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jackstar7

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The Russians chose to strike because Clinton was an easy target. I doubt we would be where we are today had the candidate been Sanders, Warren or someone like Obama.
Right there, that's bullshit.

Russia HATED Clinton and the policies she would have continued. There's no chance they could have "convinced" her to ease sanctions. No kompromat. She wasn't an easy target. It took almost 30 years of focused shit-throwing to make her appear weak. Didn't hurt that a huge swath of men and women hate women in power.
 
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Jhhnn

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It's hard to fight an enemy when you go into said fight having already cut off your own arms and legs, and our own media did most of the work for the Russians.

This does not mean Trump should not be held accountable for colluding with a hostile foreign power.

The Russians chose to strike because Clinton was an easy target. I doubt we would be where we are today had the candidate been Sanders, Warren or someone like Obama.

Fantasy scenarios are great, huh? Highly convenient for you, as well. It's more likely that Hillary would have beaten any opponent who wasn't Trump.

Decades of poisonous right wing agitprop & successful top down economic warfare set the stage for Trump. The Russians merely exploited that to help us elect an incompetent & highly divisive President. It was & remains a tour de force in a whole new way to wage psychological warfare in the electronic age. They see potential Trump voters & splinter Dems the same way Trump does- as dupes to be manipulated.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Right there, that's bullshit.

Russia HATED Clinton and the policies she would have continued. There's no chance they could have "convinced" her to ease sanctions. No kompromat. She wasn't an easy target. It took almost 30 years of focused shit-throwing to make her appear weak. Didn't hurt that a huge swath of men and women hate women in power.
Why did the Russians not engage in kompromat against Obama? The best anyone did was the birther nonsense, which was certainly a distraction but did not cost him the Presidency.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Why did the Russians not engage in kompromat against Obama? The best anyone did was the birther nonsense, which was certainly a distraction but did not cost him the Presidency.

kompromat only works when your target is also a criminal with a long, lifetime history of criminal, compromising behavior. Your mark also has to be a willing idiot to play along with these rather obvious tactics. Criminals, like Trump and his family, are perfectly willing to engage in the type of activity that makes them such obvious marks--that is simply how they do business.

Do you think Russia wouldn't want to engage in such strategy with any potential US president? Of course they would. Obviously, Obama isn't an idiot, and was never a criminal with any kind of shady past--you actually have to go back to Carter to find a POTUS with essentially zero scandals, and zero shadiness in their past.

now as for Trump, well. ....lol Trump! I mean, yeah.
 
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agent00f

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You should read the article again. I don't know much about Sasse, but the author seems to indicate that he is a conservative of reasonably consistent ideals, but has yet to find the voice to break from party line votes and act more in line with his convictions. The author distinguishes Sasse from Rubio's and Cruz's exploitative approach to politics.

The article wasn't a hit piece nor does it support your conclusions. As usual, you're flailing that wet noodle in an attempt to score points.

That's because you can't read well when it's not in your interests to do so. The author empirically observes that Sasse says the right things but never does them, which is exactly to be expected of dishonest degenerates.

I think we should change your name. AgentFail is inaccurate because you are actually quite good at whatever it is you think you are doing. I actual admire the consistency and quality of your nonsense.

AgentFlail is perhaps a better name.

No mystery why you agree with the race realists.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Right there, that's bullshit.

Russia HATED Clinton and the policies she would have continued. There's no chance they could have "convinced" her to ease sanctions. No kompromat. She wasn't an easy target. It took almost 30 years of focused shit-throwing to make her appear weak. Didn't hurt that a huge swath of men and women hate women in power.

LOL at starbuck sorts smearing clinton and "wondering" why she's a russian target.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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Why did the Russians not engage in kompromat against Obama? The best anyone did was the birther nonsense, which was certainly a distraction but did not cost him the Presidency.
LMGTFY... except no, you should google it and learn what is being discussed.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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That's because you can't read well when it's not in your interests to do so. The author empirically observes that Sasse says the right things but never does them, which is exactly to be expected of dishonest degenerates.



