Lady PWND...PSA: Don't screw with judges.

alkemyst

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Lady has a history of making trouble for people, she was on parole for it at the time of the incident. Since she has no property or family here they consider her a flight risk.

Peanut Island is a popular hangout...it's not rare to see women without tops esp now that it's not illegal. However, being a family spot as well most keep this amongt secluded areas or near their boats rather than the beach.

Story:
No bail for woman accused of taping judge
By SUSAN SPENCER-WENDEL

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 20, 2007

DELRAY BEACH ? A woman accused of illegally taping Circuit Judge Richard Wennet talking about breasts and posting it on YouTube has spent 42 days in jail since her arrest on the charges.

And a judge Wednesday ruled that is where Julie A. Domotor shall remain.

County Judge Steven Deluca of Broward County denied granting the 41-year-old bail, citing the fact it was her second violation of probation on another misdemeanor case. Domotor was on probation for a criminal mischief case when she was arrested last month after Wennet learned of his YouTube appearance. Deluca also cited the fact that Domotor has no family or property to tie her to Palm Beach County in denying her bail.

Domotor testified at the bail hearing that she feared being in jail because an ex-boyfriend who was abusive to her has a father who works at the jail. She said that she was not a flight risk nor threat to anyone. Domotor testified she had no ill will toward Wennet, that they were an intimate couple years ago. "I did not know we had an adversarial relationship," she said.

In addition to her violation of probation case, Domotor faces felony charges of unlawful interception and disclosure of communications, crimes rarely prosecuted in Palm Beach County, attorneys say.

The video shows Wennet on a weekend outing at Peanut Island, in a crowd of people in bikinis and board shorts. It appears to be taken surreptitiously, shot at the hip, not focussed on his face. In the 41/2-minute clip, Wennet is baited by a woman to comment on a topless woman not in the frame. Wennet talks of the "nice breasticals" and how he appreciates the joys of reconstructive surgery. Twice he jokes, "Where is law enforcement when you need them?"

The video is no longer posted on YouTube.

Domotor, a former U.S. Marine, was arrested Aug. 2 at work at an online travel agency in Delray Beach and was bonded out of jail. Then came the violation of probation charge and a trip back.

The law gives judges discretion to hold a person "no-bond" for violating probation, attorneys say.

Domotor was serving a year of probation after pleading guilty to criminal mischief in January. In that case, she was accused of slashing the convertible top on a boyfriend's Jeep.

At the bail hearing Wednesday, her defense attorney, Richard Keith Alan II, questioned the detective who arrested Domotor. Alan asked about statements the detective made to Domotor, including saying she was playing a "tough girl."

Deluca wondered aloud the reason for that line of questioning.

"It suggests a level of animus that shouldn't be there," Alan said.

Wennet, who is divorced, is a circuit criminal judge presiding over felonies such as murder and drug cases. He presided over the murder case against Nathaniel Brazill, the student who shot teacher Barry Grunow, sentencing the teen to 28 years in prison.

Because of his role in local criminal justice circles, the governor appointed the Broward County judge and a prosecutor from the Treasure Coast, Assistant State Attorney Erin Kirkwood. An assistant public defender from Palm Beach County, though, Cherry Grant, is expected to represent Domotor in the felony case.

It is illegal in the state of Florida to record a person's voice without the person's knowledge and consent, but the law says there must be a reasonable expectation of privacy. The expectation of privacy while partying on Peanut Island could come into question.



 

waggy

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Sweet! Abuse of the legal system by a judge!

This country is run by thugs.

yeah it does look like that.
 

alkemyst

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man people don't understand crap.

Waggy in the other thread you were all for tasering someone from the get go. Are you on any side of things consistantly?

Anyway. The judge is not the same judge that was filmed, however; he was not out of line in what he had done. The lady is a repeat offender, was on parole at the time of the other incident, and owns nothing that can keep her here (I don't think people know what bail really is about).

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
man people don't understand crap.

Waggy in the other thread you were all for tasering someone from the get go. Are you on any side of things consistantly?

Anyway. The judge is not the same judge that was filmed, however; he was not out of line in what he had done. The lady is a repeat offender, was on parole at the time of the other incident, and owns nothing that can keep her here (I don't think people know what bail really is about).

are you retarded or just stupid?

i have never been for tazering from the get go. IF someoen resist arrest and fights then yes. it is far safer then a bill y club, force etc.


 

crystal

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Don't mess up while you are on probation.
Base on the story - it seems she wants to set him up for something. Too bad it got back fire.
 

Finality

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alkemyst
man people don't understand crap.

Waggy in the other thread you were all for tasering someone from the get go. Are you on any side of things consistantly?

Anyway. The judge is not the same judge that was filmed, however; he was not out of line in what he had done. The lady is a repeat offender, was on parole at the time of the other incident, and owns nothing that can keep her here (I don't think people know what bail really is about).

are you retarded or just stupid?

i have never been for tazering from the get go. IF someoen resist arrest and fights then yes. it is far safer then a bill y club, force etc.

