Koni yellow adjustables

[pillage2001]

I have a Koni 8041 series adjustables and find it hard to adjust or comprehend the methods to adjust the shocks. Please refer here:

http://www.koni-na.com/adjustment.cfm

The instruction:

REBOUND ADJUSTMENT DIRECTION

Clockwise = Softer
Counter Clockwise = Firmer


COMPRESSION ADJUSTMENT DIRECTION

Clockwise = Firmer
Counter Clockwise = Softer

What do they mean like this? Does this mean that when I compress the shocks fully and let go, while letting go, I turn the knob clockwise and it'll be adjustment for a softer ride? And when I turn clockwise while compressing the shocks, it'll be a firmer setting??

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

You should really find a good local alignment shop to give you advice on this. I think the actual adjustments are pretty self-explanatory, but without someone with experience with these shocks the chances are good that you'll get them set up in a way that is, minimally, less than optimal, and possibly really unpleasant.

 

[pillage2001]

I thought so too......

Another question. Let's say both are set at the softest and I fully compress it and let go at the same time. One of the shocks comes up fully extended first while the other is only less than 3/4 way to being fully extended. Is it okie??

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: pillage2001
I thought so too......

Another question. Let's say both are set at the softest and I fully compress it and let go at the same time. One of the shocks comes up fully extended first while the other is only less than 3/4 way to being fully extended. Is it okie??

You do not have them set the same. These instructions seem easy to follow to me, but I can understand where they might be confusing. The instructions in the pictures at the bottom tell the tale. The adjustments are done strictly through the wheel at the top and the screw at the bottom.

Start by setting them both at one extreme. The bottom one clicks which should make it easy and the top one is by quarter turn.

You'll have to experiment to find out what is best for your circumstances. I would start in the middle for both. You will definitely want them equal. Rebound will be relatively easy to verify by compressing and then releasing them both at the same time, but you will have no luck on compression using that method. Count the clicks and quarter turns, make them equal and have at it.

These would typically be used for racing. Is that your intended usage? I would imagine not.

Edit: Reread your post. The adjustments are made with the shock static. In other words as it sits. No compressing or turning whatsoever. That's the beauty of these. They can be adjusted while on the car. I can see where the instructions would be confusing.

 

[alkemyst]

man, I'd really have someone do this for you.

For the koni yellow's you compress and turn, not compress, let go and turn.

You should feel the shock valves moving.

Ultimately you set these based on your springs and driving conditions.

Just read the link...your 8041's are short bodied and 'race' application.

You cannot adjust the compression, all your adjustment happens with the knobs at the top.

Depending on how your rear area is determines whether you have to drop the shocks to get to the adjustment.

Koni Yellows are great, but not the best for many. You can also get them revalved and add the ability to compression adjust. At that point most would be better served going coilovers.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

you're not going to get any real installation help here, depending on the car you're driving. lets say accord for example, check out vtec.net or hondaaccordforums. you're likely to get much more help over there than in AT garage. generally people in AT garage view modifying cars as a negative and drive their car's stock

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: pillage2001
I thought so too......

Another question. Let's say both are set at the softest and I fully compress it and let go at the same time. One of the shocks comes up fully extended first while the other is only less than 3/4 way to being fully extended. Is it okie??

You do not have them set the same. These instructions seem easy to follow to me, but I can understand where they might be confusing. The instructions in the pictures at the bottom tell the tale. The adjustments are done strictly through the wheel at the top and the screw at the bottom.

Start by setting them both at one extreme. The bottom one clicks which should make it easy and the top one is by quarter turn.

You'll have to experiment to find out what is best for your circumstances. I would start in the middle for both. You will definitely want them equal. Rebound will be relatively easy to verify by compressing and then releasing them both at the same time, but you will have no luck on compression using that method. Count the clicks and quarter turns, make them equal and have at it.

These would typically used for racing. Is that your intended usage? I would imagine not.

Edit: Reread your post. The adjustments are made with the shock static. In other words as it sits. No compressing or turning whatsoever. That's the beauty of these. They can be adjusted while on the car. I can see where the instructions would be confusing.

I have a set of Eibach to go with it. It's gonna use for normal city drive. No race intended. How fast can you go on a 05 Accord?? ahaha.....

Anyway, there're no clicks it seems. At least on this series it doesn't. I'm using the knod to set it and as the guide says, the max one can turn is 0 - 720 degrees which is 2 rounds. I've set both at the softest and compressed it and let go but both does not decompress at the same rate. I emailed koni though, they said it's okie as long as it's not leaking and it's extending back to the original length. I guess I should not be worried since both ends would be screwed to the car, the weight of the car would extend the shocks evenly.

