korean karate holy shiz!

[Zeze]

WTFWTFWTF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rCcQt62vThY#t=178s

Not solid floor... the impact carries through arm and diffuses at the open air below the cinder blocks.

Also the hammer is immediately withdrawn by the wielder, taking all the weight & power away.

 

[Red Squirrel]

No, it's really just tricks and trick materials and simple physics.

So it's all fake? Is it just foam props or something?

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

I was in TKD as a kid. I am not into boxing, kickboxing, and BJJ. TKD is all fake. It is a sport. The boards are dried in a kiln and incredibly brittle. They teach you stupid stuff, like to kick with the ball of your foot (you should be landing with your shin else fuck up your foot.) They teach lots of bad habits that are hard to break when you get into real martial arts.

 

[Red Squirrel]

edit: wtf this was suppose to be a reply for another thread, no idea how it got here

delete

 

[Ichinisan]

I'm sitting here trying to imagine stepping onto a nailbed, with your theory firmly in mind, and I can't.

As for the rest of it, even if it's just circus tricks (and I imagine it is) it's still pretty cool to watch.

When your body weight is distributed across hundreds and hundreds (thousands?) of nails, you'll be fine.

 

[Red Squirrel]

When your body weight is distributed across hundreds and hundreds (thousands?) of nails, you'll be fine.

I can confirm this, I tried it before. It's actually kinda comfy. I bet if they made a bed where the nails alternate in a pulsating matter it would be the ultimate massage.

 

[Pulsar]

That's good and all, but wth is the point of breaking boards and cinder blocks besides showing off? Who in their right mind would jeopardize their hands, feet and digits for a show? A fucking circus performer, that's who. I don't see the purpose of taking more risks than I need to.

I know you're just a troll, but I'll pretend you actually care for just a second.

Those boards are not scored. They are 10 x 14, 8x12, or a similarly sized 3/4" PINE board. Which, if left to dry, can be broken easily by hitting yourself in the head with it. Boards are not dried in belt testing - they can be dried for exhibitions.

FYI, I was a blackbelt in Tae-Kwon-Do. I say "was" because I stopped practicing 2 decades ago.

The concrete is porous cement that breaks fairly easily. You'd bloody your knuckles a bit: most people I know tape up before breaking those.

The equality here, however, isn't whether they are hard to break. Those boards (2-3 stacked) have the approximately the same breaking strength as an upper arm or lower leg. They are training to cripple and put people out of service. One concrete block is about the same as three-four boards together. If you can break concret, you can break any major bone in the human body in one strike.

Bricks are harder than concrete. Practice makes perfect though: you need to learn to completely committ to the strike. Pull up at the last instant and you can and will be hurt if you fail to break it.

The bed-of-nails thing is a well-known parlor trick. Surface are vs. pressure, etc.

The rest of it is real. The people on the video could incapacitate you with a single punch or kick. The hitting-with sticks crap is just for show. The sledge hammer on hand is also a trick, though a dangerous one. He accelerates his hand downward just before the hammer hits, so he's actually breaking concrete already as the hammer is connecting with his hand.

Obviously, if you hit his hand while it is stationary, you would crush it.

Looks like a marketing video. Some of it is real, some of it is for show.

Funny story on the side: during belt testing, one of the kids brought in boards. The bottom one broke as he was setting them down. He had baked them in an oven to remove all the moisture and make them brittle. The instructor broke each one, over the students head, while the student was laughing. Then he gave him uncured boards to break (as all the testing is done with uncured boards).

 

[Pulsar]

I was in TKD as a kid. I am not into boxing, kickboxing, and BJJ. TKD is all fake. It is a sport. The boards are dried in a kiln and incredibly brittle. They teach you stupid stuff, like to kick with the ball of your foot (you should be landing with your shin else fuck up your foot.) They teach lots of bad habits that are hard to break when you get into real martial arts.

That's a lie. If you were breaking kiln dried boards, then you were working under a teacher who was scamming you. Repubtable TKD teachers NEVER let their students dry the boards, and the teacher tests boards from each student to confirm they are legitimate.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

They teach you stupid stuff, like to kick with the ball of your foot (you should be landing with your shin else fuck up your foot.) They teach lots of bad habits that are hard to break when you get into real martial arts.

You are misinformed. Kicking with instep, balls of foot, heel, blade of foot, and shin, is superior to just shin. If you do not condition for it, you most certainly will end up injured. Which usually happens when the instructors are kooks with little to no idea what they are doing. In a good dojo or dojang, conditioning begins very early in the training. Kiddy krotty kare, ATA TKD, and the like, need not apply.

