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Land Rover Vs Motorbikes in NYC

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You are arguing semantics here.

The bottom line is that a bicyclist who wants fair use of the road pays far FAR less in 'vehicle use' taxes compared to a driver (or motorcyclist, for that matter).



Yet they want special, and now 'protected' bike lanes? 🙄
 
SpatiallyAware said:
My comments are directed more at bicyclists in general than you specifically.


Protected bike lanes?? You mean like a wall between the lane and the road? Jesus when does it end? Just turn roads into bike paths and get it over with.


Again.... I don't care if it's merely a matter of painting a stripe down the road, the bikes need to be tagged and taxed if they truly want to "share" the roadway...

Personally, my biggest issue is that they need to have tags, so people can call 911 when they're being jackasses and wreaking havoc on the roads.

I could not care less about what works in europe.
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Pedestrians and cyclists also pay taxes.

Protected bike lanes can be as simple as moving car parking out from the curb and installing some plastic bollards between the car parking and new bike lane. Really just shifting space around to make it work better for everybody. Other variations are even better an minimize conflicts by even further separating modes.

I'm not opposed to cycle registration as a principle.
 
Brainonska511 said:
The damn taxes I pay - sales taxes, city income taxes, and other NYC taxes. Where the hell else is it going to come from?
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Motor vehicle registration, along with things like safety inspections/emission inspections, are what generate tax revenue ALONG with other forms of revenue generation for the roads. Even in NY, the motor vehicles on the road are ALL registered at least once a year. That registration is an additional tax which helps funds the roadways. Regular bicyclists do not have to register their bikes, in any place I know of in the US, but are allowed equal access to the roadways in most places. A person can be without a car, but still use the roadways with a bike. Such a person would be basically paying LESS in taxes for the same equal access. When such a person then demands they have special roadway area built for them can you not see how illogical that sounds?

Here is the simple scenario.

Person A pays taxes X and Y for access to the road.
Person B only pays tax X. Has the same access to the road as person A and then demands that person A also pay for special access for them as well.
 
spidey07 said:
Should have just run them over. You can use your car as a weapon in self defense, just keep saying "he was attempting to forcibly enter my occupied vehicle".

As far as shooting the dirtbags? The moment they touched my window it would have been good shoot.
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You're trying too hard these days.
 
K1052 said:
Pedestrians and cyclists also pay taxes.

Protected bike lanes can be as simple as moving car parking out from the curb and installing some plastic bollards between the car parking and new bike lane. Really just shifting space around to make it work better for everybody. Other variations are even better an minimize conflicts by even further separating modes.

I'm not opposed to cycle registration as a principle.
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Awesome, great. If the tard wearing bicyclists would stop vagina blocking bike registrations then there would be plenty of dedicated funding for plastic whatevers and lanes.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Awesome, great. If the tard wearing bicyclists would stop vagina blocking bike registrations then there would be plenty of dedicated funding for plastic whatevers and lanes.
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Exactly, retrofitting roads to make them even more accommodating for a the smallest portion of roadway users, of which don't even pay for registration to use the roadways, is not exactly a cost effective provision for anywhere. I DO like bike lanes and have an extra painted strip added to a new roadway when it's being made doesn't add really anything to the cost. However, redoing old roadways is just not so simple a thing to do, nor cheap.
 
also agree about the guy running them over. i don't care if a man, woman, or child was on one of those, they deserve to be worm dirt for acting like that.
 
What if that SUV driver was carrying a gun?! AND they were in Florida?!?
 
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lozina said:
Totally disagree. It's not fortitude it's common sense and the thing about common sense is it comes natural to you, you don't have to stop and think about it. You either have it or you don't.
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yeah you do that when people are trying to break in window and you have a wife and infant in the car. In his situation, what exactly would you have done differently?
 
Forget about bike lanes. In NYC, they can start by actually fixing roads so that they are at least in decent condition and not like those in 3rd world countries.
 
Bikers are a bunch of tools. Hogging the entire road, then getting all butt hurt when the Land Rover says: "I'm fuckin' outta here bitches"

Revoke all their licenses.
 
These are the kinds of threads that really make me laugh to myself when someone here asked what was the point of having a dash cam.

It is also yet another argument for autonomous vehicles, but why have free flowing formation driving, when you can have this, and your freedom*?

* The constitutional right to pilot low speed artillery at each other in a society that caters to "I am the most important"
 
If I was in that situation with my wife in the car you bet there would have been a shit ton of bits of bikers and bikes all over that road. I hope they round them all up and send them all to prison.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
The ones getting run over are the 'innocents'. It's the ones beside and behind the SUV that are attacking the driver.
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When you are a part of the mob that is committing violent crime, as that mob was doing do the SUV, they need to either stop or vacate the area. Staying around adds to the threat as the person in the SUV has no idea if those "innocents" are going to join in as well or not.

The guy in the range rover did absolutely nothing wrong in this instance.
 
I was impressed with the capability of the Range Rover to ride over those motorcycles and riders.

That's one hell of a vehicle. :thumbsup:
 
SpatiallyAware said:
You are arguing semantics here.

The bottom line is that a bicyclist who wants fair use of the road pays far FAR less in 'vehicle use' taxes compared to a driver (or motorcyclist, for that matter).

Yet they want special, and now 'protected' bike lanes? 🙄
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As a driver and motorcyclist I'm okay with that. Where do I sign?
 
HumblePie said:
When you are a part of the mob that is committing violent crime, as that mob was doing do the SUV, they need to either stop or vacate the area. Staying around adds to the threat as the person in the SUV has no idea if those "innocents" are going to join in as well or not.

The guy in the range rover did absolutely nothing wrong in this instance.
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Definitely agree with this.
 
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