Lakers Andrew Bynum out for 8-12 weeks

[dougp]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: pray4mojo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The Lakers had championship hopes this season?

If they manage to win the west they'll still have to play either the Celts, Cavs, or Magic in the finals. It's highly doubtful they can best any of those teams in 7, Bynum or not.

Where were you last year?

LOL. If you are insinuating that the eastern conference is better than the western conference, then you are crazy.

Wouldn't it be nice if you only had 3 legitimate teams in your conference? This fact alone raises the a lot of concerns about how good these teams really are.

The Suns are in 8th place in the western conference, with the Utah Jazz right behind them in 9th place.

Milwaukee is 8th place in the eastern conference, with the NEW YORK KNICKS behind them in 9th! If that doesnt give you EPIC LULZ, I dunno what does. Seriously, that is some funny shit.

It's not the teams, it's the records. Both of the EC teams you mentioned have good players, just no chemistry. It's pathetic that there are sub .500 teams in the EC in playoff contention and people with .500 records out in the WC.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: pray4mojo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The Lakers had championship hopes this season?

If they manage to win the west they'll still have to play either the Celts, Cavs, or Magic in the finals. It's highly doubtful they can best any of those teams in 7, Bynum or not.

Where were you last year?

LOL. If you are insinuating that the eastern conference is better than the western conference, then you are crazy.

Wouldn't it be nice if you only had 3 legitimate teams in your conference? This fact alone raises the a lot of concerns about how good these teams really are.

The Suns are in 8th place in the western conference, with the Utah Jazz right behind them in 9th place.

Milwaukee is 8th place in the eastern conference, with the NEW YORK KNICKS behind them in 9th! If that doesnt give you EPIC LULZ, I dunno what does. Seriously, that is some funny shit.

there are 4, maybe 5 teams with a legit chance to win it all.
3 of the 4/5 are in the east.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: pray4mojo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The Lakers had championship hopes this season?

If they manage to win the west they'll still have to play either the Celts, Cavs, or Magic in the finals. It's highly doubtful they can best any of those teams in 7, Bynum or not.

Where were you last year?

LOL. If you are insinuating that the eastern conference is better than the western conference, then you are crazy.

Wouldn't it be nice if you only had 3 legitimate teams in your conference? This fact alone raises the a lot of concerns about how good these teams really are.

The Suns are in 8th place in the western conference, with the Utah Jazz right behind them in 9th place.

Milwaukee is 8th place in the eastern conference, with the NEW YORK KNICKS behind them in 9th! If that doesnt give you EPIC LULZ, I dunno what does. Seriously, that is some funny shit.

there are 4, maybe 5 teams with a legit chance to win it all.
3 of the 4/5 are in the east.

LOL, you are including the magic in there right? The team that has lost to the Phoenix Suns (8th in Western Conference) and the Dallas Mavericks (6th in Western conference)? Riiiiiight.

Teams with a Legit Chance:
Spurs, Hornets, Lakers, Magic, Celtics, and Cavaliers. And I feel like im being pretty nice including the Magic and the Cavs in that talk. They have shown that they aren't good enough to hang with the elite in the west.

Have fun sitting in your "Eastern conference ROXORS" bubble. The only reason that the east will win it is because its basically a cakewalk to the finals for any elite team in the eastern conference.

 

[OCGuy]

KB24MVP droppin bombs on MSG!

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: pray4mojo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The Lakers had championship hopes this season?

If they manage to win the west they'll still have to play either the Celts, Cavs, or Magic in the finals. It's highly doubtful they can best any of those teams in 7, Bynum or not.

Where were you last year?

LOL. If you are insinuating that the eastern conference is better than the western conference, then you are crazy.

Wouldn't it be nice if you only had 3 legitimate teams in your conference? This fact alone raises the a lot of concerns about how good these teams really are.

The Suns are in 8th place in the western conference, with the Utah Jazz right behind them in 9th place.

Milwaukee is 8th place in the eastern conference, with the NEW YORK KNICKS behind them in 9th! If that doesnt give you EPIC LULZ, I dunno what does. Seriously, that is some funny shit.

Have you even watched a Suns game this year? They look nothing like they used to you - that's a bad example.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: pray4mojo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The Lakers had championship hopes this season?

If they manage to win the west they'll still have to play either the Celts, Cavs, or Magic in the finals. It's highly doubtful they can best any of those teams in 7, Bynum or not.

Where were you last year?

LOL. If you are insinuating that the eastern conference is better than the western conference, then you are crazy.

