Originally posted by: scauffiel
Originally posted by: Ornery
The World Owes Me A Living!Originally posted by: gigapet
40+ hour work weeks for conglomerate corporations compensating us with mere slave wages and bull sh1t pensions we'll likely never see, all the while taunting us to work free overtime with promises of just-out-of-reach advancement opportunities and 3% pay increases.
:beer: heres to corporate life
There is NOTHING stopping you from starting your own business. And God, I hope every single employee you hire, thinks JUST LIKE YOU!
Thanks Ornery - I was just waiting to get to the bottom of this thread and post the same thing. I cannot STAND many of the young adults entering the workforce today and the way they feel they are OWED something. Pisses me off to no end.
Steve
Sorry, but I don't see how somebody could make millions with your labor.Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: scauffiel
Originally posted by: Ornery
The World Owes Me A Living!Originally posted by: gigapet
40+ hour work weeks for conglomerate corporations compensating us with mere slave wages and bull sh1t pensions we'll likely never see, all the while taunting us to work free overtime with promises of just-out-of-reach advancement opportunities and 3% pay increases.
:beer: heres to corporate life
There is NOTHING stopping you from starting your own business. And God, I hope every single employee you hire, thinks JUST LIKE YOU!
Thanks Ornery - I was just waiting to get to the bottom of this thread and post the same thing. I cannot STAND many of the young adults entering the workforce today and the way they feel they are OWED something. Pisses me off to no end.
Steve
not sure where you two are getting off thinking that I feel like I am owed something. Clearly I realize working for a large company is for fools. I do not plan on spending my life making chump change while a bunch of rich white guys collect millions off the sweat of my labor.
You think the other "chumps" are owed more than they're making in those large companies? You think their compensation is inadequate?Originally posted by: gigapet
not sure where you two are getting off thinking that I feel like I am owed something. Clearly I realize working for a large company is for fools. I do not plan on spending my life making chump change while a bunch of rich white guys collect millions off the sweat of my labor.
Originally posted by: gigapet
not sure where you two are getting off thinking that I feel like I am owed something. Clearly I realize working for a large company is for fools. I do not plan on spending my life making chump change while a bunch of rich white guys collect millions off the sweat of my labor.
I found kranky's stuff to be common-sense (though I acknowledge it may be new/useful to others), but this is a great tip that I never really thought about. Thanks!Originally posted by: SuperSix
One thing I would add.. Always try to mentor someone to replace you. Why? You stand a better chance of getting a promotion if there's someone that can (at least partially) fill your shoes.
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: KLin
Some rules are breakable, but there needs to be a good reason. The quickest way to get on my bad side is to say "The rules say that X isn't allowed, but you let Bob do X, so I want to do it too." It's not a democracy. There was a good reason I allowed Bob to do X. That reason doesn't apply to you, so don't whine. You might need special treatment someday for a different reason, and if you let me do it for Bob without demanding equal treatment, I'll do it for you. You cannot have every single thing that every single other person gets.
That could be considered discrimination.
Here's an example to show it's not. There's a company rule that hourly people must be paid overtime for more than 8 hours in a day. Bob's kid is very ill and he's missed a lot of work taking his kid to the doctor and the hospital. He's used up all his vacation and personal days.
Now Bob's kid needs to go to the doctor again, and he needs to miss Monday morning. Bob asks if he can make up the four hours by working an extra hour Tuesday-Friday. The rule would say that he would have to be paid overtime for that extra hour, yet Bob doesn't expect overtime pay. He's just hoping for the chance to not lose a half-day's pay.
It's not fair to pay Bob overtime when he's just making up for the time he missed. So I tell Bob it's OK to make up the hours, but he won't be getting overtime for it.
A related issue is: why would I let Bob do that? It's because he's a good worker, reliable, honest, all that. He's got enough problems without having to miss a half-day's pay. And when Slacker Mary comes up to me wanting the same deal because she feels like sleeping in, the answer is no.
The difference is that Bob will work like hell because he knows we cut him a break and Mary would only try to do the same thing every week.
Originally posted by: mugs
My contribution - dress appropriately for the occassion. Even if jeans are allowed at your company, they're not always appropriate. Don't wear jeans to a meeting that will be attended by someone high up in the company unless they normally wear jeans. If they're wearing a suit and you're wearing jeans, you look stupid.
I bring this up because I saw it happen today.
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: mugs
My contribution - dress appropriately for the occassion. Even if jeans are allowed at your company, they're not always appropriate. Don't wear jeans to a meeting that will be attended by someone high up in the company unless they normally wear jeans. If they're wearing a suit and you're wearing jeans, you look stupid.
I bring this up because I saw it happen today.
One step further... don't believe other people when they tell you that you are over-dressed.... oftentimes they are just undressed slobs. You don't need to wear a suit everyday unless your job says so, but don't be afraid to wear a tie or just flat out look damn good.
Originally posted by: Howard
Sorry, but I don't see how somebody could make millions with your labor.Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: scauffiel
Originally posted by: Ornery
The World Owes Me A Living!Originally posted by: gigapet
40+ hour work weeks for conglomerate corporations compensating us with mere slave wages and bull sh1t pensions we'll likely never see, all the while taunting us to work free overtime with promises of just-out-of-reach advancement opportunities and 3% pay increases.
:beer: heres to corporate life
There is NOTHING stopping you from starting your own business. And God, I hope every single employee you hire, thinks JUST LIKE YOU!
Thanks Ornery - I was just waiting to get to the bottom of this thread and post the same thing. I cannot STAND many of the young adults entering the workforce today and the way they feel they are OWED something. Pisses me off to no end.
Steve
not sure where you two are getting off thinking that I feel like I am owed something. Clearly I realize working for a large company is for fools. I do not plan on spending my life making chump change while a bunch of rich white guys collect millions off the sweat of my labor.
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: gigapet
not sure where you two are getting off thinking that I feel like I am owed something. Clearly I realize working for a large company is for fools. I do not plan on spending my life making chump change while a bunch of rich white guys collect millions off the sweat of my labor.
So how old are you and what company do you own?
Edit: I'm sure you'll be happy to know that no one is making millions off my blood, sweat and tears. I work for a non-profit.
40+ hour work weeks for conglomerate corporations compensating us with mere slave wages and bull sh1t pensions we'll likely never see, all the while taunting us to work free overtime with promises of just-out-of-reach advancement opportunities and 3% pay increases.
:beer: heres to corporate life
Originally posted by: mugs
Also, don't crap your pants in a meeting: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1392137&enterthread=y&arctab=y
Originally posted by: kranky
- It's a fact that most people coming out of school are lazy. They cheated in school, copied papers from the Internet, lied to get out of assignments, blew off working when there was a party to go to, etc. What happens is that when they get into a real job, they don't even know how to work! They can't focus, they can't work with others, and they often don't feel like they have to work. If you work hard, I guarantee you will automatically outperform 90% of your co-workers. You can be thankful for the lazy ones because they really make it easy to move ahead.
For all of you starting out a new career after graduation, I wish you the best of luck.
And read the rest of the thread for additional tips from other members! Good stuff.