Klipsch Krushers: Boston BA7800s Reviewed!!!

human2k

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logitech 560Z already do that, this is old news.

update: it does it for $136:) (easy on the wallet)
 

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Originally posted by: human2k
logitech 560Z already do that, this is old news.

Not quite:

For my tastes it?s the most musically adept 4.1 system that I have heard at the $200-$300 price range, bettered only by the discontinued ($450) Crossfire.

To quote Mark.
 

MichaelD

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It's cool that you posted this. Ironically, they look remarkably like Klipsch ProMedias. That's no accident, I'm sure.

But...Klipsch killers? I don't think so. The wattage (RMS) is not even close and the build quality isn't either. Notice that the satellites are "hard wired." I.E. the wire is permanently connected to them, as oppossed to a removeable plug, like the Klipsch PMs.

To ME, they appear to be a lame attempt at PM clones. That said, I would like to hear them, to ascertain how good/bad they are before passing FINAL judgement. I'm sure they sound good. BA makes quality stuff, that's for sure.
 

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
It's cool that you posted this. Ironically, they look remarkably like Klipsch ProMedias. That's no accident, I'm sure.

But...Klipsch killers? I don't think so. The wattage (RMS) is not even close and the build quality isn't either. Notice that the satellites are "hard wired." I.E. the wire is permanently connected to them, as oppossed to a removeable plug, like the Klipsch PMs.

To ME, they appear to be a lame attempt at PM clones. That said, I would like to hear them, to ascertain how good/bad they are before passing FINAL judgement. I'm sure they sound good. BA makes quality stuff, that's for sure.

they do sound good:)
 

BuckNaked

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When considering the elements that I believe most people think of as making up a good gaming system (clear satellites, good volume, deep powerful subwoofer) the BA7800 delivers all the necessary ingredients for very good, but not excellent performance.
The BA7800 is behind the other systems $200+ (manufacturer's suggested list price) systems tested here in the area of surround channel detail. Given that all of these systems are strong on front channel and subwoofer quality I would put the BA7800 at the back of the high end multi-channel gaming pack, particularly for action oriented games.

I think labeling these as 'Klipsch Krushers' might be a bit of overkill, mostly depending on what the primary function of your computer speakers might be.... Having said that, I wish I would have had the chance to listen to these before buying a set of Klipsch 4.1's, even though I am very happy with the Klipsch's so far...

Dave
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
But...Klipsch killers? I don't think so. The wattage (RMS) is not even close and the build quality isn't either. Notice that the satellites are "hard wired." I.E. the wire is permanently connected to them, as oppossed to a removeable plug, like the Klipsch PMs.
Well, RMS wattage doesn't really mean jack. There are PLENTY of lower wattage systems that sound immensely better than other systems with higher ratings.

And while I certainly appreciate the removable plug, that has little (read: nothing) to do with sound quality.

A couple of years ago, I walked into a local Hi-Fi shop to buy the Klipsch PM's. I told a friend (DivineMartyr) that I was on my way to the store, and he talked me into listening to the BA-4800's first. I thought, "Whatever. I suppose if they have them, I'll take a quick listen." After about 30 minutes of a side-by-side comparison, I walked out with the 4800's.

Imho (and yes, this is just MY opinion), the BA's had a warmer sound with better mid-range. Sure the bass isn't as powerful... But the whole setup just sounded more accurate. And I've never been a fan of the Klipsch horn tweeters. They sound a bit "shrilly" to me. Shrilly highs and booming bass, with nothing much in between, pretty much summed up the PM's.

Keep in mind that this is just one average guy's opinion. I'm no audiophile, and I don't own a $10,000 HT setup. I just know what I like. :)

Boston Acoustics makes AWESOME speakers, and their customer support is second to none! (But that's another story.) :)
 

Novgrod

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Would I be presumptuous to credit Klipsch for the bevy of higher-quality not-insanely-priced computer speakers coming to market over the past couple years?

I already credit Klipsch for pissing off the people in the apartment above me.

 

Insane3D

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Speaker reviews are sometimes couterproductive anyway since it is such a subjective thing. Each person's ear is different, and 50 reviewers might say something is awesome, but to you it sounds like crap...or vice versa.

For every 10 people who think the BA's sound better, there will be 10 people who think the PM's sound better. I take all speaker reviews with a grain of salt anyways...

:)
 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: Adul
but i am sure we can all agree that most people would notice a diff between these speaker and the 10 dollar special ones :p

True...true...



Although....I have sweet setup consisting of two tin cans and a long string...and it kills anything out there!!

:p
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Speaker reviews are sometimes couterproductive anyway since it is such a subjective thing. Each person's ear is different, and 50 reviewers might say something is awesome, but to you it sounds like crap...or vice versa.

For every 10 people who think the BA's sound better, there will be 10 people who think the PM's sound better. I take all speaker reviews with a grain of salt anyways...

