Kim Jong Il Throws his Support Behind Obama

Socio

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Kim Jong Il Throws his Support Behind Obama



There seems to be a clear pattern where the world?s worst are lining up in support of Obama, he already has most communist leaders endorcing him, along with groups like Hamas, and other Terrorists , the Black Pathers, Louis Farrakhan and the list just gets bigger and bigger.

Which begs the questions;

Should not we be concerned that the many of the world?s worst are solidly behind Obama because they see a better world for themselves if he is elected?

Should we not be concerned that Obama?s policies, his demeanor, and his past associations obviously lead them to believe this?

Should we not be concerned that Barack Obama has become the ?evils? messiah too?


Well I am concerned because if Obama gets elected he could be, although perhaps reluctantly, an enabler of evil. They will see this as a sign they will not be stopped, become more aggressive and egregious because of it.

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Locked because I locked a new, similar thread about a Communist Vietnamese torturer supporting McCain.

There are more than enough real topics to keep this forum busy without troll threads like these.

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Genx87

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I wouldnt put a whole lot of weight behind this. They most likely believe a Democrat will be more lax or forgiving of their actions. Which is hard to argue against as we have had a lot of Dove democrat candidates since LBJ.

Or it could be because Republicans are viewed as defacto leadership due to Republicans having the presidency so often over the past ~60 years. They want the opposition in power period. Things can change if we get a Democrat who sticks it to these people.

I dont buy for a second it is because of any policy issue outside of their percieved weakness of democrats or their dislike of republicans because they have worked with republicans for so long.
 

Robor

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Newsflash: Most of the civilized world doesn't want to see McCain continue GWB&Co's failed policies.

Oh, and you're a troll, Socio.
 

RKDaley

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This is really no concern to me but I think if you're going to make charges against someone at least be accurate. Where does it say Kim Jong supports Obama? The blog you link to links to another, which links to another article:http://www.worldtribune.com/wo...a_nkorea0256_06_19.asp
in which a newspaper notes it's preference. It does not quote Kim Jong saying what you are alleging.

Seems misleading and a stretch. Reminds me of that story that Obama's half brother said he was a Muslim, and that was debunked http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit...6/from-the-fact-c.html
 

BeauJangles

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I don't see how Obama could be an enabler of evil any more than the current regime. So far, GWB has undermined our nation's credibility, and done decades worth of damage to our reputation and, despite what others would say, our reputation matters. When we invaded Iraq, we created a whole new generation of jihadists. By acting with such impunity, we have spoiled relations, and our image, with thousands upon thousands of people. In short, pissing off half the world isn't a good way to protect yourself.
 

Tab

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I think a better thing would be to look at who hasn't thrown there support behind Obama.
 

ayabe

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"Enabler of evil" WTF?

Another fear bait thread, way to go.

How about this one?

Every single one of John McCain's foreign policy objectives will in fact result in the short and long term weakening of the United States.

So who's the bigger enabler of evil?

The guy who plans on continuing the policies of a President who has brought about a precipitous decline in our power and influence around the world for the past 8 years?

Or the realist who has acknowledged that we have stretched ourselves far beyond what we are capable of and that we cannot continue in this way?

It's very clear to the objective observer that another 4 or 8 years of staying the course literally in terms of our foreign policy will result in the end of America's dominance on the world stage.
 

RightIsWrong

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He also has the support of the some of the world's best leaders, thinkers and businessment. What does that tell you? That even the crazy can notice that Bush is a complete moron and failure and that McCain's pandering rhetoric to follow the Bush doctrine will only lead to more moronic decisions and failure.

The leader of Germany's Social Democrats (SPD) and the centre-left party's putative chancellor candidate broke with German political custom on Saturday and said he hoped the United States elects Barack Obama in November.

SPD chairman Kurt Beck said the whole world would be better off with a President Obama instead of another Republican administration. By endorsing the Democrats, Beck broke a tacit rule to refrain from any intervention in foreign elections.

India's Shashi Tharoor, a widely published author and former United Nations undersecretary, was even more emphatic: "Of course, Obama's election would change the perception of America. My kids all see this as an enormously exciting transformation in how Americans see themselves."

Singaporean Kishore Mahbubani, dean of the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, spelled it out even more dramatically, saying an Obama victory would "eliminate at least half the massive anti-Americanism felt around the world."

Warren Buffett, the world's richest man, is backing Barack Obama for US president and thinks current US economic policy will push the dollar lower against other global currencies.

He is one of America's most famous neo-conservatives and his ideas on the spread of democracy have informed the Bush administration's foreign policy.

But Francis Fukuyama, the author of The End of History and Professor of International Political Economy at Johns Hopkins University, is now a sharp critic of US President George W Bush and has even come out as a supporter of Democrat frontrunner Barack Obama for president.

Former President Jimmy Carter, who had remained neutral during the party's primary elections, also threw his support behind the Illinois senator.

But in a move that is unusually early and specific, a group of prominent historians on Monday issued a joint endorsement of Barack Obama?s bid for the presidency. The endorsement, released through the History News Network, was organized by Michael Kazin, a professor of history at Georgetown University, and Ralph E. Luker, a historian who is one of the leaders of the popular history blog Cliopatria. The scholars who signed included two past presidents of the American Historical Association ? Joyce Appleby of the University of California at Los Angeles and James McPherson of Princeton University ? and many other A-list scholars in the field.

