KY 3rd congressional district now a dead heat

spidey07

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This is amazing and really shocking to say the least. Dem Yarmouth pretty much assumed he was going to win easily as did any collection of political pundits. There were no primary challengers to this dem. Surprise, surprise, he's in a dead heat poll wise with republican challenger Todd Lally. CNN has now moved this seat to the list 100 top seats in jeopardy.

Yarmouth consistently held this message when challenged on his voting against the interest of his constituents regarding healthcare and a slew of other issues - "I have to vote what I think is best and if citizens don't like it they can vote me out". He has had this attitude for a long time (this is only his second term but ran a liberal newspaper rag for a long time and included his editorial lib drivel) and could be considered super liberal. Well John, we're going to fire your ass just like you told us to. That kind of elitism and going against the will of the people is not what this country needs.

http://www.whas11.com/community/blo...rmuth-and-Lally-in-a-dead-heat-102098093.html
The poll is a stunner locally, and it could be the canary in the coal mine for Democrats nationally.
"(Yarmuth) separated himself from everybody in Louisville with that health care bill because 58% of us did not want it," Lally contended.

"(The voters are) very angry about health care," acknowledged Gunnell, "And they are very angry about 'Cap and Trade' because the president honestly didn't do a good job of explaining it. And, he's left his members out there basically to blow in the wind by themselves."

But Yarmuth is unapologetic about his votes.

"You can say that trying to deal with our health care crisis and make sure that health care is affordable and accessible for every American is a liberal agenda," Yarmuth said, "I think that is a very significant mainstream moderate agenda."

Yet, enough voters in Kentucky's Third Congressional District may see it another way.
 
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spidey07

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how do i get in on this health care reform circle jerk?

In case you hadn't noticed, the thread is about a congressmen who was in all honesty to have easily won regardless any challenger. He was just assumed he would win, no matter what.

Not so much. This is a bellwether for things to come in the glorious retaking of this country that's coming in November.

It really is a big deal, at least locally in my district (KY 3rd). It was thought there was no way he could even lose, not even close. Polls suggest otherwise.
 

LumbergTech

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Hmm..so basically in that area people trust the republican candidate equally or at least very close..

how is that impressive? who cares what some pundits said...
 

spidey07

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Hmm..so basically in that area people trust the republican candidate equally or at least very close..

how is that impressive? who cares what some pundits said...

It's big city liberal district that was assumed to be in dem control it wasn't supposed to be even close.
 

ProfJohn

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The Democrats are screwed this fall.

Their new strategy is to abandon races that don't look winnable and focus their time money and effort on those that do.

Of course by jumping out of a bunch of races that allows the Republicans to do similar and thus the battle ground becomes smaller. This favors the Republicans this because they are actually at a fiscal disadvantage for a change.
 

theeedude

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Teabaggers are going to be disappointed when the rubber hits the road. The Republicans still can't govern, which is going to be made obvious again for the idiots who didn't get it the first few times.
 

charrison

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Teabaggers are going to be disappointed when the rubber hits the road. The Republicans still can't govern, which is going to be made obvious again for the idiots who didn't get it the first few times.

The idiots in DC can govern now?
 

theeedude

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The idiots in DC can govern now?

Sure. Considering the magnitude of the problem they have to deal with, they are doing pretty well. Of course criticizing is easier than coming out with actual working policies, but it should be fairly obvious that electing the same people to implement the same policies that led up to the crisis we are in is not going to do anything other than setting the recovery back by a few years.
 

charrison

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Sure. Considering the magnitude of the problem they have to deal with, they are doing pretty well. Of course criticizing is easier than coming out with actual working policies, but it should be fairly obvious that electing the same people to implement the same policies that led up to the crisis we are in is not going to do anything other than setting the recovery back by a few years.

I guess it was ok when the democrats were the party of no and had no ideas.

