[KingPin] GTX-590 Max OC Extreme Cooling Madness!

[Elfear]

hmmm.. wonder what cpu they're going to use for it... may as well go balls to walls and OC an SB to 5.5ghz to drive them while he's at it

SB@5.5GHz would be child's play for these guys. I'm sure it will be pushed to the max with liquid Nitrogen. Here is a guy doing 5.9GHz on just a single stage.

I'd be curious to see if a Nehalem would bench higher since socket 1366 has 2x16 PCI-E lanes.

 

[Morg.]

There's a fat chance even a 6ghz SB is too slow to drive those full speed --

 

[Idontcare]

My respect to this guy! If he can fix the GTX590 issue then he has definitely put the engineers at nvidia to shame lol.. looking forward to his benchmarks!

Pretty sure the engineers at Nvidia could build a PCB version of the 590 that would handle 2000W if they were asked to.

After-market modding a 590 so that it can do it is not proof that the original engineers could not.

I suspect the original engineers were given a target production cost, including build time as well as PCB design/development time as well, and the product you see is the best any group of engineers could have come to while maximizing within the predefined constraints.

I have no doubt that if Nvidia's engineers were instructed to design the 590 such that it could deliver 50% gross margins while selling at an $800 price-point instead of the current $700 price-point then they would have endeavored to include even more robust PCB components (at the expense of pushing up the BoM for the 590).

 

[pcm81]

Pretty sure the engineers at Nvidia could build a PCB version of the 590 that would handle 2000W if they were asked to.

After-market modding a 590 so that it can do it is not proof that the original engineers could not.
yes
I suspect the original engineers were given a target production cost, including build time as well as PCB design/development time as well, and the product you see is the best any group of engineers could have come to while maximizing within the predefined constraints.
no
I have no doubt that if Nvidia's engineers were instructed to design the 590 such that it could deliver 50% gross margins while selling at an $800 price-point instead of the current $700 price-point then they would have endeavored to include even more robust PCB components (at the expense of pushing up the BoM for the 590).
no, but close

Overall score 1.5/3 = 50%

You cant build a Ferari using cast iron, but you can build a train, which will move slower but transport raw material in large quantities just as fast. Nvidia tried to build a ferari, because the train was grossly over PCI-E spec... Their competitor who uses more efficient core design, has succeeded at building the ferari.

Nvidia failed, because they could not deliver a functioning frari and they did not deliver the train either.

EDIT:
Just for the reference to above example, TiN is making the train, which 590 should have been.

 

[AdamK47]

Quick update. He is using 10x 6pin power connectors on 590. That's 750W of power...

I'd like to see a photo of that mod.

 

[Arkadrel]

So like... where are the benchmarks? (/.\)

He had the cooling solution down around the 24th right (post with pictures of the cooling)? its the 31st now...7days lateron (probably even longer since he started the project).

Makes you appreciate Anandtech and other reviewers that do their benchmarking in a day or so, vs however long this guy will take.

 

[pcm81]

So like... where are the benchmarks? (/.\)

He had the cooling solution down around the 24th right (post with pictures of the cooling)? its the 31st now...7days lateron (probably even longer since he started the project).

Makes you appreciate Anandtech and other reviewers that do their benchmarking in a day or so, vs however long this guy will take.

Did you read the part where it said he needs to add 10x 6 pin connectors and change out the power circuit on gtx 590?

 

[Dark Shroud]

So like... where are the benchmarks? (/.\)

He had the cooling solution down around the 24th right (post with pictures of the cooling)? its the 31st now...7days lateron (probably even longer since he started the project).

Makes you appreciate Anandtech and other reviewers that do their benchmarking in a day or so, vs however long this guy will take.

There is a good chance he is waiting on more parts / materials. Not to mention work like that takes time and his life doesn't revolve around those two cards.