Thanks for the replies!

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
man, I'd really have someone do this for you.

For the koni yellow's you compress and turn, not compress, let go and turn.

You should feel the shock valves moving.

Ultimately you set these based on your springs and driving conditions.

Look at the link for the directions and then for this series of shocks. These are not adjusted that way. There's no compressing or turning on these. I don't want him to get more confused than he is.

Edit: I was wrong, see my post several down. Last sentence.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: pillage2001

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: pillage2001
I thought so too......

Another question. Let's say both are set at the softest and I fully compress it and let go at the same time. One of the shocks comes up fully extended first while the other is only less than 3/4 way to being fully extended. Is it okie??

You do not have them set the same. These instructions seem easy to follow to me, but I can understand where they might be confusing. The instructions in the pictures at the bottom tell the tale. The adjustments are done strictly through the wheel at the top and the screw at the bottom.

Start by setting them both at one extreme. The bottom one clicks which should make it easy and the top one is by quarter turn.

You'll have to experiment to find out what is best for your circumstances. I would start in the middle for both. You will definitely want them equal. Rebound will be relatively easy to verify by compressing and then releasing them both at the same time, but you will have no luck on compression using that method. Count the clicks and quarter turns, make them equal and have at it.

These would typically used for racing. Is that your intended usage? I would imagine not.

Edit: Reread your post. The adjustments are made with the shock static. In other words as it sits. No compressing or turning whatsoever. That's the beauty of these. They can be adjusted while on the car. I can see where the instructions would be confusing.

I have a set of Eibach to go with it. It's gonna use for normal city drive. No race intended. How fast can you go on a 05 Accord?? ahaha.....

Anyway, there're no clicks it seems. At least on this series it doesn't. I'm using the knod to set it and as the guide says, the max one can turn is 0 - 720 degrees which is 2 rounds. I've set both at the softest and compressed it and let go but both does not decompress at the same rate. I emailed koni though, they said it's okie as long as it's not leaking and it's extending back to the original length. I guess I should not be worried since both ends would be screwed to the car, the weight of the car would extend the shocks evenly.

Thanks for the replies!

were these all new? Lowering springs can wear out.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: pillage2001

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: pillage2001
I thought so too......

Another question. Let's say both are set at the softest and I fully compress it and let go at the same time. One of the shocks comes up fully extended first while the other is only less than 3/4 way to being fully extended. Is it okie??

You do not have them set the same. These instructions seem easy to follow to me, but I can understand where they might be confusing. The instructions in the pictures at the bottom tell the tale. The adjustments are done strictly through the wheel at the top and the screw at the bottom.

Start by setting them both at one extreme. The bottom one clicks which should make it easy and the top one is by quarter turn.

You'll have to experiment to find out what is best for your circumstances. I would start in the middle for both. You will definitely want them equal. Rebound will be relatively easy to verify by compressing and then releasing them both at the same time, but you will have no luck on compression using that method. Count the clicks and quarter turns, make them equal and have at it.

These would typically used for racing. Is that your intended usage? I would imagine not.

Edit: Reread your post. The adjustments are made with the shock static. In other words as it sits. No compressing or turning whatsoever. That's the beauty of these. They can be adjusted while on the car. I can see where the instructions would be confusing.

I have a set of Eibach to go with it. It's gonna use for normal city drive. No race intended. How fast can you go on a 05 Accord?? ahaha.....

Anyway, there're no clicks it seems. At least on this series it doesn't. I'm using the knod to set it and as the guide says, the max one can turn is 0 - 720 degrees which is 2 rounds. I've set both at the softest and compressed it and let go but both does not decompress at the same rate. I emailed koni though, they said it's okie as long as it's not leaking and it's extending back to the original length. I guess I should not be worried since both ends would be screwed to the car, the weight of the car would extend the shocks evenly.

Thanks for the replies!

Well, I don't want you to take this wrong but these shocks are way more than you could ever utilize on the street. Adjustable compression and rebound is racing stuff and it even says so in the instructions. Unless you can find someone who has these and has messed around with them extensively, you're going to go crazy trying to adjust these. The instructions say there are 140 possible configurations.

