]

I have exactly zero sympathy for the "innocents" traveling around with a pack of cunts like this. Anyone who is friends with scum that attacks innocent people in public because they can is a fucking idiot that deserves to get run over by Range Rover. Twice.

These bikers weren't all "friends" when I was in HS I hung out with about 50 dudes and we all rode our BMX's together. I knew maybe 20 of them, and of those I'd say only half well enough to know what kind of person they were. I was familiar with maybe 10 of the others, but had no clue the kind of people they were. And the rest I only recognized because I rode around the park with them. They could have been Charles Manson types for all I know.

The dudes in this video who did the chasing and tried to attack him, fuck em all. But I'm not going to shit on the rest who didn't do anything just because they were riding with them that day.

 

[Broheim]

any responsible adult would have known to remove himself from the pack after the initial confrontation, phoned the police and let them handle it. Any of the drivers left at the scene deserved everything they got and so much more.

if there really was a god, a big rig would have blown a tire, locked the brakes and taken out the remaining pack out.

 

[Thebobo]

I interpreted "monkeys" to mean non-WASP's. anyone else wanna take a stab at it?

Loll not touching that

 

[Broheim]

What most likely happened what the SUV driver endangered the bikers earlier on. Probably did something really unsafe and arrogant. That's usually why bikers get upset. Car drivers driving stupid or reckless makes the car a weapon.

They wouldn't have slowed him down for no reason at all. Doesn't even look like a break check just that they were all stopping the SUV. You'd be shaken up and upset too if someone had prior endangered your life. People get killed constantly from clueless or reckless car drivers. Of course the riders were bothered by what ever the SUV guy did. If someone had done something that almost killed you or your friends you would too.

They would not have stopped him otherwise. Then he used his SUV as a weapon and assaulted them. Well of course you're going to follow him when he tries to flee the scene. He could have killed someone. Honestly it needs to happen more when people endanger others life on the road. Will be the last time they do it. The SUV driver really got off easy for what he did.

Any type of close call on a motorcycle can mean you almost lost your life. And just a second or foot difference and you could have died. After something like that happens and you were near getting killed from some fool in a car not paying attention or risking your life let me tell you the adrenaline gets going.

yeah clearly these upstanding citizens were in the right slashing up a man's face in front of his wife and child...

if this is how you would react in a similar situation then I hope you get shot over it.

 

[Murloc]

lol if someone drives badly but not illegally you go defensive and certainly don't try to stop him with a brake check and then attack his vehicle.

 

[takeru]

Did you even bother to watch the video? One of the bikers stopped in front of the vehicle for no reason to start the sequence of actions. The SUV driver did NOT purposely chase down the bikers to run over them. The bikers were the ones that attacked him and his family. Do you see the big difference?

He had the right to defense himself and love ones, well, at least down here in the free states that allow non criminals to do so.

yes, i watched the video. and your logic is still nonsense. you keep speaking as if the suv driver would be the ONLY one with a gun if it was a free state. the bikers started beating the suv at the start. how about if guns were involved? how about instead of beating on the suv, they just shoot it up instead. do you think the bikers really cared or not? now you have a dead suv driver, wife, and baby. what then? at least the suv driver defended himself and went down standing his ground? your one-sided views sure make sense.

 

[yuchai]

These bikers weren't all "friends" when I was in HS I hung out with about 50 dudes and we all rode our BMX's together. I knew maybe 20 of them, and of those I'd say only half well enough to know what kind of person they were. I was familiar with maybe 10 of the others, but had no clue the kind of people they were. And the rest I only recognized because I rode around the park with them. They could have been Charles Manson types for all I know.

The dudes in this video who did the chasing and tried to attack him, fuck em all. But I'm not going to shit on the rest who didn't do anything just because they were riding with them that day.

I get that, but if you watch the video the whole gathering itself is causing some very significant disruption to the roadways. So yeah, even the non-aggressors do not gain sympathy from me. If anything, they were there to help enable the mob mentality that caused the whole thing.

 

[Svnla]

yes, i watched the video. and your logic is still nonsense. you keep speaking as if the suv driver would be the ONLY one with a gun if it was a free state. the bikers started beating the suv at the start. how about if guns were involved? how about instead of beating on the suv, they just shoot it up instead. do you think the bikers really cared or not? now you have a dead suv driver, wife, and baby. what then? at least the suv driver defended himself and went down standing his ground? your one-sided views sure make sense.

I rather have it, take my chance, and able to defend my life/loves ones than being assault/beat up bloody like that driver but hey it is just me and million and million of other US citizens in free states like me. I don't expect you and others like you to understand but that is ok.

Cockroaches like those bikers only prey on the weak or the perceived to be weak. They would run away like cockroaches that they are when the victims fight back with deadly force.

 

[HumblePie]

These bikers weren't all "friends" when I was in HS I hung out with about 50 dudes and we all rode our BMX's together. I knew maybe 20 of them, and of those I'd say only half well enough to know what kind of person they were. I was familiar with maybe 10 of the others, but had no clue the kind of people they were. And the rest I only recognized because I rode around the park with them. They could have been Charles Manson types for all I know.

