King/ Dictator Obama strikes again. Rewrites Obamacare

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm finding this all terribly amusing.

 

[Moonbeam]

This thread is brain food for the conservative brain defect. I can feel a contact high. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Oh the chemicals in my brain, they take away my pain

Heigh-Ho the Derry-O

Altered reality is good for me.

 

[boomerang]

I'm not sure how many times you've gotten this quote wrong. You're a good little minion.

He has no quotation marks around it and you recognized it easily. Smells like...Mission Accomplished.

 

[Matt1970]

This thread is brain food for the conservative brain defect. I can feel a contact high. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Oh the chemicals in my brain, they take away my pain

Heigh-Ho the Derry-O

Altered reality is good for me.

I would have a massive headache right now if I was a liberal trying to keep up with which position Obama has so I can defend it. Obamacare will let you keep your plan and doctor, but now it's better to have the new plan, but even now you can have the old plan.

 

[nehalem256]

Even when they get what they said they wanted, they're still spiteful & bitey little abominations.

The Right raised some points, won the Obama Admin over. Is that not good enough? Should the Admin mimic the opposition, entrench themselves in unworkable positions? Hold their own party hostage to their whims?

So why did Obama shut the government down to keep the right from doing the reasonable thing that Obama then 2 months later decided to do after all?

 

[Matt1970]

He has no quotation marks around it and you recognized it easily. Smells like...Mission Accomplished.

Yep, he knew exactly who I was talking about. He was just trying pathetically to attack the messenger. A desperate grasp at straws.

 

[fskimospy]

Yep, he knew exactly who I was talking about. He was just trying pathetically to attack the messenger. A desperate grasp at straws.

I didn't know that telling the messenger he got his quote factually incorrect was attacking the messenger.

 

[Angry Irishman]

So many zealots.....

 

[werepossum]

I didn't know that telling the messenger he got his quote factually incorrect was attacking the messenger.

The quote may be factually incorrect, but given all the Democrat politicians now claiming that they passed Obamacare without knowing what was in it, his would be the more accurate phrase.

 

[shadow9d9]

When your title is lunacy, you can't expect people to take you seriously. Only your fellow nutters!

 

[fskimospy]

The quote may be factually incorrect, but given all the Democrat politicians now claiming that they passed Obamacare without knowing what was in it, his would be the more accurate phrase.

Nope.

 

[michal1980]

I would have a massive headache right now if I was a liberal trying to keep up with which position Obama has so I can defend it. Obamacare will let you keep your plan and doctor, but now it's better to have the new plan, but even now you can have the old plan.

and if you can't have your old plan, you can have no plan at all, but only if you had a plan before. If you were uninsured before, you still must by a plan. And that plan must be an Obamacare plan, because other plans don't qualify.

Oh and PS all these loop holes only apply until after the next election. After that, f-u.

 

[Jhhnn]

So why did Obama shut the government down to keep the right from doing the reasonable thing that Obama then 2 months later decided to do after all?

You posit a false scenario. Repubs refused to fund the ACA at all, a proposition not dependent upon this implementation delay.

Apples and aardvarks, sir. Learn to tell the difference.

 

[Matt1970]

What I originally said and I didn't put it in quotes - We have to pass the law so we can see what's in it.

Pelosi's quote word for word - "But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it"

To quote Hillary Clinton, "What difference does it make"

 

[First]

lol. Link to # of Congresspersons and citizens reading laws before they pass or STFU.

We have to pass the law so we can see what's in it. You're a good little minion.

That's what I thought, troll.

 

[Matt1970]

That's what I thought, troll.

Learn what a troll is.

 

[kage69]

Are you people this stupid? How many times has this been communicated to you?

1.) This is an expansion of the hardship exemption, not a rewriting of the law. Hardship exemptions are determined by the HHS secretary, and this is totally within their legal authority to do. If you don't like that it's fine, but the idea that Obama is rewriting the law is... well.. false.

2.) The reason for not giving into the Republicans on the government shutdown was always one thing and one thing alone: you don't give in to hostage taking. It didn't matter if it was about the ACA, about taxes, about spending, about anything. Did you guys forget about how the Republicans tried to move away from the ACA and talk about spending cuts instead and that was ignored as well?

Repeat after me: the debt ceiling/government shutdown was about not giving in to hostage taking. Nothing else.

3.) This appears to affect approximately 500,000 people as of best estimates. Delay of the individual mandate? Hardly.

You guys really do fall for anything, don't you.

Haven't seen a circle jerk this fervent in awhile, and then you had to go ruin it.

Good DAY sir!

 

[First]

Learn what a troll is.

We know you're a troll, no one intelligent is confused or fooled into thinking otherwise.

 

[feralkid]

i know. its fucking pissing me off. the damn obamacare is making republicans look they know what they are doing.

You are aware that The A.C.A. is based on a Republican plan, right?

 

[MiniDoom]

You are aware that The A.C.A. is based on a Republican plan, right?

How many republicans voted for the ACA?

 

[werepossum]

You are aware that The A.C.A. is based on a Republican plan, right?

There was no Republican plan which called for the nationalization of health insurance, ever. There was a libertarian plan endorsed by SOME Republicans which included one part of Obamacare, the mandate or requirement to have health insurance.

 

[fskimospy]

There was no Republican plan which called for the nationalization of health insurance, ever. There was a libertarian plan endorsed by SOME Republicans which included one part of Obamacare, the mandate or requirement to have health insurance.

But the ACA didn't nationalize health insurance, so I'm not sure why you would bring that up.

 

[theeedude]

But the ACA didn't nationalize health insurance, so I'm not sure why you would bring that up.

Because he's wearing red colored glasses.

 

[werepossum]

But the ACA didn't nationalize health insurance, so I'm not sure why you would bring that up.

Right. The bureaucracy merely tells the insurance companies exactly what they must offer, what they must charge for it, and how much gross profit they are allowed to make. Oh, and makes them give away a buttload of stuff for free with it. Completely different, of course.

 

[fskimospy]

Right. The bureaucracy merely tells the insurance companies exactly what they must offer, what they must charge for it, and how much gross profit they are allowed to make. Oh, and makes them give away a buttload of stuff for free with it. Completely different, of course.

Nationalization has a very specific meaning. Allow me to quote it for you:

1. To convert from private to governmental ownership and control: nationalize the steel industry.

The government does not own the insurance industry, therefore it is not nationalized. You are confusing regulation with nationalization. If you believe this to be nationalization please provide a single nonpartisan source that describes it as such.