labor union question

Fistandantilis

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I think I am in the right place here if not feel free to move me there, that said;

I am writing a short essay and class presentation concerning any labor union issue from 1990 to present, I am doing mine on the 1994 MLB players strike, it is rather nice, I am proud.
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I would like to offer my classmates a little bit more for their tuition fees, but I am not too sure if this is correct. Though I am in school for a degree in computer information technology, I am a great fan of history, esspecially WWII.
Like I said the assignment theme is labor unions, so as an "extra credit" ass kiss, I wanted to write and present 2-3 pages the about the national socialist german workers party also known as the Nazi party. I have done a bit of research and I think that they were very much like a labor union(at least in the beginning), am I correct?

I appreciate any help or light any of you can shed on this post but please remember that this IS school work, thanks.
 

Ronstang

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I am not sure I would equate the Nazi party to a labor union exactly. While it did posses some similar attributes it's main purpose was political in nature and more of excluding certain people than including them. It was really a political party that was painted to look like a labor union in the beginning...it grew into something much worse. Last time I checked a labor union is not capable of extending it's power across all industries and controlling the entire economy of a nation.
 

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Ever see a UAW member driving a Honda? No? That's because they're all in concentration camps.
 

TheKub

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I have no doubt in the power and benefits of a union. But during my one and only union position, it felt like all it did was make my a lot coworkers work JUST hard enough to not get fired.
 

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Wow. The Nazi propaganda lives!
The only thing the Nazis wanted to do for labor unions was end them.
The "socialist" part of the Nazi name was not socialism as you are thinking. It was the treatment of the country and the German people as whole, and working for the betterment of that whole (as the Nazis saw it)
In fact, the Nazis saw labor unions as a threat to the German people, so destroying them worked for the betterment of Germany, hence a "social" improvement.
It was sort of like, and not to get to currently political, the Repubicans passing the "Clear Skies act, and claiming it was to protect the air, when it was the opposite.
 

Fistandantilis

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thanks for the replies fellas, I did my report and engaged the class in the nazi party as a union, it went well I think. either way, I got the "A" and the teach says I will see a little bit extra on my final grade.

again, thanks.
 

Squisher

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And, the teacher went for it? Wow.


The Nazi party was based on the notion of an authoritarian leadership(right wing). Communism/Socialism is based on the notion of the people, the common working man being the voice of leadership (left wing). However, neither unions nor communistic countries fully embrace the true notion of communism basically because it is doomed to failure.

 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: Squisher
And, the teacher went for it? Wow.


The Nazi party was based on the notion of an authoritarian leadership(right wing). Communism/Socialism is based on the notion of the people, the common working man being the voice of leadership (left wing). However, neither unions nor communistic countries fully embrace the true notion of communism basically because it is doomed to failure.

You'll find that when the Right and Left go extreme, they meet. :)

The political system we have is rudimentary and like a donut.
 

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Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: Squisher
And, the teacher went for it? Wow.


The Nazi party was based on the notion of an authoritarian leadership(right wing). Communism/Socialism is based on the notion of the people, the common working man being the voice of leadership (left wing). However, neither unions nor communistic countries fully embrace the true notion of communism basically because it is doomed to failure.

You'll find that when the Right and Left go extreme, they meet. :)

The political system we have is rudimentary and like a donut.

The only difference between communism and facism is in the deed to the factory:

Facism:
Widget Co.
Factory owned by Joe Smith,
loyal party member and
manager for the good of the state.

Communism:
Widget Co.
Factory owned by The Party,
managed by Joe Smith, loyal party member
for the good of the state.
 

uberman

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The Dutch Army was union in the 1970's and they had hair over their shoulders. There are some good pics lying around.
 

SirStev0

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You could talk about the Molly Maguires and the other Secret Labor Society/Industrial Terrorists. They are heroes of the coal regions of NE Pennsylvania. They even made a movie with Sean Connery.