Kyro is gone. Matrox next?

[Damascus]

<< Do any of you realize that or is your head stuck some where the sun don't shine? >>

 

[dew042]

<< dew042: Holy smokes! You went through *four* AIW cards and couldn't get ANY of them to work right??
You either have some sort of really bad motherboard or you had something in your registry that left gunk behind!
Or a loose nut behind the keyboard! (just kidding!)

I'd say there's more to blame than bad drivers if you had THAT many problems... >>



this is in the span of three different motherboards. most of the time i did fresh os installs. i fail to see how it could be anything other than drivers. eitherway i don't have the time or desire to hunt down a reason.... you kknow what i mean?

dew.

 

[AA0]

well there is one other common factor you are forgetting about, and its you. You installed the drivers, and they didn't work.

Personally I have installed many ATI cards and used them for just about anything, never a single problem. I'm setting up a dual monitor workstation for someone now with a Radeon VE, should be simple aswell.

 

[WyteRyce]

<< You installed the drivers, and they didn't work.

Personally I have installed many ATI cards and used them for just about anything, never a single problem. I'm setting up a dual monitor workstation for someone now with a Radeon VE, should be simple aswell. >>



Its hard to screw up ATI driver installation, especially with a fresh OS.

And my experience with my Radeon AIW in Win2k was mixed. Gaming for the most part was fine, but I could not get the video capture to work right.

 

[rockhard]

<< And didn't nvidia up the reference standards for RFI filtering again with the GF4? >>



If people were more careful when buying their cards then all manufacturers would NOW be doing decent RF filtering IMO.
I have a Hercules GF2 Ti200 and the 2D sux big time. I also thought my geometry on the monitor was whacko until........

Ive just done the RF mod on my Ti200 and the 2D has improved but now has swimming :/
But the geometry has become nigh on perfect.
One thing this tells me is i wont EVER buy a Herc card again. Ive had 2x Herc' cards and theyve both been the same.
Funny thing is my Elsa GF2/MX's 2D and geometry with the same monitor are stellar
Im sad to see Elsa go as they had the best 2D in the GF2 line IMO.

So you guys want decent 2D - whenever you buy a card and it has crap 2D - do us all a favour and take it back.
If enough people do this, wont be long before manufacturers get forced into doing things the right way or they loose money

 

[JellyBaby]

<< One thing this tells me is i wont EVER buy a Herc card again. >>

Well I heard Herc will not be making a GF4 board so you need not even be tempted. ATI all the way, for good or evil?

 

[Electric Amish]

Kyro is owned by PowerVR, not STMicro, so no it's not going away.

Secondly, my beloved Matrox.

I am still using in my gaming rig my G400. It has lasted me through my last 3 upgrades. I have only ever owned Matrox cards. Even when all my friends went NVidia and Kyro. I still play all the same games that my friends play with beautiful graphics and enough speed to be fluid. I don't play at anything lower than 1024x768 and I can use 32-bit color where my friends still have problems.

Yes, their G550 was a farce. I will not argue that.

Yes, their 2D quality is beyond all. ESPECIALLY at 1600x1200 and higher res. You probably couldn't notice the difference at 1024x768 between a GF3, ATI, Kyro, or Matrox...maybe.

Yes they have a card in the works, rumoured to be code-named Parahelia.

I would guess (hope) for it's release by summer and I believe that it will beat (by a little or a lot, I'm not sure) all current con-(pre)-tenders.

amish

 

[bluemax]

I seem to recall that Matrox also had the best colour/quality of D3D rendering of all cards too. Not fast, but EXCELLENT quality...
If only they could do that with some major speed!
(Although if you think about it, a G400MAX performs about as well as a GeForce2MX....sometimes.)

 

[dew042]

<< well there is one other common factor you are forgetting about, and its you. You installed the drivers, and they didn't work.

Personally I have installed many ATI cards and used them for just about anything, never a single problem. I'm setting up a dual monitor workstation for someone now with a Radeon VE, should be simple aswell. >>




are you a moron, or do you just pretend to be one? (you took a pot shot, you get one back) i am not an idiot. how the f%&k do i mess up a fully automated driver install????? if the install fails isn't that yet another failing of the ati driver install mechanism?


i have had probelms with the all in wonder working completely in w2k. never has it worked. there are enough people in the rage3d forums to write up a class action suit against ati. the probelms never end in that forum.

in w2k the main issue that constantly comes up involves the capture and time shifting. the tv works fine, but i can't record tv. why the f$#k would i buy a piece of crap video card if it doesn't actually do the things i need it for? i never had both of these options work at the same time.

the other ati cards i have used worked fine. the aiw radeon worked fine as video cards, but their extended features didn't.

have you used the aiw radeon in w2k to actually experience the issues i am talking about or are you just talking out of your ass about stupid generalities that you have experienced? i talk from my experience.

i'd say i made an extended effort to give ati a chance to come through with the product and support they advertised in the aiw radeon and they fail again and again.

and ati continues to fail its customers to this very day. upon release of the 8500 they promised WHQL certified drivers and a revision in the next three months. they have failed on both accounts. that in my mind does not show a commitment to the support and drivers that they are responsible for. in the modern age of hardware, the actual purchase is only half the battle. the continued support and reliability of the company your purchase from is absolutely vital.

thanks for your view.
dew.

 

[FlippyBoy]

i've been a matrox fan since their millenium days, and for a non-gaming system, i always put in a matrox. i was sorry to see them pull out of the gaming market, and i sincerely hope they can re-enter the fray sometime soon. even if they dont, though, i really cant see anything bad happening to them. they have way too much going for them right now.