You would use these in a racing environment where you would experiment, record your settings and re-use those settings as a starting point the next time you came to that track. The big boys use shock dynos. I don't know what possible application these would have for street use. I don't think a lot of amateur racers would be able to tell when to increase or decrease the rebound settings for instance let alone compression.

But have fun with them.

I just reread the directions again. I guess the bottom pictures are for the 8042 series. The diagram above it would cover the 8041. They do appear to be adjusted while at full extension and compression. I was wrong - sorry.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

I had these on my previous car with Eibach Sport springs.

Do not tighten them all the way - it ill kill the strut. Koni's manual should state that 2/3'rds tight will be all that you want to go if you prefer the slowest rebound time for a more race configuration.

Fully tightern and count how many turns by marking your knob. From there back it down.

On Koni yellows - all you are adjusting is the rebound rate.

 

[pillage2001]

I used to visit the Accord forums pretty much and they recommend me to go with these shocks and the Eibach springs. Maybe it's abit overkill for the car for normal city drive with occassional spiritted driving at the highway. I did not go back there to ask all these because the forums that I frequent got shut down. :S

I think I figured out how it's work now. As Fmr12B said, fully tighten it to an extreme corner and go from there ( Currently would prefer at softest since I'm not into racing. ). I'm still not sure about compressing or rebouding while adjusting though. Doesn't seem to be the case with these 8041s.

All the parts I got are new. Haven't been to AT for years now, cars modification is a no no here eh??

 

[boomerang]

I should quit commenting because I'm not taking the time to read everything fully, (doing three things at once right now) but ..... if I understand these directions correctly, and they are confusing, the adjustments are made at full rebound and full compression. You would compress the shock fully, turn to make the adjustment and then release. They are showing that you actually pull up on the shock to make the other adjustment. If that's the case, you'd pull up, turn and then release. (There's been mention of a knob, and I don't see a knob for your series of shocks in the instructions so that's a puzzler to me.)

You're engaging the adjustment at full compression and at full extension. The shock can be rotated all you want when in a relaxed state without changing anything. If that makes any sense.

I'm confused too because you say they are yellow shocks and that they are the 8041 model and then there is advice from another poster saying that there is only one adjustment available on the yellow series.

I'll leave this to those that actually have these on their cars. Once again, I apologize for any bad advice I may have given. (or may be giving - yikes!)

BTW, I talked of these being racing shocks and yada, yada, yada. This wouldn't have stopped me from buying these when I was a young guy - seriously. I meant it when I said have fun with them!

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: boomerang
I should quit commenting because I'm not taking the time to read everything fully, (doing three things at once right now) but ..... if I understand these directions correctly, and they are confusing, the adjustments are made at full rebound and full compression. You would compress the shock fully, turn to make the adjustment and then release. They are showing that you actually pull up on the shock to make the other adjustment. If that's the case, you'd pull up, turn and then release. (There's been mention of a knob, and I don't see a knob for your series of shocks in the instructions so that's a puzzler to me.)

You're engaging the adjustment at full compression and at full extension. The shock can be rotated all you want when in a relaxed state without changing anything. If that makes any sense.

I'm confused too because you say they are yellow shocks and that they are the 8041 model and then there is advice from another poster saying that there is only one adjustment available on the yellow series.

I'll leave this to those that actually have these on their cars. Once again, I apologize for any bad advice I may have given. (or may be giving - yikes!)

BTW, I talked of these being racing shocks and yada, yada, yada. This wouldn't have stopped me from buying these when I was a young guy - seriously. I meant it when I said have fun with them!

I know where you're coming from. They're the yellow series and the 8041 is part of the Yellow series. The box has a knob in them and I manage to adjust them just like the manual said so, 0 - 720 degrees which essentially meant 2 full know turns. According to the site, it said it takes seconds to adjust so I suppose that's what it meant. Put the knob on the top and turn. I do see some changes in compression when I set it to the most firm settings. IT's alot harder to compress. Well, that's all I have to test it. LOL

Anyway, like you said it, I'm young and have been dreaming of owninga koni+eibach setup. Hopefully it doesn't turn out to be a nightmare. All I want is a more stable ride while taking corners and cruising at........a little higher than normal allowable speed.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
I had these on my previous car with Eibach Sport springs.

Do not tighten them all the way - it ill kill the strut. Koni's manual should state that 2/3'rds tight will be all that you want to go if you prefer the slowest rebound time for a more race configuration.

Fully tightern and count how many turns by marking your knob. From there back it down.

On [his] Koni yellows - all you are adjusting is the rebound rate.

fixed. Not all yellows are the same.