No mystery why you agree with the race realists.
AgentFlail attacks with +3 flaccid noodle of intellectual impotence

Target immune

AgentFlail casts spell of degeneracy

Target immune

Starbuck counters with staff of reason

AgentFlail dissolved into pool of goo

Starbuck searches inventory.

AgentFlail is carrying:

Cloak of hidden agenda
Amulet of douchbaggery
Deck of infinite race cards
Bifocals of reading incomprehension
Vest of confirmation bias

Starbuck abandons AgentFlail's worthless inventory and goes in search of better adversaries.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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AgentFlail attacks with +3 flaccid noodle of intellectual impotence

Target immune

AgentFlail casts spell of degeneracy

Target immune

Starbuck counters with staff of reason

AgentFlail dissolved into pool of goo

Starbuck searches inventory.

AgentFlail is carrying:

Cloak of hidden agenda
Amulet of douchbaggery
Deck of infinite race cards
Bifocals of reading incomprehension
Vest of confirmation bias

Starbuck abandons AgentFlail's worthless inventory and goes in search of better adversaries.

To your credit, this is somewhat less trashy than the trailer lip coming from your white nationalist buddies.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Does that mean you get it? You can't blackmail someone that's clean.

So Hilary HAD to be stopped and Trump was perfectly compromised. If any good comes from this, it might be exposing everyone that's dirty so they can be rooted out.

The important thing is we're talking about Clinton and Obama now.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Does that mean you get it? You can't blackmail someone that's clean.

So Hilary HAD to be stopped and Trump was perfectly compromised. If any good comes from this, it might be exposing everyone that's dirty so they can be rooted out.
I look forward to when Rolling Stone or the NY Times puts together the timeline of who knew what and when. I fully support exposing to the root everyone who is corrupt and dirty. I expect that purge will touch many of the Trump and GOP faithful, and that outcome doesn't frighten or even bother me. Will you be as assertive if the taint of corruption extends to the DNC side of the aisle? The interests of the donor class to both the GOP and DNC share more in common with Trump or the Russian oligarchy than you or I.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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I look forward to when Rolling Stone or the NY Times puts together the timeline of who knew what and when. I fully support exposing to the root everyone who is corrupt and dirty. I expect that purge will touch many of the Trump and GOP faithful, and that outcome doesn't frighten or even bother me. Will you be as assertive if the taint of corruption extends to the DNC side of the aisle? The interests of the donor class to both the GOP and DNC share more in common with Trump or the Russian oligarchy than you or I.

The DNC is the Real story here.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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I look forward to when Rolling Stone or the NY Times puts together the timeline of who knew what and when. I fully support exposing to the root everyone who is corrupt and dirty. I expect that purge will touch many of the Trump and GOP faithful, and that outcome doesn't frighten or even bother me. Will you be as assertive if the taint of corruption extends to the DNC side of the aisle? The interests of the donor class to both the GOP and DNC share more in common with Trump or the Russian oligarchy than you or I.
Why do people constantly act like integrity doesn't exist?

Yeah, I want the corrupt to be rooted out and I don't care from whence they come.

I'm not looking for saints in public office though. I don't think Jefferson Smith would make it in today's climate with partisanship/team sports peaking. I am interested in pragmatic people who want to help more than they hurt.
 

kage69

Lifer
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Right there, that's bullshit.

Russia HATED Clinton and the policies she would have continued. There's no chance they could have "convinced" her to ease sanctions. No kompromat. She wasn't an easy target. It took almost 30 years of focused shit-throwing to make her appear weak. Didn't hurt that a huge swath of men and women hate women in power.

Absolutely correct. Not too fond of her personally either; consider their shitstorm of butthurt when she joked about Putin not having a soul.
 

esquared

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Looks like he left off a little of his wealth too from his financial disclose forms.

"Jared Kushner "inadvertently omitted" more than 70 assets worth at least $10.6 million from his personal financial disclosure reports,"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/69a3cc...08cf2b12/ss_kushner-discloses-additional.html


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