TOTALLY AGREED!!!
jeez theypractically BOUGHT the championship..
if the spurs actually beat the lakers (where they ALMOST did), would be such sweet justice
TOTALLY AGREED!!!
jeez theypractically BOUGHT the championship..
if the spurs actually beat the lakers (where they ALMOST did), would be such sweet justice
CubicZirconia
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God forbid someone actually take a paycut to play with talented players and try to actually win. The honorable thing to do would have been to play for whatever team would give them the most bling bling. Seriously, why does everyone hate on Payton and Malone when people join good teams all the time looking to win. What about Cassell and Sprewell signing with the Wolves? Did they do that for any reason other than a desire to win?
its called buying a championship...
jeez, let me think, Ive been with this team years and years and still havent got a ring yet.. sooo what do I do?? oh yeah, lets make a team that has 4 superstars in it... ok I will take a paycut, coz I want the ring sooo baddd and I want to have a record winning a nba championship....
IMO malone's ring will not be worth as much as other people's rings..
payton's too
also, why would we stop here? why wouldnt a team hire like 6 superstars?? or even 10? if a team has 10 superstars in it, dont u think its a GIVEN that they will win the championship??
CubicZirconia
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First off all, the Lakers haven't won anything yet. Second of all, Gary Payton and Karl Malone won't give a damn what you think about it if they get a ring. The fact is that you could say every team is trying to "buy a championship." Teams sign good players to try and win. That's how the NBA works, so get over it.
And I'm a Twolves fan.
Edit: Also the NBA has a little thing called the salary cap so a team can't hire 10 stars.
Uh, the people whining about "buying" a championship need to be shot. If the Lakers win this year, THEY HAVE EARNED IT. Considering all of the injuries they have had all season they still came out on top in the Pacific through hard work and determination. They never gave up. This was confirmed in this Lakers-Spurs series. The Lakers worked hard and climbed out of a 0-2 hole to beat the defending champs in 6 games. It doesn't matter if they have 2 or 4 superstars, they worked hard and are getting results. Plus, it's not like Malone and Payton have propelled this team to an 82 win season or anything, so quit whining.
yes the lakers havent won anything yet.. but I predict that they will after they get over the spurs. Not every team can BUY the championship, because what you said, each team has a salary cap. But Lakers is BUYING the championship, or should I say malone and payton are buying the championship, since they are taking HUGE paycuts.
if the lakers didnt have payton and malone this year, chances of them beating the spurs will be extremely small. So yes that does come into factor.
the regular season is moot, all what matters is in the playoffs. Is any of the 4 stars absent during the playoffs? no.
JulesMaximus
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Man, the way the first two games went I thought the Spurs were going to win this series. Great games though. I'm glad the Lakers won!
GO LAKERS!!!
GO LAKERS!!!
So if Payton and Malone had gone to the spurs with a paycheck, would you hate the spurs? What about going to the Kings? They have superstars in Webber (although I don't like him), Stoya (best shooter now), the league's best 6th man, and an allstar Brad Miller coming off the bench? Would you hate them so? Or if they'd gone to the wolves to team up with Garnett, Sprewell and Cassell?
They all have the same salary cap and the same chance to get players. Yes, what is stopping a team from getting 10 superstars? If its so damn easy, why don't we see any teams with so many? How come the lakers only have 4? Why don't they just fill their bench with duncan, marbury, kidd, and Stoya while they're at it?
yes I would hate the spurs if that does happen. well, I will hate payton and malone first..
Actually I dont hate the lakers as a whole team, I just dont like their 4 stars.
do you see my point? if this becomes a trend, then the NBA will just start handing championship rings to old stars that doesnt have a ring yet. Old stars will just take a pay cut during some years, and then go to a team that has a good palyers in it, just to win a ring. This is like what barkley did, albeit unsuccesfully when he join the rockets
edit: also webber and stoja combined are no match for shaq and kobe. webber sucks IMO... I used to like him, but now he just sucks..
Well, I feel better knowing a star gets a ring rather then some bench warmer on a good team gets a ring. More to come later. I have to cut my reply short because I gotta take the woman to go see Troy. I'll be back in 3 hours.
The obvious solution is when great players become free agents they need to only look for mediocre teams to sign with. If they sign with a good team it is obvious they care more about winning than anything else.
the lakers didn't buy anything, the spurs chocked plain and simple. they blew a 2-0 lead in the series. They stuck with their one plan of attack and didn't change it even though phil jackson figured out what they were doing and modified the lakers game strategy.
the spurs choked plain and simple. They played excellent bball in the 1st 2 games but were too stagnate the last 4 which is why they lost the series.
In this last game they were shooting terribly, if they actually made some baskets they might not have lost.
