Lagunitas falls to corrupt corporatism

[norseamd]

Lagunitas is now engaging in IP warfare in the craft brewery industry.

Most shameful.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...nst-sierra-nevada-after-public-backlash.shtml

 

[Uppsala9496]

Shouldn't this be past tense. WAS.

According to the article the suit was dropped.

 

[norseamd]

http://www.guysdrinkingbeer.com/lagunitas-political-contributions

 

[JM Aggie08]

Lagunitas > SN.

I do not, however, support such a petty case...which has apparently been dropped.

 

[Fingolfin269]

At least they agreed to drop it. Still... come on man.

 

[pauldun170]

Lagunitas - Over rated
Whenever I make the mistake of buying some I end up regretting it.

 

[preslove]

Lagunitas > SN.

I do not, however, support such a petty case...which has apparently been dropped.

NOPE

 

[JM Aggie08]

NOPE

All day, bitch.

 

[Fingolfin269]

All day, bitch.

Actually, Founders makes the All Day IPA.

 

[preslove]

All day, bitch.

Not only is SN not a sue happy bitch of a company, but it has a better selection of beers. Their porter is excellent and doesn't have some stupid flavoring like cocoa or vanilla.

 

[preslove]

Actually, Founders makes the All Day IPA.

And it's much better than lagunitas IPA...

 

[JM Aggie08]

At the end of the day, I couldn't care less, because Karbach > *.

 

[PricklyPete]

And it's much better than lagunitas IPA...

Neither of which can touch Stone Enjoy By.

 

[pauldun170]

2 years ago I was on a Founders kick. 2014 was the year of Dogfish.
Time to start picking up random brews again.
Just polished off a nice Barley wine from Brooklyn Brewery

 

[zinfamous]

All Lagunitas makes is slight iterations of their same shitty IPA.

 

[Chapbass]

Go figure, its about IPAs, the shit-piss of the craft beer industry. HAY GUYS, HOPS! ugh.

Oh, Lagunitas all the way, SN sucks. Stone isn't much better.

/flamesuit

 

[ControlD]

Go figure, its about IPAs, the shit-piss of the craft beer industry. HAY GUYS, HOPS! ugh.

Oh, Lagunitas all the way, SN sucks. Stone isn't much better.

/flamesuit

Can't flame what I agree with. Easy to make + hard to drink = IPA.

 

[JM Aggie08]

FTFY

 

[Chapbass]

FTFY

Thanks bro/sis! You saved me the trouble!

 

[zinfamous]

Go figure, its about IPAs, the shit-piss of the craft beer industry. HAY GUYS, HOPS! ugh.

Oh, Lagunitas all the way, SN sucks. Stone isn't much better.

/flamesuit

why would you prefer Lagunitas over SN, then? All they make is IPAs with different names. It's the same damn beer with a slight tweak.


Sierra is probably the only long-standing craft company that has maintained it's general style and quality--strong hop profile, certainly--and all within classic styles that retain their central identity, and without watering down and cheapening up their recipe as have all the other brewers that have been around with them. Red Hook and New Belgium come to mind.

I don't drink Sierra that often, but I admire them because they have been thoroughly consistent for so long.

 

[Chapbass]

why would you prefer Lagunitas over SN, then? All they make is IPAs with different names. It's the same damn beer with a slight tweak.


Sierra is probably the only long-standing craft company that has maintained it's general style and quality--strong hop profile, certainly--and all within classic styles that retain their central identity, and without watering down and cheapening up their recipe as have all the other brewers that have been around with them. Red Hook and New Belgium come to mind.

I don't drink Sierra that often, but I admire them because they have been thoroughly consistent for so long.

Okay, sucks was a strong term. Sure, I admire SN as a company, definitely. I just haven't found anything SN that I've really liked. Part of that could be that theres a MUCH stronger presence of Lagunitas in Chicago than SN (mainly because of the giant brewery that just opened here). Lagunitas Pils is very good (and a huge seller here in Chicago), and their stout isn't too shabby either (though I wouldn't go out of my way to take it over, say, Left Hand). Lil Sumpin Sumpin isn't bad for an IPA, and thats saying something for me.

 

[Sukhoi]

Lagunitas is now engaging in IP warfare in the craft brewery industry.

Most shameful.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...nst-sierra-nevada-after-public-backlash.shtml

This is from a week or two ago. :\ The fact that they started and then dropped the lawsuit within a day shows they have some serious management issues. Their taproom is awesome, but after this fiasco my bottle purchases are going to drop significantly.

 

[Regs]

Isn't bold lettering the universal intent to emphasize a word? Isn't IPA a category of beer? Put them together, I don't see it unique enough to trademark.

 

[norseamd]

http://www.beeradvocate.com/communi...nfringement-of-words-ipa-on-packaging.247315/

 

[norseamd]

Fuck this shithole.

Lagunitas also is worried the confusion could lead consumers to think it is entering into a collaboration with Sierra Nevada. Sierra Nevada has led the craft industry in collaborations with other breweries, most recently in its “Beer Camp Across America” promotion last summer. Bottled beers were released amid a seven-city beer festival tour to promote the opening of Sierra Nevada’s North Carolina facility. The collaborators included Santa Rosa’s Russian River Brewing Co. Magee has been an ardent opponent against craft-beer collaborations because he contends it could devalue his brand.


“I think that collaborations can lead to confusion,” Magee said.


The suit raised a similar issue. “Particularly given this reputation for collaboration with other brewers, and based on the obvious similarities to the Lagunitas ‘IPA’ Family of Trademarks, there exists a great likelihood that consumers mistakenly will believe that the ‘Hop Hunter IPA’ is a collaboration with Lagunitas, and thereby, sponsored or approved by Lagunitas,” the suit reads.

Magee himself has been at the center of such disputes before. In 2013, Lagunitas dropped any future use of the term “420,” slang for marijuana, on its label after Sweetwater Brewing Co. of Atlanta noted it had a pale ale on the market with the same name.


A year earlier, Magee was successful in getting Knee Deep Brewing Co. in Placer County to drop the label design of its IPA beer because it resembled Lagunitas. Knee Deep disputed the claim and changed the design and the name to “Batch 138” after Magee agreed to pay the cost of the change.