Kindle, WiFi Only, 139 USD. Price war?

Bateluer

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/new-amazon-kindle-announced-139-wifi-only-version-and-189-3g/

This is good, nice 30 day battery life with the wireless off. Very impressive. Small and slim too. We'll have to see how Barnes and Noble counters, possibly with trimming the price? I know they've got a nook 2 in development, but neither company should be putting out next gen readers every 6 months. Not unless they get the prices much cheaper.

Let's be honest -- you saw this one coming, didn't you? Today Amazon is introducing a new reading device for e-book aficionados dubbed simply... the Kindle. The new handheld -- slated to be released on August 27th -- is 21 percent smaller and 15 percent lighter than the previous model, has a 20 percent faster refresh rate on its E Ink (yep, still E Ink) screen, and will now come in two colors (graphite, like its big brother the DX, and the original white). In addition to the color changes, there will be two radio configurations available: a $139 WiFi only version, and a $189 3G version (utilizing AT&T's network, just like the last model). The screen will remain the same 6-inch size as the last two Kindles, though the company claims page turns are faster and contrast is improved. The internal storage on the device has been cranked to 4GB, and the battery life is now rated at a month with no wireless, and 10 days with wireless switched on. The company also announced plans for a UK-localized version at £109 and £149, respectively, as well as a UK e-book store.

Along with the big changes, there have been minor tweaks as well -- the keyboard and five-way controls have been streamlined and altered slightly. The rocker is now more compact and flush with the device, and the side buttons have been modified in length to emphasize the forward paddles, while the back buttons have been downsized. Software wise, there are some interesting new features, the most notable being the inclusion of an "experimental" Webkit-based browser. If you're expecting future iterations to go even bolder with their multimedia capabilities, we kindly direct you to some choice quotes by Amazon's Jeff Bezos, care of WSJ: "For the vast majority of books, adding video and animation is not going to be helpful. It is distracting rather than enhancing. You are not going to improve Hemingway by adding video snippets," adding later, "there are going to be 100 companies making LCD [screen] tablets... why would we want to be 101? I like building a purpose-built reading device. I think that is where we can make a real contribution."

We had a chance to play with the device for a short while during a meeting with the company, and we can report that the Kindle is still very much the reading device you know and love (or hate, depending on your preferences). The build quality and materials used did seem slightly more polished than the previous version, and we really liked the new, more subtle rocker. We can also attest to screen refreshes and overall navigation feeling noticeably more responsive and snappy compared with the previous generation. Amazon was showing off a jacket accessory which will be made available at launch that includes a small, pull-out light for late-night reading sessions. We're sure it will please a lot of folks eager to keep their partners undisturbed while they tear through The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. We'll have a full review as soon as we can get our hands on the device, but for now, check out all the details in the video and PR after the break, and feast your eyes on the handful of press shots in the gallery below.
 
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Spoooon

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Pretty awesome. Though I'd rather see an ebook price war rather than one for the readers. :)

I agree with the dedicated ereader idea. Room for a dedicated device and a jack of all trades one.
 

EarthwormJim

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ok, at this price, it's closer to something I would buy. How is PDF support on these things now?

They can display .pdf's, however they're displayed more like an image. So no text manipulation/resizing.

You're better off just converting .pdf's to plain text or one of the open ebook formats the kindle supports. That way you can resize text, and the kindle will fit text properly to the screen.
 

charrison

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I wonder if this is a response to the nook, or amazon seeing sales going up 3x since the last price drop.
 

Bateluer

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As I've said before, eReaders like the Kindles, nooks, and Kobos will be the salvation of the print industry. They need to embrace the devices. Amazon and B&N need to leverage their positions and say if you want us to sell your book, you need a digital version.
 

EarthwormJim

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As I've said before, eReaders like the Kindles, nooks, and Kobos will be the salvation of the print industry. They need to embrace the devices. Amazon and B&N need to leverage their positions and say if you want us to sell your book, you need a digital version.

I think at this point, the majority of all newly printed books are available in electronic form.


My problem with the ebook industry is the price of the ebooks. Why am I paying the same if not more for an ebook compared to a real book?

There's very little manufacturing cost, there's no transportation cost, there's no lost revenue from already manufactured books going unsold (publishers buy back unsold books from book stores), and these ebooks can be sold indefinitely with no need to retool printing precess for another run of an old book.

I should be seeing these savings as a consumer, not all of them, but at least SOME of them.

I should certainly never pay more for an ebook, or wait for it to come out longer than the 1st edition hardcover.


And don't tell me I'm paying more for convenience, I already payed that extra by buying the eReader device.


I do like my Mom's Kindle a lot. At this price I might just get one anyway for myself. I'm rather quickly running out of space with my 600+ hardcover book collection as it is.
 