How is video taping someone and putting the video on a website illegal?

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Finality
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alkemyst
man people don't understand crap.

Waggy in the other thread you were all for tasering someone from the get go. Are you on any side of things consistantly?

Anyway. The judge is not the same judge that was filmed, however; he was not out of line in what he had done. The lady is a repeat offender, was on parole at the time of the other incident, and owns nothing that can keep her here (I don't think people know what bail really is about).

are you retarded or just stupid?

i have never been for tazering from the get go. IF someoen resist arrest and fights then yes. it is far safer then a bill y club, force etc.

How is video taping someone and putting the video on a website illegal?

and why you quoteing me? i never said it was.



and the article says why it is. a person has a right to privacy. quesiton come sup though what expectation of privacy do you have on a beach?
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Finality
How is video taping someone and putting the video on a website illegal?

The quote above your's answers this.

Also the guy is a judge which also carries it's own protections. There is a reason photogs need releases for subjects. If you simply have someone in the frame while filming a disaster probably not...if the person is you main subject then yes.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: waggy

are you retarded or just stupid?

i have never been for tazering from the get go. IF someoen resist arrest and fights then yes. it is far safer then a bill y club, force etc.

Just trying to figure out your stand on things. In one thread you talk about shooting cats in your neighborhood...in another you say you don't even have a gun. Then you speak about how a tazer is safe and how you can't really subdue someone that is not cooperating with you, but I don't thnk you have any training in such matters.

Still the judge in this case is not in the wrong over holding this woman, she is getting what she needs.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: waggy

are you retarded or just stupid?

i have never been for tazering from the get go. IF someoen resist arrest and fights then yes. it is far safer then a bill y club, force etc.

Just trying to figure out your stand on things. In one thread you talk about shooting cats in your neighborhood...in another you say you don't even have a gun. Then you speak about how a tazer is safe and how you can't really subdue someone that is not cooperating with you, but I don't thnk you have any training in such matters.

Still the judge in this case is not in the wrong over holding this woman, she is getting what she needs.

tazing is for when the person is fighting or has a weapon. BUT to do 10 times is insane and abuse. the kid in florida was fighting and refuisng to do what asked. the cops were right to tazer him (for less then a second) then put him in handcuffs.

is it safe? well a hell of a lot safer then a billy club or trying to use just manpower.

And yes as i said in other threads i do have training. I spent nearly 20 years in wrestling and a few years in martial arts.

Am i a expert? no but i do know how fucking hard it is to control someone without resorting ot tactics that will break bones or joints (wich again teh cops try not to do).

I have given my experiance, what is yours on trying to keep someone down?


as for this case. i don't know. it sure does look like an abuse. but she does have a past. personally i would like more information.

 

MrDudeMan

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I agree alkemyst. People are jumping to conclusions about the legal system but didn't even really read the OP. The woman deserves it imo.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: waggy
tazing is for when the person is fighting or has a weapon. BUT to do 10 times is insane and abuse. the kid in florida was fighting and refuisng to do what asked. the cops were right to tazer him (for less then a second) then put him in handcuffs.

is it safe? well a hell of a lot safer then a billy club or trying to use just manpower.

And yes as i said in other threads i do have training. I spent nearly 20 years in wrestling and a few years in martial arts.

Am i a expert? no but i do know how fucking hard it is to control someone without resorting ot tactics that will break bones or joints (wich again teh cops try not to do).

I have given my experiance, what is yours on trying to keep someone down?

2 years high school wrestling, 7 years martial arts, part time security at events. Not my current job or activity...this was about 10 years ago+ now. Back then we didn't have tasers and pepper spray easily available. You just learned things that keep people going where you want them to. Based on your comments though I find it hard to believe you have 20 years of wrestling experience...plus the pics you have don't really show that. Are you talking about greco-roman/freestyle or something more like WWF and stuff? I have not seen any post that you have had any experience with this kind of thing...maybe I missed it.

A 20 year wrestler should have found that coverage of 4+ cops trying to subdue a typical college kid a feeble attempt and the taser unnecessary. A 20 year wrestler should not think controling someone against their will = broken bones and joints though unless your matches have all been fixed. Your wrestling did require your opponent to leave the ring, give up or be tapped out right? They didn't want this to happen right?

What I find laughable is the so-called LEO's in the UF thread are calling panicked flailing 'fighting' and talked about worrying about a broken nose or a lost eye.

 

revnja

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Glad to see how the ruling came out on this one.

We should be imprisoning more people that use YouTube.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: alkemyst

It is illegal in the state of Florida to record a person's voice without the person's knowledge and consent, but the law says there must be a reasonable expectation of privacy. The expectation of privacy while partying on Peanut Island could come into question.