And as far as payton and malone being stars:
http://www.nba.com/lakers/stats/index.html
http://www.nba.com/spurs/stats/index.html
Ginobili and Turkoglu match up to them in many of the stats pretty evenly, and duncan and parker match up to shaq and kobe. It was a pretty evenly matched game, but the lakers simply played better.
now lets hear some more crying from you.
the spurs choked plain and simple. They played excellent bball in the 1st 2 games but were too stagnate the last 4 which is why they lost the series.
In this last game they were shooting terribly, if they actually made some baskets they might not have lost.
And as far as payton and malone being stars:
http://www.nba.com/lakers/stats/index.html
http://www.nba.com/spurs/stats/index.html
Ginobili and Turkoglu match up to them in many of the stats pretty evenly, and duncan and parker match up to shaq and kobe. It was a pretty evenly matched game, but the lakers simply played better.
now lets hear some more crying from you.
um, so when Manny Ramirez tells the Red Sox owners that he will give up his own money (in other words taking a pay cut), to resign Pedo Martinez, then Manny and the Red Sox should be hated for trying to purchase a world series (regardless of how large their actual payroll is).
None of your reasoning makes sense. Why should a good player have to stay on his crappy ass team with management that isn't dedicated to winning, when he can go sign with a good team, accept a lesser role, and have a better chance at winning the championship? The goal of sports is to win championships, it doesn't matter how you get there.
Like Marcus Allen said, there has never been a winner declared on press day. Yes, the Lakers have 4 hall of famers. Two of them are incredibly aged and Tony Parker showed that Payton isn't the leagues top stopper anymore. A lot of teams beat them this season, it's not like their invincible. The Lakers are winning because Kobe Bryant, yes that man that has been with the Lakers his entire career, stepped up his game when it mattered most.
None of your reasoning makes sense. Why should a good player have to stay on his crappy ass team with management that isn't dedicated to winning, when he can go sign with a good team, accept a lesser role, and have a better chance at winning the championship? The goal of sports is to win championships, it doesn't matter how you get there.
Like Marcus Allen said, there has never been a winner declared on press day. Yes, the Lakers have 4 hall of famers. Two of them are incredibly aged and Tony Parker showed that Payton isn't the leagues top stopper anymore. A lot of teams beat them this season, it's not like their invincible. The Lakers are winning because Kobe Bryant, yes that man that has been with the Lakers his entire career, stepped up his game when it mattered most.
the spurs didnt choke. plain and simple: this series was decided on one shot like last years series was decided on one miss
DanTMWTMP
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hehe let zomb13 cry a river.
let's just be happy the lakers won, and laker haters are upset. I'm really happy that they are upset, and all we have to say is.."what what? who won bitch? who won?"
does it matter how they won and what not or what players they have? in this world, results matter the most. And payton and malone sacrificed A LOT just to have results.
yeah keep crying zomb.
you can cry all you want, complain all you want. In the end, us laker fans are happy, and you're not. And since you keep complaining about this and that, it makes us more happy that you're upset.
LAKERS WON
SPURS GOT OWNED.
end of story. BYE.
let's just be happy the lakers won, and laker haters are upset. I'm really happy that they are upset, and all we have to say is.."what what? who won bitch? who won?"
does it matter how they won and what not or what players they have? in this world, results matter the most. And payton and malone sacrificed A LOT just to have results.
yeah keep crying zomb.
you can cry all you want, complain all you want. In the end, us laker fans are happy, and you're not. And since you keep complaining about this and that, it makes us more happy that you're upset.
LAKERS WON
SPURS GOT OWNED.
end of story. BYE.
lakers actually had 16 point lead.. and they BLEW IT! so if someone choked, lakers did that game
of course thats not what i'm saying. both teams who won game five won the series in the past two years and when all was said and done AFTER THE OTHER 47 and X SECONDS WAS PLAYED, the game was decided by one shot
if the spurs hadn't choked soo badly in games 3 and 4 then the game 5 buzzer beater wouldn't have mattered so much but that still doesnt say anything about the poor shooting in game 6.
your just pissed cause the spurs squandered a huge 2 game lead in the series and the lakers came from behind to win. on espn i believe they said thats it only been done 4 times in the history of the nba and 2 of the times it was the lakers. the last one with jerry west and this one with kobe bryant
DanTMWTMP
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hehe when i looked @ shady's post count i went "oh crap i'm going up against a lifer..i'm such a n00b against someone like that..i have no say in the argument!!! 
i lose automatically " ..then i saw the date he joined and his ppd...
:Q :Q :Q :Q
you insane mofo...
anyways, yeah the lakers did choke in game 5 and got away with it....and yeah the team w/ the most guts and heart and calm won at the final minute after a full 47 minutes of back-and-forth play.
but i'm happy that lakers got the final shot in the end though heh..
i lose automatically " ..then i saw the date he joined and his ppd...:Q :Q :Q :Q
you insane mofo... anyways, yeah the lakers did choke in game 5 and got away with it....and yeah the team w/ the most guts and heart and calm won at the final minute after a full 47 minutes of back-and-forth play.
but i'm happy that lakers got the final shot in the end though heh..
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