Bateluer

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I think at this point, the majority of all newly printed books are available in electronic form.


My problem with the ebook industry is the price of the ebooks. Why am I paying the same if not more for an ebook compared to a real book?

There's very little manufacturing cost, there's no transportation cost, there's no lost revenue from already manufactured books going unsold (publishers buy back unsold books from book stores), and these ebooks can be sold indefinitely with no need to retool printing precess for another run of an old book.

I should be seeing these savings as a consumer, not all of them, but at least SOME of them.

I should certainly never pay more for an ebook, or wait for it to come out longer than the 1st edition hardcover.


And don't tell me I'm paying more for convenience, I already payed that extra by buying the eReader device.


I do like my Mom's Kindle a lot. At this price I might just get one anyway for myself. I'm rather quickly running out of space with my 600+ hardcover book collection as it is.

Profit. Publishers and content owners(not authors, btw) are pocketing the extra cash, not passing the savings along to the consumer.
 

MagickMan

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I just wouldn't want a Kindle after using my nook. Once you've casually flicked a finger over the LCD to turn pages, you're hooked.
 

Synomenon

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I'm returning my Nook for the new Kindle. Wasn't satisfied with the Nook's screen contrast even after trying different font / size combos. Also, most of the books I like are cheaper through Amazon than B&N.

Hopefully the 50% increased contrast on the new Kindle is what I'm looking for.
 
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boomhower

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Now to hit up eBay for a $100 Kindle 2 when everybody upgrades....

Actually I would prefer a Nook.....
 

gorcorps

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/new-amazon-kindle-announced-139-wifi-only-version-and-189-3g/

This is good, nice 30 day battery life with the wireless off. Very impressive. Small and slim too. We'll have to see how Barnes and Noble counters, possibly with trimming the price? I know they've got a nook 2 in development, but neither company should be putting out next gen readers every 6 months. Not unless they get the prices much cheaper.

B&N won't do anything, and won't need to. They were the first to drop prices on their ereaders, then amazon dropped the price of theirs to $10 less than that. B&N released a wifi only version, and now Amazon made one for $10 less. B&N is leading this pack as far as moving first on these ideas... Amazon just plays catch up.
 

corkyg

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New Kindles are now generally out of stock. This suggests a new model is imminent and Amazon has cleared the decks for it. So, not a price war, but getting rid of inventory.
 

Deeko

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Pretty good deal. Personally, I still think the 3G is worth the extra $50, but $139 is a very attractive price point.

However, I'm not really a huge fan of the new look.
 

Deeko

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$50 for no-monthly-fee 3G access? And now it has a WebKit browser? Damn, now I really want one!

Yea, considering people are willing to drop $130 for 3G on the iPad and then pay for the data, $50 extra for the 3G Kindle that includes your data access is a steal, especially with an upgraded browser.

Speaking of which, I hope said browser makes it into a software update for Kindle 2...
 

Born2bwire

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Uggg... still no epub. The way I've read that the Sony readers can interface with public libraries is pretty slick. *Sigh*
 

fatpat268

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Makes me kinda wish that I waited a few more months to buy mine.

I bought my kindle in april with my tax return at $260. I would've definitely grabbed the wifi one instead as I never really use the 3g. The 3g is only ever on when I buy a book, and that's it.

I can't see a new web browser being all that much better honestly. Granted, the current kindle browser has a problem display webpages, and the slow refresh rate doesn't help either. I just wish amazon would release some purpose built applications like an email reader or a wikipedia app, and I'd use the 3g a bit more (not that amazon cares, i'm sure).


Uggg... still no epub. The way I've read that the Sony readers can interface with public libraries is pretty slick. *Sigh*

Eh, what difference does it make? Take any non-drm epub (or any other ebook file) through calibre and let it do its magic.

Seriously, calibre should be a required program for anyone using an e-reader.
 

Dulanic

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I am very torn on wether or not to purchase. I can't know how the Kindle webrowser works with what I need it for until I can try it. I can load books for free through my work with books 24x7 mobile site. I am hoping this works on the kindle.

I do have a question tho. If me and my wife both have one, and we purchase a copy of a ebook.... can we both load it? It seems so with their reading the book on multiple devices like PC, mobile phone, kindle.... but Im not sure.
 
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Deeko

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I am very torn on wether or not to purchase. I can't know how the Kindle webrowser works with what I need it for until I can try it. I can load books for free through my work with books 24x7 mobile site. I am hoping this works on the kindle.

I do have a question tho. If me and my wife both have one, and we purchase a copy of a ebook.... can we both load it? It seems so with their reading the book on multiple devices like PC, mobile phone, kindle.... but Im not sure.

If you use the same Amazon account.
 

Dulanic

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That's easy enough, we both have our own, but we can order all the ebooks through one account.