llreye...yes, the ultima golds i have are the 74 min ones. I think you are right that these (in this post) are the gold/silver ones. I don't remember ever seeing the gold/gold ones for 80 min. At one time i thought the gold/gold ultimas were better than the gold/silver ones, but i have no idea if that's really true.
On another note..... Does anyone have a problem with playing mp3 files on their dvd player if you use 80 min discs? I had a Toshiba (i think) dvd player/vcr unit that said in the manual to not use 80 min discs for your mp3 files. I only kept the unit a couple of days and ended up getting an Apex. I thought there was something wrong with the Toshiba because it had little pauses in the each mp3 track. Well, it turned out that i had put all my mp3 files onto cdr using packet writing software! I had no idea packet writing sofware cut up your mp3 songs into little parts that really made them unplayable. Needles to say i don't use packet writing for my mp3 files, but i have LOTS of cdrs that i used packet writing on. I guess i'm going to have to redo all of them and use Nero or something. I didn't find this out until i purchased the Toshiba dvd player because i always used my computer to play the files and there was no problem there. Just wondering if i'm the only person that ran into this problem!