The dudes in this video who did the chasing and tried to attack him, fuck em all. But I'm not going to shit on the rest who didn't do anything just because they were riding with them that day.

Did you not see the other videos posted by the same guy? They started out earlier that day and all they did the entire ride well before meeting up with that SUV was break all laws and cause mayhem. Most were without plates on their bikes. BIG red flag there. Even if I brought my bike out to be part of the ride along, which happens here, the moment I saw tons of people there without plates I would have left. As a RESPONSIBLE adult that isn't looking to cause pain and suffering to others that would have been the proper thing to do from the get go. I would also have been calling the cops immediately on them for being on the public roadways in an unlicensed motor vehicle.

But say I was completely blind to the missing plates. I was in my own little happy world by being so excited for the ride along. Once it started going and I saw how many others were running red lights, stop signs, running into on coming traffic, riding up on sidewalks and TRYING to scare pedestrians off them. I would have stopped right then and there. You do realized for most of the ride along before the SUV HUNDREDS of these idiots were breaking all sorts of traffic laws. Running through red lights, driving at pedestrians, running stop signs. Running directly at oncoming traffic in games of chicken and making those oncoming motorists get into accidents as they swerve to avoid the bikers.

There is ZERO excuse for the behavior of ANY of those riders by the time they meet up with that SUV. All of them by that point are assholes. ALL OF THEM! Any responsible adult or "innocent" person would have left that ride along a long time ago. They are all culpable in the outcome that happened. And any that gave chase to the SUV after it sped away are all guilty of attempted murder.

 

[Nintendesert]

yes, i watched the video. and your logic is still nonsense. you keep speaking as if the suv driver would be the ONLY one with a gun if it was a free state. the bikers started beating the suv at the start. how about if guns were involved? how about instead of beating on the suv, they just shoot it up instead. do you think the bikers really cared or not? now you have a dead suv driver, wife, and baby. what then? at least the suv driver defended himself and went down standing his ground? your one-sided views sure make sense.

That's a better option than the SUV driver that they attempted to kill and then immobilized so he couldn't defend his family and they were at the mercy of a gang of criminals in a mob fueled frenzy.

He already tried to flee, they prevented that. They cornered him in a situation he couldn't get out of. What is your solution to that situation other than rolling over and hoping they don't kill you and your family? They left him face down in the street in a pool of his own blood after the knife attack.

Do you pray a lot or just wish upon a star? I'm really curious.

 

[takeru]

That's a better option than the SUV driver that they attempted to kill and then immobilized so he couldn't defend his family and they were at the mercy of a gang of criminals in a mob fueled frenzy.

He already tried to flee, they prevented that. They cornered him in a situation he couldn't get out of. What is your solution to that situation other than rolling over and hoping they don't kill you and your family? They left him face down in the street in a pool of his own blood after the knife attack.

Do you pray a lot or just wish upon a star? I'm really curious.

and you are assuming he would have even gotten that far just because he had a gun. lets just say he did manage to get away that first time because he surprised the bikers by pulling out a gun. lets say all the bikers following him are now pissed and have guns. how do you think this will end now? guns are not the end-all solution. look at how many bikers followed the suv. lets say both sides had guns. once that suv is stopped in traffic and a shootout takes place, you will have people dead/critically hurt on both sides. yeah, that's much better now. i am not for or against guns, but guns are not the answer to every situation.

I rather have it, take my chance, and able to defend my life/loves ones than being assault/beat up bloody like that driver but hey it is just me and million and million of other US citizens in free states like me. I don't expect you and others like you to understand but that is ok.

Cockroaches like those bikers only prey on the weak or the perceived to be weak. They would run away like cockroaches that they are when the victims fight back with deadly force.

lol sure they will.

 

[Nintendesert]

and you are assuming he would have even gotten that far just because he had a gun. lets just say he did manage to get away that first time because he surprised the bikers by pulling out a gun. lets say all the bikers following him are now pissed and have guns. how do you think this will end now? guns are not the end-all solution. look at how many bikers followed the suv. lets say both sides had guns. once that suv is stopped in traffic and a shootout takes place, you will have people dead/critically hurt on both sides. yeah, that's much better now. i am not for or against guns, but guns are not the answer to every situation.



lol sure they will.

How would you have handled that situation he was in?

 

[Vdubchaos]

Here is what I think about this whole ordeal.

A) Bikers are complete idiots
B) guy in SUV was in an unfortunate situation that involved these idiots and did his best to get away from them.

I would've probably called police while on the road and stayed on the highway though.......

What SUV driver did was not right HOWEVER, I would do the same under those circumstances.

 

[Svnla]

lol sure they will.

I rather take the 50% chance of fighting back than the 100% chance of being assault/bloody beaten up/stab by knives.

What would you do?

a) Fight back by any mean neccesary

b) Bend over and take it and then take it some more