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Kimmel Calls Obama out (to his face) on Pot Prohibition

Obama has been doing the exact opposite he promised when he was elected. He said he wouldn't go after medical marijuana, but his DEA thugs having been busting them left and right.

The number of medical marijuana locations have plummeted in California, thanks to Obama. Not even Bush went after medical marijuana this hard.
 
First thing Obama was going to do when he became President was to shut down the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. It's still open, what does that tell you.
 
Politically, it's probably smarter to do all the risky things in your second term since you are ineligible to run again. Imagine the firestorm that the Republicans would let down if they had ammunition like "Obama wants to let your kids get easier access to drugs!" It doesn't even matter how logical a decision is... the spin on anything drug related is too damn easy to manufacture, and works very well. No politician wants to commit "political suicide."

If Obama gets reelected, does that mean we will see it? I have no idea, but I think there would logically be a greater chance.
 
Aikouka said:
Politically, it's probably smarter to do all the risky things in your second term since you are ineligible to run again. Imagine the firestorm that the Republicans would let down if they had ammunition like "Obama wants to let your kids get easier access to drugs!" It doesn't even matter how logical a decision is... the spin on anything drug related is too damn easy to manufacture, and works very well. No politician wants to commit "political suicide."

If Obama gets reelected, does that mean we will see it? I have no idea, but I think there would logically be a greater chance.
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Doubt it, Obama has already been more strict on Medical Marijuana then Bush. He has arrested more people, and done more raids against medical marijuana in his 4 years then Bush as done in all 8 of his.
 
BladeVenom said:
First thing Obama was going to do when he became President was to shut down the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. It's still open, what does that tell you.
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Another Obama lie. I have deep regrets for voting for this Black Bush. I will vote third party this year.
 
BladeVenom said:
First thing Obama was going to do when he became President was to shut down the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. It's still open, what does that tell you.
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That he had no idea what the hell he was talking about before getting into Office? That he is a Chicago political machine product to the core?
 
The President doesn't control career civil servants. His reach within the DEA only goes down as far as those confirmed by the Senate. Those appointed don't have much power to fire career civil servants either. They can try and pressure them into doing the Admin's bidding but career civil servants often beat to their own drum.

The reason you see more arrests under Obama is because Obama DID sign an executive order telling the DEA to stop enforcing federal laws in states that have medical marijuana so long as the people were compliant with state laws. People thought they were in the clear, but Regional DEA offices just aren't following the Obama Admin. They don't have to either, as long as their are federal statutes on the books making marijuana illegal.

People are just so ill informed about how the executive branch really works. Outside the actual White House staff, the President just doesn't have much power over career civil servants. Nor do his appointed people. Career civil servants are there for a life time, appointed people for ~2 years.
 
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Wreckem said:
The President doesn't control career civil servants. His reach within the DEA only goes down as far as those confirmed by the Senate. Those appointed don't have much power to fire career civil servants either. They can try and pressure them into doing the Admin's bidding but career civil servants often beat to their own drum.

The reason you see more arrests under Obama is because Obama DID sign an executive order telling the DEA to stop enforcing federal laws in states that have medical marijuana so long as the people were compliant with state laws. People thought they were in the clear, but Regional DEA offices just aren't following the Obama Admin. They don't have to either, as long as their are federal statutes on the books making marijuana illegal.

People are just so ill informed about how the executive branch really works. Outside the actual White House staff, the President just doesn't have much power over career civil servants. Nor do his appointed people. Career civil servants are there for a life time, appointed people for ~2 years.
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Wrong, Obama reappointed Michele Leonhart, the same anti Medical Marijuana DEA head under Bush who went after medical marijuana. This isn't just some rogue agents at some regional office. This is multiple federal agencies, across entire states, this goes up to the head DOJ attorney in the region. These are people who are Appointed by Obama, not career people. To claim Obama is innocent in this is being ill informed.
 
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Wrong, Obama reappointed Michele Leonhart, the same anti Medical Marijuana DEA head under Bush who went after medical marijuana. This isn't just some rogue agents at some regional office. This is multiple federal agencies, across entire states, this goes up to the head DOJ attorney in the region. These are people who are Appointed by Obama, not career people. To claim Obama is innocent in this is being ill informed.
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The DEA in DC doesn't say who gets raided or when they get raided.

Regional Offices are more or less autonomous. Yes Leonhart is still there. Even if she wasn't the Regional Offices would still continue to conduct raids. Until Congress passes legislation repealing laws classifying marijuana as a schedule 1 drug, the regional DEA offices will continue to raid medical marijuana growers, because Executive Order doesn't trump statutory law in the eyes of more or less anyone, especially LEOs. Doesn't matter who the President is, or who the DEA Director is. It is solely up to Congress to act.
 
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Wreckem said:
The DEA in DC doesn't say who gets raided or when they get raided.

Regional Offices are more or less autonomous. Yes Leonhart is still there. Even if she wasn't the Regional Offices would still continue to conduct raids. Until Congress passes legislation repealing laws classifying marijuana as a schedule 1 drug, the regional DEA offices will continue to raid medical marijuana growers, because Executive Order doesn't trump statutory law in the eyes of more or less anyone, especially LEOs. Doesn't matter who the President is, or who the DEA Director is. It is solely up to Congress to act.
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It is still Attorneys that OBAMA appointed that is helping with the raids and prosecuting these people. It isn't just a some rogue region offices like you claim it is all of them.

It is way more than just the DEA too, it is Federal Attorneys that are Obama appointed.
 
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It is still Attorneys that OBAMA appointed that is helping with the raids and prosecuting these people. It isn't just a some rogue region offices like you claim it is all of them.
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You do realize USAtty's are autonomous once appointed. Each of the 94 USAttys have their own little fiefdom to themselves. They do NOT report to the Attorney General of the United States. They do what they want and pursue who they want. They all have political ambition beyond being a USAtty, and they really don't answer to anyone but the President. Sure, there is the Director of the Executive Office of USAO's but hes more or less the USAO's liaison to the DOJ. They can be fired by the President, but we all saw the controversy after Bush fired a bunch of them mid term.

USAtty's like making a name for themselves. Thats why they took the job. To make a name for themselves so they can move on to bigger and better things.

Again, only Congress can stop the DEA and USAO's from prosecuting medical marijuana users/growers.

And do you actually believe Obama would be able to get a Pro-Medical Marijuana USAtty or DEA Director confirmed by the Senate? They'd never even make it to a vote. The latest Obama USAtty confirmation is three years after it should have been. And I do believe there are still a couple more USAtty holdovers still remaining until the Senate confirms their replacements. The Republicans have obstructed Obama's timely appointing of USAtty and a whole host of other appointed people. If Obama loses in Nov, he will be one of a couple Presidents who weren't able to get all of their appointed positions filled out/confirmed.
 
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"you're not from Kenya....it's even worse....you're from Canada"...lols

nice jab about Red agenda, and Boener (sp) being orange
 
sandorski said:
His delivery seemed really off and rushed.
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I noticed he stumbled in a couple spots but overall it was pretty smooth. As he said, it's pretty hard to make fun of the president when he's sitting right next to you, and the audience isn't exactly the type you'd normally perform for in a comedy club or on his show
 
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