 

[WelshBloke]

So like... where are the benchmarks? (/.\)

He had the cooling solution down around the 24th right (post with pictures of the cooling)? its the 31st now...7days lateron (probably even longer since he started the project).

Makes you appreciate Anandtech and other reviewers that do their benchmarking in a day or so, vs however long this guy will take.

Anandtech dont usually scavenge a bunch of spare parts and almost rebuild the stock card into the overclocking beasts these guys do.

The cooling pots are the simplest part of what he'll (hopefully) do to those cards.

 

[Kenmitch]

Seems like the task must of been much harder than anticipated

Thought you guys would wanna see what this guy can do as he seems pretty talented at what he does!

 

[notty22]

He broke some of his own records with gtx 580's, 7 LN pots going at once, lol
3DMark 11 and Vantage World Records Smashed by KingPin and TiN

 

[Arkadrel]

He broke some of his own records with gtx 580's, 7 LN pots going at once, lol
3DMark 11 and Vantage World Records Smashed by KingPin and TiN

3x1200watt PSUs ( 3600watts )

2x Intel Xeon X5690 (@5790mhz).
4x EVGA Geforce GTX 580 's in SLI (1190mhz Core, 1251mhz memory).

=

24,347 points in 3Dmark 11
79,364 points in 3Dmark Vantage



Very nice, but those are the 580s? what happend to the 590 benchmarking he was doing?

 

[notty22]

3x1200watt PSUs ( 3600watts )

2x Intel Xeon X5690 (@5790mhz).
4x EVGA Geforce GTX 580 's in SLI (1190mhz Core, 1251mhz memory).

=

24,347 points in 3Dmark 11
79,364 points in 3Dmark Vantage



Very nice, but those are the 580s? what happend to the 590 benchmarking he was doing?

Where are the AMD hardware enthusiasts ? Benchmark records ?

 

[Kenmitch]

Where are the AMD hardware enthusiasts ? Benchmark records ?

Not sure what that has to do with the original post.

Looks like the task has turned out to be alot harder than originally thought!

 

[Madcatatlas]

I guess silence speaks a thousand words about the turd of a card 590 was.

Othervise, he would have overvolted and oced that thing like mad, and we would have green team scream their lungs empty with bragging about results

 

[OCGuy]

It doesnt look good for AMD at all when niether their processors or GPUs are the go-to for breaking world records.

 

[Arkadrel]

It doesnt look good for AMD at all when niether their processors or GPUs are the go-to for breaking world records.

I agree on the CPU side.
I dis-agree on the GPU side.

on the GPU side, AMD are doing the small die stratagie thingy.
They dont make chips nearly as big as Nvidia, which is why they dont have the performance crown.

if AMD decided to match nvidia in power use TPD, and chip size, I think AMD would have the world records.

 

[Kenmitch]

It doesnt look good for AMD at all when niether their processors or GPUs are the go-to for breaking world records.

I doubt kingpin would have much fun running 6990's under LN2 as he'd most likely be limited by the cores and not the pcb's. From the looks of it he likes to tinker with electronics and not enjoy the out of box performance!

Another note: AMD is pretty much the only one keeping the wheels turning in the industry. Without AMD we'd be at the mercy of Intel and Nvidia.

 

[OCGuy]

Another note: AMD is pretty much the only one keeping the wheels turning in the industry. Without AMD we'd be at the mercy of Intel and Nvidia.

This is true on the GPU side. Because of AMD, my 2nd GTX280 cost $449 instead of the $649 that the first one cost.

 

[Meghan54]

You guys obviously don't know who Vince or TiN, or Shammy or AndreYang are. These guys are well experienced in extreme subzero clocking and cooling, and know exactly what parts of the card need to be covered or cooled with what. They have churned out loads of WR.

I'm quite aware of who Kingpin, TiN, et al are, and esp. the cheating on some "world record" scores that was perpetrated last year by a group of them.

After that debacle, the whole world record fascination has really gone down into the dumper.