Lady, don't even TRY to argue with me, at one point I would have told you what your support boundaries were...

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My GOD! I don't think I have EVER been this pissed at work.

Customer calls up, says he hasn't had connectivity from the outside. DSL router is feeding directly to one server, & from there goes to the rest of his network. While I was checking the basics, I see almost 900 successful connections. As I'm watching, I see two more. Which means one of two things are happening:

1) The router is training but never reaching the authentication server.
2) The router is training but failing authentication, & PPP restart is enabled.

Neither one of which are issues I can deal with, as I'm strictly LAN support. So, I grab one of our Tier 1 techs & explain the situation to her. This is very clearly within her realm, there's absolutely no question as to whether or not she can support this.

Tier 1: Is the customer on a network?
Me: It doesn't matter, just go in through the management port & ignore the ethernet side of things.
Tier 1: Sir, if it's on a network I can't provide support for it.
Me: Yes, you can. If you're really that concerned about the network simply unplug the ethernet cable, & go strictly through the ethernet cable. This is completely separate from the network.
Tier 1: If it's on a network I can't support it.
Me: No, you can support it. I was on your mentor line for quite some time, I would have been the one you called to ask what your support boundaries were. I did your job for 9 months, I know very well what your support boundaries are.
Tier 1: Well, they change from time to time. If it's on a network I CANNOT SUPPORT IT. Could you please give me your name & ID number? (The change thing is BS, our managers and theirs are constantly in communication, I know full well what their support boundaries are. It's a common misconception with them that they can't even troubleshoot WAN connectivity if the router comes within 20 feet of a hub, router, server, computer, game console, PDA, or digital wristwatch.)
Me: Sure, I'm Gregg. ID #...
Tier 1: OK, I can talk to the customer but if it's on a network...
Me: <CLICK> (obscenities)

Goddamn she pissed me off, I'm still somewhat shaky. Stupid, ignorant, asinine techs that don't know jack about what they're supposed to support.

:|:|:|:|

The next tech was much better, I was sure to thank her for doing her job. So if you see Amy, tell her thank you for me. And whoever that first tech was can kiss my ass.

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Windogg

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Ugh... L1 Techs strike again. Go grab a drink of water and email her the &quot;you're number one&quot; pic.

A oursource techie (IE paper MCSE) had to ask me what a DNS server was and how does it relate to our network. :|
 

Valhalla1

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you need a less stressful job.


I'm just waiting for marijuana to be legalized so I can work as a &quot;quality assurance&quot; taste tester :D


 

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Normally my job's not so stressful, but occasionally people manage to push all the right buttons. She was one of those people.

As for e-mailing her my picture, I wish I could. Unfortunately:

1) I don't remember her name or ID number.
2) I'd probably get fired.

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UnixFreak

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That is total crap. I used to be t1 (you remember) and I would have just went straight to the router and worried about that, because that was MY JOB, for god's sake. And, in that position, you can support a network to a point, depending on how comfortable you are with it, I did it all the time. If you have no WAN connectivity, its pretty f*cking obvious the network side has nothing to do with that. Ridicoulous.


They should have paid attention in class on the 5 step troubleshooting. It works.
 

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<< It's a common misconception with them that they can't even troubleshoot WAN connectivity if the router comes within 20 feet of a hub, router, server >>



Viper,

As much stress as this has caused you, I have to say that, as an end user, I do find it a bit comforting to know that I'm not the only one they give this crap to.:D

On those rare occasions that I find myself calling them, I no longer even mention my network or anything beyond just one single Win98 system.

Russ, NCNE
 

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Russ...

That's pretty much what you have to do. Tell them it's one computer, tell them it's connected directly, etc, etc, etc. The problem is that as soon as I identify myself as being from LAN support they put up this &quot;support boundary&quot; wall. I honestly think it's a problem with the way they are trained, since it seems so prevalent. Whenever I send customers to them I instruct them very carefully on what to say &amp; what not to say.

Sad, but that's what we have to do to accomplish anything.

:(

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