They sure gave you some good info apoppin. That was sarcastic. So what set should I buy, should I get the v2-400's from best buy, the new 4.1 one backorder or the dual 2.1, 4.2 setup? I listen to music play games, and watch DVD's, but I am not an audiophile. I can't say for sure, but i will prolly not notice the differance in midrange from the discontinued model and the new 4.1's unless it is a mjaor change. I don't need a headphone jack or the MP3 jack really, so that is not much of a factor, if I do go with one of the newer sets, that will not be the reason. I just wish i coul here these new ones, before i decide, plus I just think the second sub would be cool as hell. Why do you keep saying the 2.1 deal is a scam and then say to get it apoppin. Do you think it is a good setup.