While I agree that you have no expectation of privacy in a public place, the fact that she shot the video secretively implies that she knew he expected his comments to be private.

I don't know what the law says about that though.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
I agree alkemyst. People are jumping to conclusions about the legal system but didn't even really read the OP. The woman deserves it imo.

So someone should be thrown in jail for video taping someone out in public? Even without their consent, I think it should be free game. Hell, the tabloids do it all the time and they don't get in trouble for it. This is a stupid fvckin law, no if, and, or buts about it.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: waggy
tazing is for when the person is fighting or has a weapon. BUT to do 10 times is insane and abuse. the kid in florida was fighting and refuisng to do what asked. the cops were right to tazer him (for less then a second) then put him in handcuffs.

is it safe? well a hell of a lot safer then a billy club or trying to use just manpower.

And yes as i said in other threads i do have training. I spent nearly 20 years in wrestling and a few years in martial arts.

Am i a expert? no but i do know how fucking hard it is to control someone without resorting ot tactics that will break bones or joints (wich again teh cops try not to do).

I have given my experiance, what is yours on trying to keep someone down?

2 years high school wrestling, 7 years martial arts, part time security at events. Not my current job or activity...this was about 10 years ago+ now. Back then we didn't have tasers and pepper spray easily available. You just learned things that keep people going where you want them to. Based on your comments though I find it hard to believe you have 20 years of wrestling experience...plus the pics you have don't really show that. Are you talking about greco-roman/freestyle or something more like WWF and stuff? I have not seen any post that you have had any experience with this kind of thing...maybe I missed it.

A 20 year wrestler should have found that coverage of 4+ cops trying to subdue a typical college kid a feeble attempt and the taser unnecessary. A 20 year wrestler should not think controling someone against their will = broken bones and joints though unless your matches have all been fixed. Your wrestling did require your opponent to leave the ring, give up or be tapped out right? They didn't want this to happen right?

What I find laughable is the so-called LEO's in the UF thread are calling panicked flailing 'fighting' and talked about worrying about a broken nose or a lost eye.


the WWE is not wrestling its entertainment.

yes i spent 20 years in wrestling (most forms freeystyle, grecko/Roman, etc. though my ffamily has a history in it (uncle a state champ, cousin 2 time state champ)). I also have had major health issues wich now limit my mobility and such Wrestling had a part in that also but hell thats a diffrent thread and if you really want to know PM me. I have been very open about my health.

am i saying 6 shouldnt be able to? no they should have. but what i am saying its not as easy as many think. When a guy is fighting (wich he was) you need to be able to get him under control in a way that will not hurt (and as right now tazers are the least deadly of the training they have). Sure there have been a few deaths. but there also have been a few deaths by cops chocking, billy clubs etc.l

Cops do not spend there life learning moves. even with 2 years experiance you have enough knowledge to put someone down. cops do not have that (well most). they also spend time learning laws, firearms, PR etc. So yes they need tools to help.

I have agreed from the start they need better training. but again that is another thread.


BUT as i been saying IN this case the cops were justified useing the tazer. should they been able to get h im under control? yes. Do i expect them to have the training? no (though they should).

having them attempt to use physical force is just going to get them or the idiot kid hurt.


 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: alkemyst

It is illegal in the state of Florida to record a person's voice without the person's knowledge and consent, but the law says there must be a reasonable expectation of privacy. The expectation of privacy while partying on Peanut Island could come into question.

While I agree that you have no expectation of privacy in a public place, the fact that she shot the video secretively implies that she knew he expected his comments to be private.

I don't know what the law says about that though.

It's illegal, this chick had a history of doing things just like this to other people. A judge gets a different level of privacy afforded to him due to his position. Likewise a judge is entitled to his private time.

Fortunately the people here are taking a man noticing breasts at a island spot normal and not trying to cruxify him. With all these officials going after minors and practical babies they are probably estatic.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: alkemyst

It is illegal in the state of Florida to record a person's voice without the person's knowledge and consent, but the law says there must be a reasonable expectation of privacy. The expectation of privacy while partying on Peanut Island could come into question.

While I agree that you have no expectation of privacy in a public place, the fact that she shot the video secretively implies that she knew he expected his comments to be private.

I don't know what the law says about that though.

It's illegal, this chick had a history of doing things just like this to other people. A judge gets a different level of privacy afforded to him due to his position. Likewise a judge is entitled to his private time.

Fortunately the people here are taking a man noticing breasts at a island spot normal and not trying to cruxify him. With all these officials going after minors and practical babies they are probably estatic.

Yeah I'm not entirely sure what she did WAS illegal. What is your basis for saying that a judge has a "different" (implicitly greater) expectation of privacy? Typically public figures have a lesser expectation of privacy. Whether or not it was legal appears to hinge on whether or not he had an expectation of privacy, and I'm not sure if he did or not.