:)
Ahhh-HA! So YOU'RE the guy! (I knew there was someone around here who "gets it.") ;)

 

Pariah

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I'm not big fan of the Klipch PM, I'm partial to the Creative 510D myself, but shouldn't Klipsch Krushers be awarded at least a Gold Approval instead of the Silver they got? Everyone's tastes differ with audio, and your intended use will have a large impact on what you decide to go with, but it looks like the only place these BA excelled were in stereo music reproduction which very few people have as their number one criteria when buying a 4.1 computer speaker setup. I think the best general use speaker set for the PC in this price range is the 510D's which didn't get included in this roundup because they were 5.1. I haven't had a chance to sit down and listen to the updated THX 550 set, though I doubt it sounds worse than the original. Of course they do cost a decent amount more (245 for 510D, 290 for THX 550), so if cost is a concern keep moving along, but it's just further evidence that Klipsch isn't the only game in town any more and that you can find a number of good, and depending on your tastes better, alternatives to the PM's.
 

HendrixFan

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Klipsch brought quality audio to the PC, and manufacturers had to respond in kind or lose out. Its good to see more quality speakers coming at an affordable price.

Speakers are certainly a very subjective subject, and its always best to give everything a listen before you buy. Personally I love the "bright" sound that Klipsch delivers, though Ive met people who would rather a "warmer" softer sound.

 

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
It's cool that you posted this. Ironically, they look remarkably like Klipsch ProMedias. That's no accident, I'm sure.

But...Klipsch killers? I don't think so. The wattage (RMS) is not even close and the build quality isn't either. Notice that the satellites are "hard wired." I.E. the wire is permanently connected to them, as oppossed to a removeable plug, like the Klipsch PMs.

To ME, they appear to be a lame attempt at PM clones. That said, I would like to hear them, to ascertain how good/bad they are before passing FINAL judgement. I'm sure they sound good. BA makes quality stuff, that's for sure.

The B7800s are actually louder than the PM 4.1s at standard listening position. Clones or not, listen to them if you ever get the chance. You'll hear the difference!
 

Smilin

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
3Dsoundsurge.com (finally) posts its review of the BA7800 speakers!

Linky!

You've got to be kidding me. They don't even have half the power of the klipsch. Even assuming they are simply wonderful sounding speakers if you give them any volume the amp will clip all over the place and you'll have liquid-acoustic-sh*t pouring out of your sound system.

Everyone is looking for Klipsch killers because they don't want to pay the premium in price on the PM 5.1's. If you can't play with the big-dogs stay the f*ck on the porch.

Klipsch Krushers my a**
 

Darien

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Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
3Dsoundsurge.com (finally) posts its review of the BA7800 speakers!

Linky!

You've got to be kidding me. They don't even have half the power of the klipsch. Even assuming they are simply wonderful sounding speakers if you give them any volume the amp will clip all over the place and you'll have liquid-acoustic-sh*t pouring out of your sound system.

Everyone is looking for Klipsch killers because they don't want to pay the premium in price on the PM 5.1's. If you can't play with the big-dogs stay the f*ck on the porch.

Klipsch Krushers my a**



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Alptraum

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You've got to be kidding me. They don't even have half the power of the klipsch. Even assuming they are simply wonderful sounding speakers if you give them any volume the amp will clip all over the place and you'll have liquid-acoustic-sh*t pouring out of your sound system.

Everyone is looking for Klipsch killers because they don't want to pay the premium in price on the PM 5.1's. If you can't play with the big-dogs stay the f*ck on the porch.

Klipsch Krushers my a**


Based on the review I agree they are not "Klipsch Killers" by any means. However you shouldn't base that opinion on power. Effeciency of speakers has a lot to do with it. My main stereo speakers can sound louder with 50 watts then many can with 100 or more. Thats because they are very effecient. I drive them with 200 though, heh. But I have heard high quality 20watt amps driving high quality and effecient speakers that can get plenty loud. Effeciency and high quality don't always go together, nor do they have to. Some great sounding electrostats are some of the least effecient speakers out there and you need massived amounts of power to drive them well. So you can get high quality speakers that are very effecient or not very effecient at all. But power alone does not really tell you much.
 

GrumpyMan

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There is a reason all speakers are compared to Klipsch's first and then the rest.
 

BD2003

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A while ago I had klipsch 4.1s. Wanted more bass, so I got z560s. Wanted better sound, so I bought videologic digitheater dts. Wanted more bass and clearer sound, so I went with a full HT system with 12inch sub and paradigm speakers. Eventually it became a little too expensive to keep, but I didnt want to lose all the great sound I was having.

Tried the BA7800s out, and they are by FAR the best sounding multimedia speakers out there. There is really no comparison, and I've heard them all. The bass is so clean its amazing. But it can get low and thump. The front satellites with tweeters are as clear as they can get. I'm a little bleh on the rears, but I dont use them for music.

And they only cost me $125. Buying anything else is a waste.