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TheNinja

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Jan 22, 2003
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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Staley8
Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
released on $7500 bail ??

after already fleeing ???

That's probably a year's salary, and no i'm not kidding or making fun of the guy at all. That's reality in some places.

I heard Daniel Carver, he's a Grand Wizard or whatever in the KKK, on Howard Stern and he only makes $8,000 a year.

Haha, that's where I heard that, I couldn't remember where. Daniel Carver is playing football pickem on Howard Stern vs Artie Lange, Gary the retard, and a chicken, I think he is winning too and he says "$25,000 is 3 years salary for me Artie whereas it is probably 3 months for you, so you can see why I need the win".
That guy is actually very interesting. He doesn't really hate people who aren't white, he just wants the white people to remain "pure". He thinks other races are basically animals and that white people should not interact or even acknowledge any other races. It seems that his group of KKK people are different than what I would consider neo-nazis who want to kill everyone who isn't white. He is still WAY whacked out though, don't get me wrong.
 

EyeMWing

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Jun 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: StormRider
KKK Initiation

Not that I'm complaining, but I thought the terminal velocity of bullets reentering the ground when fired straight up was inefficient to do major damage

The deceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. The acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. Therefore, the bullet with hit the ground with more than muzzle velocity (It will reach muzzle velocity at the height at which the tip of the barrel was). Pwned.

Edit: Of course, taking into account the physics of actually falling through the atmosphere, it's not going to pick up ALL it's speed again. But it'll still get MAD FRICKIN FAST.
 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: PatboyX
i smell a darwin coming!
Nope, in this case I doubt it's elligable for a Darwin. To get a Darwin, he has to kill himself; it's the dumbass shooting the gun that did the killing in this case.
 

911paramedic

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Jan 7, 2002
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I'm surprised those morons didn't fire the paintball gun into the air and shoot him with guns.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: StormRider
KKK Initiation

Not that I'm complaining, but I thought the terminal velocity of bullets reentering the ground when fired straight up was inefficient to do major damage
I guess this puts the lie to that theory. Does that mean there won't be any more threads on the subject?

hrm? when the bullet comes down, its going at the same speed it was going when it was at that point in its ascent. so the bullet would be going just marginally slower than if the gun was actually shot at Murr's head.
Nope. There was a huge thread about this a while back. That's not true.
 

zixxer

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Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: StormRider
KKK Initiation

Not that I'm complaining, but I thought the terminal velocity of bullets reentering the ground when fired straight up was inefficient to do major damage

The deceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. The acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. Therefore, the bullet with hit the ground with more than muzzle velocity (It will reach muzzle velocity at the height at which the tip of the barrel was). Pwned.

Edit: Of course, taking into account the physics of actually falling through the atmosphere, it's not going to pick up ALL it's speed again. But it'll still get MAD FRICKIN FAST.


Your wrong.

This was actually disproved on myth busters. They talked about dropping a small ball or something off of the empire state building.. and it wasn't near enough to kill something. It broke the skin, but not the skull of their realistic fake skull. A bullet might go faster, but prolly not *that* much faster..


EDIT:
This kid lived:
http://www.krqe.com/expanded3.asp?RECORD_KEY%5BLargeHeadline%5D=ID&ID%5BLargeHeadline%5D=1586

This explains friction to the idiots:
http://www.loadammo.com/Topics/March01.htm

 

lowtech1

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Mar 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: StormRider
KKK Initiation

Not that I'm complaining, but I thought the terminal velocity of bullets reentering the ground when fired straight up was inefficient to do major damage

The deceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. The acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. Therefore, the bullet with hit the ground with more than muzzle velocity (It will reach muzzle velocity at the height at which the tip of the barrel was). Pwned.

Edit: Of course, taking into account the physics of actually falling through the atmosphere, it's not going to pick up ALL it's speed again. But it'll still get MAD FRICKIN FAST.
Air is a medium that the bullet must travel through.