 

[waggy]

I was in TKD as a kid. I am not into boxing, kickboxing, and BJJ. TKD is all fake. It is a sport. The boards are dried in a kiln and incredibly brittle. They teach you stupid stuff, like to kick with the ball of your foot (you should be landing with your shin else fuck up your foot.) They teach lots of bad habits that are hard to break when you get into real martial arts.

wrong..

there are 2 styles of TKD. the sport (point spareing) and self defense. Aslo just because someone is in the competition TKD don't discount what he has in a fight.


kicking with the balls of you foot is fine in some kicks. they don't teach you to do that with every kick. Also same with the shin if you do not do i ta lot you will hurt yourself. IF your place was teaching you to kick with the ball for everything then yeah you went to a shitty joint (and TKD and Karate tend to have the most shitty places. BJJ is coming on strong though!). but to cast a blanket statement like you did is ignorant.

 

[7window]

kets heeya kets heeya kets

 

[OBLAMA2009]

I know you're just a troll, but I'll pretend you actually care for just a second.

Those boards are not scored. They are 10 x 14, 8x12, or a similarly sized 3/4" PINE board. Which, if left to dry, can be broken easily by hitting yourself in the head with it. Boards are not dried in belt testing - they can be dried for exhibitions.

FYI, I was a blackbelt in Tae-Kwon-Do. I say "was" because I stopped practicing 2 decades ago.

The concrete is porous cement that breaks fairly easily. You'd bloody your knuckles a bit: most people I know tape up before breaking those.

The equality here, however, isn't whether they are hard to break. Those boards (2-3 stacked) have the approximately the same breaking strength as an upper arm or lower leg. They are training to cripple and put people out of service. One concrete block is about the same as three-four boards together. If you can break concret, you can break any major bone in the human body in one strike.

Bricks are harder than concrete. Practice makes perfect though: you need to learn to completely committ to the strike. Pull up at the last instant and you can and will be hurt if you fail to break it.

The bed-of-nails thing is a well-known parlor trick. Surface are vs. pressure, etc.

The rest of it is real. The people on the video could incapacitate you with a single punch or kick. The hitting-with sticks crap is just for show. The sledge hammer on hand is also a trick, though a dangerous one. He accelerates his hand downward just before the hammer hits, so he's actually breaking concrete already as the hammer is connecting with his hand.

Obviously, if you hit his hand while it is stationary, you would crush it.

Looks like a marketing video. Some of it is real, some of it is for show.

Funny story on the side: during belt testing, one of the kids brought in boards. The bottom one broke as he was setting them down. He had baked them in an oven to remove all the moisture and make them brittle. The instructor broke each one, over the students head, while the student was laughing. Then he gave him uncured boards to break (as all the testing is done with uncured boards).

you dont even have to dry them as long as youre breaking them along the grain. when i took woodshop in high school, kids with no martial arts training in their lives could easily break the pine boards

 

[Papa Hogan]

Why do you think you're better than me, Pulsar? I've seen with my own eyes a shotokan karate sensei score the boards to make them easier to break. Granted, that's not tae kwondo, but I'm GUESSING that this practice has been done in all martial art forms.

 

[LTC8K6]

So it's all fake? Is it just foam props or something?

Fake yes, foam props are not necessary. These are well known tricks and videos explaining them are readily available.

 

[sun_tzu]

I lost it at around 3:50 with the overly anime sounding chicks breaking boards.

 

[DrPizza]

First: as far as breaking boards - I have a physics lab where students make measurements of the breaking strength of typical pine boards purchased from Home Depot. A bunch of calculations later of their own speed, mass of their hands, etc., and I demonstrate that they can break the boards. Scoring the boards is absolutely not necessary. If one of you idiots who thinks it's some sort of trick wants to make a wager, you can pick your witness, I'll go into Home Depot, have them cut the board, and break it on the spot. Pine or oak; doesn't matter to me. (Pine for my students though!)

Me - I took TKD at college & was on our university's team. I don't trust myself to go through cinder blocks (with my arm), though I think I can. There was a 4 foot cinder block wall that had to come down where I worked - yep, with my foot, I can break cinder blocks.

My personal judgment of TKD - good for building confidence, decent for self defense, and among the martial arts, takes an early lead over many martial arts for sparring. However, around brown/black, most of the other martial arts pass TKD. The style I learned was mostly a North Korean style, though my teacher also mixed in skills from other martial arts, particularly hand skills.

