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[Kitguru]Nvidia`s big Pascal GP100 have taped out - Q1 2016 release

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maddie said:
Kitguru is merely the intermediary.

Kitguru writes:

"An anonymous person presumably with access to confidential information in the semiconductor industry revealed in a post over at Beyond3D forums that Nvidia had already taped out its next-generation code-named GP100 graphics processing unit. Nowadays, a tape-out means that the design of an integrated circuit has been finalized, but the first actual chips materialize only months after their tape-out."

Did you even read the message?

An anonymous person
presumably with access to confidential information


Really guys, this is remarkable. How much leeway are they giving this source.

I think I should start creating some leaks myself.
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So whats your edvidence that nVidia is behind? Fake news and articles shouldnt be new to you with all the Fury information for example.
 
JDG1980 said:
I've seriously considered this. I wonder how hard it would be to get WCCFTech to report my speculations about the next Mac Pro as fact...
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Its uncanny easy. I tried it with a few frinds as a practical joke. A lot of sites pretty much eat up anything you serve without any form of source or material critisism.
 
Cloudfire777 said:
What a complete waste of time this forum is.
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There is a simple solution to that.

Anyway, how can people at this point trust TSMC's guidance on node roll outs? We were supposed to be on 28nm two years before it actually happened, and have been stuck on the node for what seems like an eternity. I am not blaming TSMC really the technical challenges of moving to smaller nodes has proved to be extremely difficult.
ShintaiDK said:
Its uncanny easy. I tried it with a few frinds as a practical joke. A lot of sites pretty much eat up anything you serve without any form of source or material critisism.
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I'm glad you pointed this out, this is exactly why we don't need random and dubious sources being posted as fact.
 
Cloudfire777 said:
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Volume production beginning in July next month

Nvidia Pascal GP100 and 16nm FinFET in early 2016 is most likely very legit 😉
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Volume production for 50-100mm2 chips eventualy, and at awfull yields, likely that a 500mm2 chip wouldnt even boot at this point, as for tape outs it is necessary to have the final specifications of the transistors, otherwise you cant tape out anything.

It s unlikely that they got the SDKs early enough to allow for a design being completed currently, the process is simply too recent, heck it doesnt exist elswhere than in TSMC slides and announcements.

All of this smell a PR campaign from a firm that know that it has nothing to counter their competitor perhaps till late 2016, never would Nvidia announce to recent customers that their cards will be obsolete in a matter of 9 months if they were sure that the GT9xx would hold the comparison, it is even counter productive since people interested by GT9XX could as well decide to wait next year releases.....
 
AnandThenMan said:
There is a simple solution to that.

Anyway, how can people at this point trust TSMC's guidance on node roll outs? We were supposed to be on 28nm two years before it actually happened, and have been stuck on the node for what seems like an eternity. I am not blaming TSMC really the technical challenges of moving to smaller nodes has proved to be extremely difficult.
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Easier with a picture or 2.

TSMC_Roadmap_Wide.jpg

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Cloudfire777 said:
Not impossible this is one of the reasons why Nvidia launched GTX 980Ti so quick after Titan X. They got a new beast coming out already in February next year based on Pascal
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more like this rumour and the 980ti release suggest they are doing what they can to distract from AMD
 
Hbm needs a rework driver wise to optimize the new memory subsystem

Big dies have the lowest possible yields at any given process, specially on ones ramping up new processes.

Tsmc has not much experience on finfet nodes, they also have a history of being late and having worse technical specs than their competitor's proceses.

Nvidia has a history of not meeting schedules when both a new architecture, a new process and a new memory subsystem are involved. They also dont have a history of good yield ramping up with their obsenely big dies as their top end skus.

Hbm1 ia still on its first steps and there is no guarantee hbm2 will be ready in meaningful quantities by the scheduled date this arcticle implies.

Anyone in their sane mind will see that article and piss their paints off laughing as it is remarkably unrealistic. Fact is you can tape out anything you want, to have a working product in the end with acceptable yields and good inventory is another matter entirely. This is just nvidia trying to steal the thunder and osbourning their current product stack in the process.
 
Cloudfire777 said:
Not impossible this is one of the reasons why Nvidia launched GTX 980Ti so quick after Titan X. They got a new beast coming out already in February next year based on Pascal
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If it does drop in Feb, it'll be for industrial/commercial products not consumer-oriented gaming products.
 
There's always a chance they drop the small GP106 first in Q1, kinda like GTX 750/Ti, with the full Pascal (GP200 series) following in Fall 2016. Or not.
 
So nvidia has gone for panic mode... what a surprise. 🙄

TSMC roadmaps are joke, nothing more that smoke and mirrors again.
 
Pinstripe said:
There's always a chance they drop the small GP106 first in Q1, kinda like GTX 750/Ti, with the full Pascal (GP200 series) following in Fall 2016. Or not.
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Wouldn't that be GP107, not GP106? The usual Nvidia layout is 8->7->6->4->0 smallest to biggest. GTX 750/Ti was GM107.
 
Someone please explain to me why people always consider rumors they don't like the work of paid shills? I don't quite get it.

Also why would anyone making an "nvidia shill" claim link to a semiaccurate post? SA and SA forums are basically the modern version of AMD zone.
 
Alatar said:
Someone please explain to me why people always consider rumors they don't like the work of paid shills? I don't quite get it.
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So they are not automatically shills, quite possible after all, but then :

Alatar said:
Also why would anyone making an "nvidia shill" claim link to a semiaccurate post? SA and SA forums are basically the modern version of AMD zone.
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So in this site they, including me, are all shills, a big thank you to help us differentiate between the good and the bad, your arguments are indeed indiscutable...
 
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