Wouldn't it be nice if you only had 3 legitimate teams in your conference? This fact alone raises the a lot of concerns about how good these teams really are.

The Suns are in 8th place in the western conference, with the Utah Jazz right behind them in 9th place.

Milwaukee is 8th place in the eastern conference, with the NEW YORK KNICKS behind them in 9th! If that doesnt give you EPIC LULZ, I dunno what does. Seriously, that is some funny shit.

Have you even watched a Suns game this year? They look nothing like they used to you - that's a bad example.

I AM a Suns fan. I've watched every game this year. Its actually a perfect example of how the Magic aren't who everyone thinks they are. The lowly suns can beat the "elite" Magic.

EDIT: It also shows that the Suns, who are in 8th place, would EASILY beat both 8th and 9th place in the eastern conference. Hell they could probably do pretty well against #7 and #6 in the eastern conference too.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: pray4mojo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The Lakers had championship hopes this season?

If they manage to win the west they'll still have to play either the Celts, Cavs, or Magic in the finals. It's highly doubtful they can best any of those teams in 7, Bynum or not.

Where were you last year?

LOL. If you are insinuating that the eastern conference is better than the western conference, then you are crazy.

Wouldn't it be nice if you only had 3 legitimate teams in your conference? This fact alone raises the a lot of concerns about how good these teams really are.

The Suns are in 8th place in the western conference, with the Utah Jazz right behind them in 9th place.

Milwaukee is 8th place in the eastern conference, with the NEW YORK KNICKS behind them in 9th! If that doesnt give you EPIC LULZ, I dunno what does. Seriously, that is some funny shit.

there are 4, maybe 5 teams with a legit chance to win it all.
3 of the 4/5 are in the east.

LOL, you are including the magic in there right? The team that has lost to the Phoenix Suns (8th in Western Conference) and the Dallas Mavericks (6th in Western conference)? Riiiiiight.

Teams with a Legit Chance:
Spurs, Hornets, Lakers, Magic, Celtics, and Cavaliers. And I feel like im being pretty nice including the Magic and the Cavs in that talk. They have shown that they aren't good enough to hang with the elite in the west.

Have fun sitting in your "Eastern conference ROXORS" bubble. The only reason that the east will win it is because its basically a cakewalk to the finals for any elite team in the eastern conference.

How are the Magic not good enough? They've swept both the Spurs and the Lakers already this season. If you want to pick anecdotal losses, geez, the Lakers lost to the Bobcats and the Pacers, 2 rather lowly teams in the east. Let's compare the record of the top teams in the east vs. the west as well. Let's consider the records of of the cellar dwellers in each conference too. Overall, the east is better than the west this year. The west is weighted down with teams with aging players whereas there's lot of fresh, young blood in the east. The advantage the west used to have no longer holds and believing the west to still be the stronger conference is outdated thinking.

 

[actuarial]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

LOL, you are including the magic in there right? The team that has lost to the Phoenix Suns (8th in Western Conference) and the Dallas Mavericks (6th in Western conference)? Riiiiiight.

Teams with a Legit Chance:
Spurs, Hornets, Lakers, Magic, Celtics, and Cavaliers. And I feel like im being pretty nice including the Magic and the Cavs in that talk. They have shown that they aren't good enough to hang with the elite in the west.

Have fun sitting in your "Eastern conference ROXORS" bubble. The only reason that the east will win it is because its basically a cakewalk to the finals for any elite team in the eastern conference.

The Magic have beaten the Spurs (twice), Hornets and Lakers (twice). The have one remaining against the hornets.

The Cavs have split with the Hornets, and lost away to the Lakers. They still have their home match with the Lakers (unbeaten at home), and have yet to play the Spurs.

These teams can't hang with the best in the West?

And trotting out two bad teams that a team has lost to doesn't prove anything. I can do the same thing with every top team in the west.

 

[actuarial]

Also, the East is winning the series against the West this year (there's still a lot of games left to play though).

 

[cheezy321]

East top 8:
Boston
Cleveland
Orlando
Atlanta
Miami
Detroit
Philadelphia
Milwaukee

West Top 8:
LA Lakers
Spurs
Denver
Portland
New Orleans
Houston
Dallas
Phoenix

Ok, I will say that the top half is a little stronger in the east than the west.

But you would seriously take the Miami Heat (EPIC LULZ), the Pistons, the 76ers and the Bucks over The Hornets, Rockets, Mavericks, and Suns? Wow man, just wow.