 

JBT

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Nov 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
I'm surprised those morons didn't fire the paintball gun into the air and shoot him with guns.

HA no kidding
 

lowtech1

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Mar 9, 2000
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The Straight Dope -- Can a bullet fired into the air kill someone when it comes down?

For further insight, we turn to Hatcher's Notebook (1962) by Major General Julian S. Hatcher, a U.S. Army ordnance expert. Hatcher described military tests with, among other things, a .30 caliber bullet weighing .021 pounds. Using a special rig, the testers shot the bullet straight into the air. It came down bottom (not point) first at what was later computed to be about 300 feet per second. "With the [.021 pound] bullet, this corresponds to an energy of 30 foot pounds," Hatcher wrote. "Previously, the army had decided that on the average an energy of 60 foot pounds is required to produce a disabling wound. Thus, service bullets returning from extreme heights cannot be considered lethal by this standard."

If 30 foot pounds doesn't mean much to you, the bullet made a mark about one-sixteenth of an inch deep in a soft pine board. About what you'd get giving it a good whack with a hammer. Note that we're talking about bullets shot straight up here. If the bullet is fired more or less horizontally, it may not lose much speed before returning to earth and could easily kill someone.

Datum 2. Then someone sent me an article from the Los Angeles Times about the problem of falling bullets in L.A. around New Year's and the Fourth of July. According to the article, doctors at King/Drew Medical Center, a major L.A. trauma center, published a report in a medical journal (Journal of Trauma, December 1994) saying that between 1985 and 1992 they treated 118 people for falling bullet injuries around New Year's Eve or the Fourth of July. Thirty-eight of the victims died.

Datum 3. Still, the question isn't how many people get injured or killed by falling bullets, it's whether such things are possible at all. On further investigation, it appears the 60 foot-pound injury threshold cited by Hatcher may be misleading--a falling bullet's kinetic energy (foot pounds) alone is not a good predictor of the speed it needs to inflict a wound. B. N. Mattoo (Journal of Forensic Sciences, 1984) has proposed an equation relating mass and bullet diameter that seems to do a better job. Experiments on cadavers and such have shown, for example, that a .38 caliber revolver bullet will perforate the skin and lodge in the underlying tissue at 191 feet per second and that triple-ought buckshot will do so at 213 feet per second.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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we can do an easy test, someone that doesn't believe a bullet falls with enough force to maim/kill/penetrate stand at the bottom of the Sears Tower or Empire State Building, let anandtech drop dimes or pennies see how well you fare. I will send flowers.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: StormRider
KKK Initiation

Not that I'm complaining, but I thought the terminal velocity of bullets reentering the ground when fired straight up was inefficient to do major damage

The deceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. The acceleration due to gravity is 9.8m/s^2. Therefore, the bullet with hit the ground with more than muzzle velocity (It will reach muzzle velocity at the height at which the tip of the barrel was). Pwned.

Edit: Of course, taking into account the physics of actually falling through the atmosphere, it's not going to pick up ALL it's speed again. But it'll still get MAD FRICKIN FAST.


Your wrong.

This was actually disproved on myth busters. They talked about dropping a small ball or something off of the empire state building.. and it wasn't near enough to kill something. It broke the skin, but not the skull of their realistic fake skull. A bullet might go faster, but prolly not *that* much faster..

actrually didnt they disprove that a penny dropped from say the empire state building would kill someone?

 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: waggy

actrually didnt they disprove that a penny dropped from say the empire state building would kill someone?

The proof was it would not embed in concrete....however according to the Empire State Building statement "nothing has been dropped off it's roof either.'

A penny should be travelling close to 300 fps by the time it reaches the ground and assuming no updrafts.

However, I mentioned the collective force of AT being up there....and sort of in joke. A bullet will travel higher than the empire state building before it starts back down....it will reach terminal velocity in a lot less distance. Depending on the caliber of the bullet would determine the damage done.