Kinder, Gentler, Saner

[gingermeggs]

She better look out or daddy will cut her allowance!!!!!

 

[gingermeggs]

Mary Cheney- how could you love men, if you believe they are like your father!

 

[Red Dawn]

I make perfect sense.

Gov't shouldn't be involved in the "marriage" business. They can be involved in contracts as they are for other things.
No, that does not mean I am for "same sex marriage".

There is no "right" of marriage. marriage is a religious entity that should stay there. The gov't has no business in the matter.

So then you're OK with Gays getting married if some Religion sanctifies it and you're against the government forbiding it.

The Christian, Jewish and Muslim Fundie Monkeys would shit. Good they shouldn't have any say in anything what so ever.

 

[Scotteq]

This was added in just recently(last decade, likely 2004/5 when every other State was tripping over itself to make sure Gays couldn't get Married), was it not?

What was added/changed is that (in 2007) NJ did the "Civil Union" cop~out, rather than abolish the very old law that says "Marriage = Opposite Sexes".

 

[Scotteq]

Great. So what you're advocating, then, is that rather than ADDING another marriage group that receives special marriage benefits from the government, which would "make government larger," government should instead REMOVE all special marriage benefits from heterosexual couples, which will make government smaller. Have I got that right?

Remove the laws that say 'Marriage = Man and Woman', and simply declare yourselves with the (town clerk) where you live for Tax/Insurance/Inheritance purposes.


There - The Government just got a little tiny bit smaller, and everyone gets treated equally in the eyes of the law.

 

[Scotteq]

Funny as in 'funny if you think like a moron'?

When government tried to outlaw interracial marriage this expansion of government regulation was shot down by the Supreme Court, not by additional legislation. The excessive use of government to limit marriage only to straights will go down the same way, by the court ruling it as an unconstitutional expansionist interference with fundamental rights. You fucktards always feel as if government interferes when the bigotry you thought was your right to practice is subtracted away. Spend some time at the morgue and see if you can find a better brain.

The problem here, MoonDouche: Is that the government in many/most locations *ALREADY* specifies "Man/Woman". Those are the laws we would abolish.

But you LefTards are hollering at the guy who has been saying those laws should go away because they're discriminatory... Why!?!? Because... you want (equally discriminatory, if you ask me) a special set of laws saying Homosexuals can marry...


Listen up, Dipshit: If/when you abolish the laws that say "Marriage = Man + Woman", then gay Marriage *IS* legal, since there is nothing in the law to prevent it.


It's from idiots like you why the expression "Liberalism Is A Mental Disease" exists.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

So then you're OK with Gays getting married if some Religion sanctifies it and you're against the government forbiding it.

The Christian, Jewish and Muslim Fundie Monkeys would shit. Good they shouldn't have any say in anything what so ever.

What other certain man-made "religions" do doesn't change anything. Our gov't should not be in this business. To the state, my marriage is a contract - it should only be a contract. No name in front like "marriage" or "domestic" or other such nonsense. Call it a contract and let it be.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Great. So what you're advocating, then, is that rather than ADDING another marriage group that receives special marriage benefits from the government, which would "make government larger," government should instead REMOVE all special marriage benefits from heterosexual couples, which will make government smaller. Have I got that right?

Pretty much - yes.

 

[Red Dawn]

What other certain man-made "religions" do doesn't change anything. Our gov't should not be in this business. To the state, my marriage is a contract - it should only be a contract. No name in front like "marriage" or "domestic" or other such nonsense. Call it a contract and let it be.

Or call it marriage and let it be. The only ones who'll be upset are the Religious Fundie Whackos and who gives a flying fuck what they think?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Or call it marriage and let it be. The only ones who'll be upset are the Religious Fundie Whackos and who gives a flying fuck what they think?

Or the people that care about the language and/or want the gov't to stop codifying a religious institution. The gov't should be blind to all this, so lets take the seeing power away from them.

 

[Red Dawn]

Or the people that care about the language and/or want the gov't to stop codifying a religious institution. The gov't should be blind to all this, so lets take the seeing power away from them.

Why bother.

 

[thraashman]

The problem here, MoonDouche: Is that the government in many/most locations *ALREADY* specifies "Man/Woman". Those are the laws we would abolish.

But you LefTards are hollering at the guy who has been saying those laws should go away because they're discriminatory... Why!?!? Because... you want (equally discriminatory, if you ask me) a special set of laws saying Homosexuals can marry...


Listen up, Dipshit: If/when you abolish the laws that say "Marriage = Man + Woman", then gay Marriage *IS* legal, since there is nothing in the law to prevent it.


It's from idiots like you why the expression "Liberalism Is A Mental Disease" exists.

The quote you appear to be going for is Liberalism is a disease of the mind that weakens and corrupts human beings.
FYI, the above, 1939 - Adolf Hitler.

You should probably know who you seem to be quoting and agreeing with before you do it. Not saying you're Hitler or a Nazi, just saying you obviously don't think much before you speak or you'd probably choose a better person to quote.

 

[Scotteq]

The quote you appear to be going for is Liberalism is a disease of the mind that weakens and corrupts human beings.
FYI, the above, 1939 - Adolf Hitler.

You should probably know who you seem to be quoting and agreeing with before you do it. Not saying you're Hitler or a Nazi, just saying you obviously don't think much before you speak or you'd probably choose a better person to quote.

..and I would think the Libs here would carry themselves in such a manner as to make such a quote not applicable.

Sadly, this isn't the case - since our resident libtards go after people who *agree* with them, simply because said agreement isn't delivered in the manner they proscribe.

 

[werepossum]

So then you're OK with Gays getting married if some Religion sanctifies it and you're against the government forbiding it.

The Christian, Jewish and Muslim Fundie Monkeys would shit. Good they shouldn't have any say in anything what so ever.

LOL Page five and one liberal finally understands Cad's point and how it relates to solving the issue of the discrimination. Congrats, you're smarter than the average bear. (And no, that's not sarcasm.)

Congrats to Cad too, you've shown at least one person a different approach. (He may not come to prefer it, but he clearly understands it.)

 

[CADsortaGUY]

LOL Page five and one liberal finally understands Cad's point and how it relates to solving the issue of the discrimination. Congrats, you're smarter than the average bear. (And no, that's not sarcasm.)

Congrats to Cad too, you've shown at least one person a different approach. (He may not come to prefer it, but he clearly understands it.)

Yep one lib might get it kinda. The others will continue to stew because a stance like mine doesn't allow them to play the bigot card even though they will try. Their problem is that they WANT the gov't to regulate people's lives and this takes that away from them and their constant yapping about the R's wanting to regulate the bedroom. It pretty much shows them for the hypocrits they are on this subject.

 

[xj0hnx]

The quote you appear to be going for is Liberalism is a disease of the mind that weakens and corrupts human beings.
FYI, the above, 1939 - Adolf Hitler.

You should probably know who you seem to be quoting and agreeing with before you do it. Not saying you're Hitler or a Nazi, just saying you obviously don't think much before you speak or you'd probably choose a better person to quote.

"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" is a book written by Michael Savage, "Liberalism Is A Mental Disease" is also a popular slogan on shirts, stickers, and mugs on some right wing swag. So yea, Hitler may have said the words in your passive implication, but that doesn't mean that's where the idea originated.