 

[PaNsyBoy8]

with jameer nelson out with a dislocated shoulder, there goes the magic's season.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: PaNsyBoy8
with jameer nelson out with a dislocated shoulder, there goes the magic's season.

Mo Williams probably hit him with a crowbar cus he was pissed about the all-star snub.


Oh and GO SPURS!!!

 

[actuarial]

Originally posted by: cheezy321
East top 8:
Boston
Cleveland
Orlando
Atlanta
Miami
Detroit
Philadelphia
Milwaukee

West Top 8:
LA Lakers
Spurs
Denver
Portland
New Orleans
Houston
Dallas
Phoenix

Ok, I will say that the top half is a little stronger in the east than the west.

But you would seriously take the Miami Heat (EPIC LULZ), the Pistons, the 76ers and the Bucks over The Hornets, Rockets, Mavericks, and Suns? Wow man, just wow.

The only problem with this is you're saying the entire strength of a conference lies in the 5-8 spots. Would you rather take the West bottom 7 or the East bottom 7? How about the top 4?

Edit: for epic brain fart

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: cheezy321
East top 8:
Boston
Cleveland
Orlando
Atlanta
Miami
Detroit
Philadelphia
Milwaukee

West Top 8:
LA Lakers
Spurs
Denver
Portland
New Orleans
Houston
Dallas
Phoenix

Ok, I will say that the top half is a little stronger in the east than the west.

But you would seriously take the Miami Heat (EPIC LULZ), the Pistons, the 76ers and the Bucks over The Hornets, Rockets, Mavericks, and Suns? Wow man, just wow.

Why did you decide to stop at 8? iirc, each conference has 15 teams and any indication of how strong a conference is overall should consider all teams.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: pray4mojo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The Lakers had championship hopes this season?

If they manage to win the west they'll still have to play either the Celts, Cavs, or Magic in the finals. It's highly doubtful they can best any of those teams in 7, Bynum or not.

Where were you last year?

LOL. If you are insinuating that the eastern conference is better than the western conference, then you are crazy.

Wouldn't it be nice if you only had 3 legitimate teams in your conference? This fact alone raises the a lot of concerns about how good these teams really are.

The Suns are in 8th place in the western conference, with the Utah Jazz right behind them in 9th place.

Milwaukee is 8th place in the eastern conference, with the NEW YORK KNICKS behind them in 9th! If that doesnt give you EPIC LULZ, I dunno what does. Seriously, that is some funny shit.

there are 4, maybe 5 teams with a legit chance to win it all.
3 of the 4/5 are in the east.

LOL, you are including the magic in there right? The team that has lost to the Phoenix Suns (8th in Western Conference) and the Dallas Mavericks (6th in Western conference)? Riiiiiight.

Teams with a Legit Chance:
Spurs, Hornets, Lakers, Magic, Celtics, and Cavaliers. And I feel like im being pretty nice including the Magic and the Cavs in that talk. They have shown that they aren't good enough to hang with the elite in the west.

Have fun sitting in your "Eastern conference ROXORS" bubble. The only reason that the east will win it is because its basically a cakewalk to the finals for any elite team in the eastern conference.

first off, i never said anything about ec > wc.

you're telling me teams can't have off nights?
the knicks beat the celtics (and your beloved suns), so there goes your retarded argument.

you suck at t3h basketball analyzing.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: actuarial

Originally posted by: cheezy321
East top 8:
Boston
Cleveland
Orlando
Atlanta
Miami
Detroit
Philadelphia
Milwaukee

West Top 8:
LA Lakers
Spurs
Denver
Portland
New Orleans
Houston
Dallas
Phoenix

Ok, I will say that the top half is a little stronger in the east than the west.

But you would seriously take the Miami Heat (EPIC LULZ), the Pistons, the 76ers and the Bucks over The Hornets, Rockets, Mavericks, and Suns? Wow man, just wow.

The only problem with this is you're saying the entire strength of a conference lies in the 5-8 spots. Would you rather take the West bottom 6 or the East bottom 6? How about the top 4?

To be honest, if we had to line up #1 vs #1 here is how it would go:
Boston vs. Lakers
Cleveland vs. San Antonio
Orlando vs Denver
Atlanta vs. Portland
Miami vs. New Orleans
Detroit vs. Houston - iffy on this one
Philly vs. Dallas
Milwaukee vs. Phoenix

Top to bottom the west is better than the east. If the playoffs started RIGHT NOW, teams #1 - 4 on the eastern conference would have a cakewalk to get to the second round. Only team worth anything in the bottom 8 of the east is the pistons, and with the cancer that is Allen Iverson I only see it getting worse there.