But this wave election that is forming while may be fueled by the bad economy, it is also fueled by reps not listening to the people. DC has passed things that the people do not want and they have a really good chance of getting thrown out for it.
 

theeedude

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I guess it was ok when the democrats were the party of no and had no ideas.
Which was when? GOP got to try their ideas and they failed. Dems didn't stop them from passing their tax cuts, they passed Medicare reform to add prescription drugs, they deregulated, and results are for everyone to see. This country would be in much better shape if Democrats were the party of NO 1994-2006.
But this wave election that is forming while may be fueled by the bad economy, it is also fueled by reps not listening to the people. DC has passed things that the people do not want and they have a really good chance of getting thrown out for it.
Yeah, OK, lets elect people who helped cause the bad economy. When DC passed things people wanted, cheap credit and less regulation, for example, we got the current crisis. I am sure it will be totally different this time :D
 

charrison

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Which was when? GOP got to try their ideas and they failed. Dems didn't stop them from passing their tax cuts, they passed Medicare reform to add prescription drugs, they deregulated, and results are for everyone to see. This country would be in much better shape if Democrats were the party of NO 1994-2006.

Republicans did get some things passed while they were in office, but democrats were the party of no during that time as well. Not much different. Medicare part D is not the cause of current problems and is the only part of medicare that is under budget at this point.

The republicans did try to stop the mortgage mess, but the democrats did a good job of derailing and letting the status quo stand. And housing is the root of our current economic problem. Do you need some reminder quotes from rangel?

Yeah, OK, lets elect people who helped cause the bad economy. When DC passed things people wanted, cheap credit and less regulation, for example, we got the current crisis. I am sure it will be totally different this time :D

Yes democrats helped keep those home loans coming. It worked out well.
 

theeedude

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Republicans did get some things passed while they were in office, but democrats were the party of no during that time as well. Not much different. Medicare part D is not the cause of current problems and is the only part of medicare that is under budget at this point.

The republicans did try to stop the mortgage mess, but the democrats did a good job of derailing and letting the status quo stand. And housing is the root of our current economic problem. Do you need some reminder quotes from rangel?



Yes democrats helped keep those home loans coming. It worked out well.

I guess if GOP wins in November, we'll see the ideas they bring to the table. Don't be surprised if it's the same tripe they've been peddling prior to the meltdown. Contract with America style BS.
 

manimal

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I guess if GOP wins in November, we'll see the ideas they bring to the table. Don't be surprised if it's the same tripe they've been peddling prior to the meltdown. Contract with America style BS.

They will slap some lipstick on the pig, wink and say dontcha know...
 

charrison

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I guess if GOP wins in November, we'll see the ideas they bring to the table. Don't be surprised if it's the same tripe they've been peddling prior to the meltdown. Contract with America style BS.

I can say this, the general population does not like what the democrats have brought to the table at this point.

And the truth is, it is not that republican party is doing great, it is that democrats are messing up that bad.
 

theeedude

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I can say this, the general population does not like what the democrats have brought to the table at this point.

And the truth is, it is not that republican party is doing great, it is that democrats are messing up that bad.

Being unpopular and messing up are not the same thing. Sometimes doing the right things is unpopular, doesn't make them any less right.
 

dmcowen674

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I guess it was ok when the democrats were the party of no and had no ideas.

My god, being a party of no would have been a savior for this country if the Dems had any power when your hero Bush had 100 percent control of everything and got us into this mess.

Only people that hate America such as yourself would want that again.
 

her209

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The republicans did try to stop the mortgage mess, but the democrats did a good job of derailing and letting the status quo stand. And housing is the root of our current economic problem. Do you need some reminder quotes from rangel?
Republicans had control of the Senate, House of Representatives, and Presidency and you blame the Democrats? LOL
 

charrison

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Republicans had control of the Senate, House of Representatives, and Presidency and you blame the Democrats? LOL

KInd of like how the democrats blame the republicans now for obstructing their agenda? And democrats have far stronger control of both houses now.
 

charrison

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Being unpopular and messing up are not the same thing. Sometimes doing the right things is unpopular, doesn't make them any less right.

I am pretty sure this is not a case of the democrats not being right. There is much wrong with what they have done so far.