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Kiss your Sweet 'OL BIOS GOODBYE!
- Thread starter Googer
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I'm not on top of this, but it would seem to me that the point is to run the CPU in '386 protected mode, or even AMD86-64* compatibility mode,.. or even AMD86-64 long mode.
Instead of BIOS' old 8086 16-bit real mode.
This would mean that the BIOS-replacement, UEFI, can become much, much more powerful and 'intelligent'. It could then address hardware and memory in a modern manner, just like the OS and its device-drivers, and run multithreaded software.
It would also open the door for the next stage in x'86 CPU development. Dropping the "'86". That is, getting rid of 8086/88 real mode, '286 16-bit protected mode and '386 virtual real mode. It would probably not drop transistor count terribly much, but it would do something. Anyway, it would be nice to get that thrash sweeped away from the ISA's front lawn.
(*: In general contexts, I will henceforth refer to what is sometimes called x86-64, or marketed as EM64T (Emergency Marketable 64-bit Technology), by it's original name AMD86-64, or the derivative "AMD64". Just me being a bigot. 😛 )
Instead of BIOS' old 8086 16-bit real mode.
This would mean that the BIOS-replacement, UEFI, can become much, much more powerful and 'intelligent'. It could then address hardware and memory in a modern manner, just like the OS and its device-drivers, and run multithreaded software.
It would also open the door for the next stage in x'86 CPU development. Dropping the "'86". That is, getting rid of 8086/88 real mode, '286 16-bit protected mode and '386 virtual real mode. It would probably not drop transistor count terribly much, but it would do something. Anyway, it would be nice to get that thrash sweeped away from the ISA's front lawn.
(*: In general contexts, I will henceforth refer to what is sometimes called x86-64, or marketed as EM64T (Emergency Marketable 64-bit Technology), by it's original name AMD86-64, or the derivative "AMD64". Just me being a bigot. 😛 )
Jeff7
Lifer
Heh, I had a Supermicro P6SLA motherboard - something from the Pentium II days, and it had a graphic interface BIOS with mouse support.
Some old laptops, like original Pentium-level laptops, even had this, but they "cheated" and stashed a lot of that code on a hidden hard drive partition. So you basically lost your BIOS interface if you switched hard drives without cloning the partition that you couldn't see.
MobiusPizza
Platinum Member
Well only I need is diagnoses software like memtest and checkdisk embedded in BIOS
MercenaryForHire
Lifer
What about
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- M4H
RadiclDreamer
Diamond Member
Havent people been spouting this stuff for a few years now? I love how every time people dream up something new, they always declare we can kiss XXXXX goodbye but its usually quite a few years before we actually do it
imported_DaveA
Senior member
fyi i had a dual pentium 2 setup that had a mouse in bios.
The Boston Dangler
Lifer
The new firmware system will have DRM embedded, and sometimes depend on DRM for basic functions. Microsoft, et al, have said DRM will not be neccessary for a system to operate, but we know better. They will force DRM whether you like it or not, whether you know it or not.
Example:
You want to make a copy of a commercial music CD you paid for, for PERSONAL use (like listening on the road, jogging, whatever). THIS IS FAIR USE!!! Even with 3rd party rippers, encoders and stuff, serial numbers and copy flags are coded into the sound, because everything will be under the control of the new, more capable, firmware. "Annonamous usage statistics." Get used to seeing that on everything. Maybe the song plays properly, maybe not. Maybe your jogging copy works only for an extra fee. And on a certified device.
They say "if you don't like it, you can turn it off" And with it goes your computer's sound. Nothing but Windows beeps, dings, and dongs.
Stand-alone players/recorders are already well on their way there.
I don't rip off big media companies, and I don't dig when they rip off us, the customers.
Stay away from DualDisc. It's CD on one side, DVD on the other. The CD material does not adhere to standards (red book i think) and has difficulty playing in many stand-alone players, even new ones. If you opened it, you can't return it.
Example:
You want to make a copy of a commercial music CD you paid for, for PERSONAL use (like listening on the road, jogging, whatever). THIS IS FAIR USE!!! Even with 3rd party rippers, encoders and stuff, serial numbers and copy flags are coded into the sound, because everything will be under the control of the new, more capable, firmware. "Annonamous usage statistics." Get used to seeing that on everything. Maybe the song plays properly, maybe not. Maybe your jogging copy works only for an extra fee. And on a certified device.
They say "if you don't like it, you can turn it off" And with it goes your computer's sound. Nothing but Windows beeps, dings, and dongs.
Stand-alone players/recorders are already well on their way there.
I don't rip off big media companies, and I don't dig when they rip off us, the customers.
Stay away from DualDisc. It's CD on one side, DVD on the other. The CD material does not adhere to standards (red book i think) and has difficulty playing in many stand-alone players, even new ones. If you opened it, you can't return it.
sharkeeper
Lifer
Palladium is coming! Palladium is coming!
And this time it ain't the British!
dukdukgoos
Golden Member
As long as DRM isn't required, and Linux isn't adversely affected, seems okay to me...
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