 

brencat

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Originally posted by: Socio
Should not we be concerned that the many of the world?s worst are solidly behind Obama because they see a better world for themselves if he is elected?
Of course. They see him as a political neophyte who can be manipulated easily -- just as the hard left members of his own party like Kennedy, Kerry, and Pelosi do. In fact, they're counting on it to push through their agendas.

That said, we as a country shouldn't give a rats ass what the rest of the world thinks of us under any circumstances anyway -- I certainly don't -- and especially when electing a president. You vote for whoever shares your views and agenda.
 

Socio

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Originally posted by: RKDaley
This is really no concern to me but I think if you're going to make charges against someone at least be accurate. Where does it say Kim Jong supports Obama? The blog you link to links to another, which links to another article:http://www.worldtribune.com/wo...a_nkorea0256_06_19.asp
in which a newspaper notes it's preference. It does not quote Kim Jong saying what you are alleging.

Seems misleading and a stretch. Reminds me of that story that Obama's half brother said he was a Muslim, and that was debunked http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit...6/from-the-fact-c.html

More can be found on Michelle Malkins site;

YES! The ultimate Obama endorsement!

And yes you are right it does not sound verbatim explicit and I may have jumped the gun a bit but all arrows are indeed pointing to it.
 

LegendKiller

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What's funny is that a more moderated viewpoint on the world will increase our standing overall, helping rather than hurting us. I see no reason why we should be worried about people on the fringe "endorsing" obama.
 

venkman

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The s*it smearing seems especially rank in this campaign and we still haven't even had the conventions yet. :(
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Socio

Should not we be concerned that the many of the world?s people are solidly behind Obama because they see a better world for themselves if he is elected?

Fixed: http://ap.google.com/article/A...ub4tGxaYlBfbAD918T8Q80

People around the globe widely expect the next American president to improve the country's policies toward the rest of the world, especially if Barack Obama is elected, yet they retain a persistently poor image of the U.S., according to a poll released Thursday.

The survey of two dozen countries, conducted this spring by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center, also found a growing despondency over the international economy, with majorities in 18 nations calling domestic economic conditions poor. In more bad news for the U.S., people shared a widespread sense the American economy was hurting their countries, including large majorities in U.S. allies Britain, Germany, Australia, Turkey, France and Japan.
 

jackschmittusa

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Socio

World's worst? I see a pattern of people like you who are ethically challenged and morally bankrupt, not supporting him.
 

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If people worry about the worst supporting him (impression of softness), then they may choose McCain.

This could create a continual firm stand against the bad guys, making it easier for them to remain in power. They have a boogeyman.

Or they may actaully want to normalize relations so they can improve their country and be appreciated.

Or they may want less war drums so they can feel more secure in raping their country of what little wealth and get for aid from the oiutside to fill their coffers.
 

Butterbean

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Hell knows it's own. Obama's (and Michelles's) anti US sentiments and Marxism are a clear read for others on the dark side. Obama's is a resentment based campaign contrary to all the glossy veneer. Manipulators can spot other manipulators and the bad guys know Obama either share their views or will be complacent against them. The US people are the most marketing prone population going. They get "suggested" what to think and do so thinking it was their idea to start with. That's Obama's campaign in a nutshell. "Hope..change..its all about you... fa la la" - all ego stroking rubbish.

"It's not to say that there is already a revolution under way in the U.S. ? but yes, they are laying the foundations for a revolutionary change."

Daniel Ortega Obama supporter
 

Rio Rebel

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Cliff's notes:

Bad people endorse Obama, so he must be bad.
George W. Bush endorses McCain, but that doesn't mean McCain is an idiot like Bush.



 

Xavier434

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There are certain bits of news and facts during an election year which should be completely ignored because they really serve no purpose other than act as a distraction from the real issues at hand. This is a perfect example of what should be ignored. Who cares what this douche bag supports? Just because this guy supports of Obama it doesn't mean Obama supports him. End of story.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Hell knows it's own. Obama's (and Michelles's) anti US sentiments and Marxism are a clear read for others on the dark side. Obama's is a resentment based campaign contrary to all the glossy veneer. Manipulators can spot other manipulators and the bad guys know Obama either share their views or will be complacent against them. The US people are the most marketing prone population going. They get "suggested" what to think and do so thinking it was their idea to start with. That's Obama's campaign in a nutshell. "Hope..change..its all about you... fa la la" - all ego stroking rubbish.

"It's not to say that there is already a revolution under way in the U.S. ? but yes, they are laying the foundations for a revolutionary change."

Daniel Ortega Obama supporter

Hell knows its own? What a laugh. You don't recognize yourself at all. Although, come to think of it, even the devil himself is probably amazed by your psychotic, demented drivel. All you do is pump out ego stroking rubbish. That you complain of a resentment based campaign, however, is no surprise. Your posts are nothing but long screeds of foul and bitter resentment.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Hell knows it's own. Obama's (and Michelles's) anti US sentiments and Marxism are a clear read for others on the dark side. Obama's is a resentment based campaign contrary to all the glossy veneer. Manipulators can spot other manipulators and the bad guys know Obama either share their views or will be complacent against them. The US people are the most marketing prone population going. They get "suggested" what to think and do so thinking it was their idea to start with. That's Obama's campaign in a nutshell. "Hope..change..its all about you... fa la la" - all ego stroking rubbish.

"It's not to say that there is already a revolution under way in the U.S. ? but yes, they are laying the foundations for a revolutionary change."

Daniel Ortega Obama supporter

I hope to god you're joking, but I know you aren't. Please tell me how he's a Marxist, because otherwise I'm just going to assume you picked up the latest buzzword slander and threw it at Obama.