Oh, and re: kiln dried boards: except at an Amish sawmill, I'm wondering where you guys buy non kiln dried boards. AFAIK, all wood used in construction of dwellings MUST be kiln dried - that is, all wood at Home Depot is kiln dried. But, even air dried is fairly easy to break.

Oh, and bed of nails... thanks for reminding me to take my drill to school tomorrow; I have a 50 pound box of nails I bought; I just need to get students busy drilling pilot holes (so we can get all the nails to go through straight & evenly spaced.) Cinder block broken over chest with a sledge hammer, while laying on top of a bed of nails - not a martial art; it's simple physics.

 

[iGas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcbe3Ao0ThU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCPZMnQ9API&feature=fvwp&NR=1

Indy vs the Swordsman - Raiders of the Lost Ark

 

[vshah]

i did tkd as a kid, got up to breaking 6 boards with some kicks. they weren't scored or anything, but they weren't strong wood either.

 

[Matthiasa]

I would not trust the average student to swing a sledge hammer in my direction... but maybe that is just me.

 

[iGas]

First: as far as breaking boards - I have a physics lab where students make measurements of the breaking strength of typical pine boards purchased from Home Depot. A bunch of calculations later of their own speed, mass of their hands, etc., and I demonstrate that they can break the boards. Scoring the boards is absolutely not necessary. If one of you idiots who thinks it's some sort of trick wants to make a wager, you can pick your witness, I'll go into Home Depot, have them cut the board, and break it on the spot. Pine or oak; doesn't matter to me. (Pine for my students though!)

Me - I took TKD at college & was on our university's team. I don't trust myself to go through cinder blocks (with my arm), though I think I can. There was a 4 foot cinder block wall that had to come down where I worked - yep, with my foot, I can break cinder blocks.

My personal judgment of TKD - good for building confidence, decent for self defense, and among the martial arts, takes an early lead over many martial arts for sparring. However, around brown/black, most of the other martial arts pass TKD. The style I learned was mostly a North Korean style, though my teacher also mixed in skills from other martial arts, particularly hand skills.

Oh, and re: kiln dried boards: except at an Amish sawmill, I'm wondering where you guys buy non kiln dried boards. AFAIK, all wood used in construction of dwellings MUST be kiln dried - that is, all wood at Home Depot is kiln dried. But, even air dried is fairly easy to break.

Oh, and bed of nails... thanks for reminding me to take my drill to school tomorrow; I have a 50 pound box of nails I bought; I just need to get students busy drilling pilot holes (so we can get all the nails to go through straight & evenly spaced.) Cinder block broken over chest with a sledge hammer, while laying on top of a bed of nails - not a martial art; it's simple physics.

"Fortunately for us, reaching the equivalent limit in the body’s bones is no easy matter. Feld says bone can withstand 40 times as much force as concrete, and a cylinder of bone less than an inch in diameter and 21/3 inches long can withstand a force of 25,000 newtons. Hands and feet can take even more abuse, because skin, muscles, ligaments, tendons, and cartilage absorb a great deal of impact. A well-kicked foot can absorb about 2,000 times as much force as concrete before breaking."

How to Turn Your Fist Into a Block-Breaking Machine, Physics & Math, Discover Magazine.

 

[rh71]

^ sigh, I broke my 5th metatarsal in my right foot (pinky toe, halfway up the foot) falling down 2 or 3 steps of stairs awkwardly after stepping on a toy while holding my infant. It was awkward because I had to brace for the fall properly with the kid in my arms. I guess 155lbs landing with a lot of force on a small bone is just as bad as however many newtons it's supposed to withstand. I heard a pop and for a few minutes experienced uncontrollable chills. Now I know what a broken bone feels like. Folks, don't jump up and down on the outside of your foot. Dancers often succumb to it --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones_fracture

 

[SSSnail]

Love the circus acts.

 

[Apex]

Those pine boards are really easy to break, baked or not.

Bats are noticably more difficult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KjZegbUxZo

Not as difficult as that show makes it out to be though. Here's the assistant teacher at the karate school I go to going through 3 Louisville Sluggers taped together:

http://youtu.be/ZP3Dk6hi-Gs?hd=1&t=24s

 

[OBLAMA2009]

i dont consider myself a tough guy and i dont have any training in fighting, but i bet i could beat the crap out of any of those guys in that video

 

[DAPUNISHER]

i dont consider myself a tough guy and i dont have any training in fighting, but i bet i could beat the crap out of any of those guys in that video

Lulz! Dunning-Kruger strikes again. I've met guys like you over the years. You show up, talk some trash like that, get smashed by everyone we put you with, and we never see you again.