 

[KingGheedora]

Sucks for the lakers, because he was just starting to be really good again. Most of the season they've gotten by without a lot of production from him, so they should still be able to make it to the finals. The Lakers also have a healthy Ariza now, something they didn't have during the playoffs or finals last year.

 

[PaNsyBoy8]

Originally posted by: KingGheedora
Sucks for the lakers, because he was just starting to be really good again. Most of the season they've gotten by without a lot of production from him, so they should still be able to make it to the finals. The Lakers also have a healthy Ariza now, something they didn't have during the playoffs or finals last year.

The Lakers made it to the finals with this same lineup minus Ariza, one of their best defenders and now a huge contributor. They should be able to make it there again, espically since the top teams from last year seemed to have dropped quite a bit, hornets not getting great seasons from west and chandler, spurs getting a bit older (but they do have a healthy manu), the jazz with an injured deron williams and carlos bozer, the rockets...well, they are the rockets.

I don't think that the journey will be easy, but they should be able to make it. Its just sad that Bynum was finally getting back into form and now they lose him. I did read that it was a Grade 2 MCL tear which could possible mean that he'll be back sooner, but we'll have to wait and see.

As for the top east teams, the biggest threat to the lakers would be the cavs, while the celtics still have the same 3 trio and now with rondo coming out and playing like an all star, their starters are tough to beat, but the team drops dramatically after that. The Cavs on the other had have had a great run espically with two of their starters out. Big Z is back and west should be back in a few weeks. The team is also very deep and getting a lot of production out of their bench players.

This should make for a pretty exciting 2nd half of the NBA season and playoffs.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: pray4mojo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The Lakers had championship hopes this season?

If they manage to win the west they'll still have to play either the Celts, Cavs, or Magic in the finals. It's highly doubtful they can best any of those teams in 7, Bynum or not.

Where were you last year?

LOL. If you are insinuating that the eastern conference is better than the western conference, then you are crazy.

Wouldn't it be nice if you only had 3 legitimate teams in your conference? This fact alone raises the a lot of concerns about how good these teams really are.

The Suns are in 8th place in the western conference, with the Utah Jazz right behind them in 9th place.

Milwaukee is 8th place in the eastern conference, with the NEW YORK KNICKS behind them in 9th! If that doesnt give you EPIC LULZ, I dunno what does. Seriously, that is some funny shit.

Have you even watched a Suns game this year? They look nothing like they used to you - that's a bad example.

I AM a Suns fan. I've watched every game this year. Its actually a perfect example of how the Magic aren't who everyone thinks they are. The lowly suns can beat the "elite" Magic.

EDIT: It also shows that the Suns, who are in 8th place, would EASILY beat both 8th and 9th place in the eastern conference. Hell they could probably do pretty well against #7 and #6 in the eastern conference too.

I'm not saying the Suns match up poorly against the low seeds in the East, I'm just saying they aren't an impressive team. The post I was replying to seemed to imply that the West is impressive because the Suns are the #8, but that doesn't really prove your point.

 

[dbk]

The Suns won't go anywhere until they fire Terry Porter. He's a terrible coach.

 

[cheezy321]

Bumping this for two reasons. One to say that all of those who think the east is so impressive, here is a great quote by Chad Ford of ESPN.com

SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:15 PM ET ) So much for the East catching up to the West this year. It's going to take around 48 wins to make the playoffs in the West. You'll be able to get into the East playoffs with a losing record.

So who still thinks the eastern conference as a whole is better than the western conference?

 

[JS80]

why do they have east vs west finals anyway? shouldn't it be the 2 best teams?

 

[GrantMeThePower]

Originally posted by: cheezy321
Bumping this for two reasons. One to say that all of those who think the east is so impressive, here is a great quote by Chad Ford of ESPN.com

SportsNation Chad Ford: (1:15 PM ET ) So much for the East catching up to the West this year. It's going to take around 48 wins to make the playoffs in the West. You'll be able to get into the East playoffs with a losing record.

So who still thinks the eastern conference as a whole is better than the western conference?

Whats the second reason?

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: JS80
why do they have east vs west finals anyway? shouldn't it be the 2 best teams?

Why does the NFL have an AFC and NFC conference championship? Why does MLB have a National League and an American League? Why does hockey have an east and west?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: JS80
why do they have east vs west finals anyway? shouldn't it be the 2 best teams?

Why does the NFL have an AFC and NFC conference championship? Why does MLB have a National League and an American League? Why does hockey have an east and west?

lol that's what i'm asking. what's the answer?