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Lance Armstrong to confess to doping in an upcoming interview with Oprah Winfrey

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One thing to keep in mind is that the probability of developing testicular cancer increases in men who abuse PEDs. Whether Lance was cheating before he developed testicular cancer remains, as far as I know, unknown. And it can't be known whether PED use contributed to his development of testicular cancer. But at this point, I don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
 
Lash444 said:
Not only that, but I thought I heard a long time ago that pre-cancer Lance was middle of the road in terms of performance.
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No, he's always been a very talented athlete. No denying that.

According to what I have read, he was taking PEDs prior to the cancer diagnosis as well. So how can anyone, besides Lance himself, say what his baseline for performance is
How can anyone say with any certainty how good PEDs will make any individual athlete?
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The top pro cyclists are really all very close together in terms of absolute performance so even a 5% advantage gained through PEDs is a huge advantage.

When everyone of the winners of the cycling events were all doping, its pretty obvious dope trumps all.

You don't think that at least one non-doper got screwed over because he just couldn't compete against the meds?
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Non-dopers and dopers with fewer resources than Lance. He was spending more every year on his "program" than the average pro would make over the course of their career. Pro cycling is an extremely top-heavy sport in terms of salary so the "haves" tended to stay that way because they had the resources to stay ahead of the curve. This means "everyone else" had very little chance to get a big result or two that would mean a fatter contract down the road.
 
Gigantopithecus said:
One thing to keep in mind is that the probability of developing testicular cancer increases in men who abuse PEDs. Whether Lance was cheating before he developed testicular cancer remains, as far as I know, unknown. And it can't be known whether PED use contributed to his development of testicular cancer. But at this point, I don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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Honestly not worth debating, IMHO. Testicular cancer is a younger man's disease and I personally know three people who have had it who were defintely not doping.
 
randomrogue said:
What does his cancer thing really have to do with the cheating? Yes he had cancer. Yes he was a cyclist who cheated. Those are two separate things.

The cancer thing is a whole different problem. I'm not familiar with what he did besides sell bracelets and collect most of the money from that.
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He could've have got cancer from all the steroids he was taking.
 
Fausto said:
Honestly not worth debating, IMHO. Testicular cancer is a younger man's disease and I personally know three people who have had it who were defintely not doping.
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It's definitely worth Oprah asking, and we'll know immediately it was a soft-ball interview if she doesn't ask.
 
dainthomas said:
Komen for the Cure only donates 15% to research.

Waiting for the thread where you call them out.
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Really? I'm pretty sure I used to give money to them through my work. Where they the one that had that huge celebrity party at one of the Hollywood studios? They had awesome parties.

Where's the rest go though?
 
dainthomas said:
Komen for the Cure only donates 15% to research.

Waiting for the thread where you call them out.
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"The organization's 2011 financial statement reports that 43 percent of donations were spent on education, 18 percent on fund-raising and administration, 15 percent on research awards and grants, 12 percent on screening and 5 percent on treatment. (Various other items accounted for the rest."

secondly, I'll bet you Susan Komen hasn't blackballed and ruined the careers of her competitors, sued media outlets for millions for apparently reporting the truth and promoted drug use amongst her colleagues while calling everyone against them lying whores.
I don't even really give a flying fuck about Komen, what I do give a shit about is cycling. I'm an amateur racer and have always been. my daughter is now too. I don't like having kids think it's ok to dope and that's the only way to win.
Lance is and always has been a shitty human being, and just because he raises money for a good cause doesn't change that fact.
 
randomrogue said:
Really? I'm pretty sure I used to give money to them through my work. Where they the one that had that huge celebrity party at one of the Hollywood studios? They had awesome parties.

Where's the rest go though?
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I guess I was off on the 15% figure. According to Wiki, 40% goes to public health education, 20% to research, 20% to screening/treatment, and 20% to administrative/fundraising. Another fun fact I stumbled on is that they spend 1 million/year on suing other groups/events with "for the cure" in the name.
 
momeNt said:
What the fuck is education? People don't know breast cancer exists? Sounds like just a money siphon.
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The "education" part isn't telling people that breast cancer exists. It's educating people to be able to recognize the signs of breast cancer, e.g. self exams, and going in for professional screenings. You're not really that stupid, are you?
 
Gigantopithecus said:
The "education" part isn't telling people that breast cancer exists. It's educating people to be able to recognize the signs of breast cancer, e.g. self exams, and going in for professional screenings. You're not really that stupid, are you?
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You're trying to tell me that 40% of all they get goes into pamphlets, billboards, and commercials? Money siphon.
 
I've had a bunch of friends die from Breast Cancer. You'd be surprised how important education is. For some reason women just don't recognize the tell tale signs or choose to ignore them until they have stage 4 cancer and are inches from death.

If you ever get a chance to go to their annual fund raiser I'd really do it. I think it was like $2500 a head but it was all the food, alcohol, and entertainment you could ask for. Was a ton of fun.
 
Lance Armstrong is a Piece of dogshit, and i'm not even talking about the doping:

6. What do you say to Emma O'Reilly, who was a young Dublin native when she was first hired by the U.S. Postal team to give massages to the riders after races?
In the early 2000s, she told stories of rampant doping and how she was used to transport the drugs across international borders. In the USADA report, she testified that you tried to "make my life hell."
Her story was true, Lance, wasn't it? And you knew it was true. Yet despite knowing it was true, you, a famous multimillionaire superstar, used high-priced lawyers to sue this simple woman for more money than she was worth in England, where slander laws favor the famous. She had no chance to fight it.
She testified that you tried to ruin her by spreading word that she was a prostitute with a heavy drinking problem.
"The traumatizing part," she once told the New York Times, "was dealing with telling the truth."
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7. In 2011, former teammate Tyler Hamilton spoke about you and doping on "60 Minutes." He later said you two ran into each other in a Colorado restaurant where he says you tried to intimidate him, saying, "I'm going to make your life a living hell both in the courtroom and out of the courtroom."
Yet you knew he was telling the truth, right Lance? So why threaten him?
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8. Greg LeMond, a three-time Tour de France champion, once raised the following hypothetical question: "If Lance's story is true, it's the greatest comeback in the history of sport. If it's not, it's the greatest fraud."
The allegation is that you heard that and decided to use your influence with Trek bikes to drop its association with LeMond's brand. The company even went to court to end a long-term contract. "Greg's public comments hurt the LeMond brand and the Trek brand," a company official said at the time.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/questions-oprah-should-ask-lance-armstrong-230849439.html
 
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