Killing things for no particularly good reason is idiotic.

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: ryan256
Sorry. But any animal considered a pest, unless domesticated, doesn't live long around me. Why would I simply move those rats somewhere else? So they can bug my neighbors or come back? No... they're going to die. Same with snakes. Sorry but I don't have the time to study snake breeds to know which ones are poisonous and which ones aren't. Again... I'll error on the side of caution and remove a potential threat.

Maybe you have rats because you killed the snakes.

I don't have rats. It was just a example.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: allisolm
Walking down the path was a man and his two kids *cough* rednecks *cough*.


Ignorance manifested like this makes me crazy mad.

Crazy mad, is that like insane insane?


Get that in the right order! You are crazy and what people say, makes you mad.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: ryan256
Sorry. But any animal considered a pest, unless domesticated, doesn't live long around me. Why would I simply move those rats somewhere else? So they can bug my neighbors or come back? No... they're going to die. Same with snakes. Sorry but I don't have the time to study snake breeds to know which ones are poisonous and which ones aren't. Again... I'll error on the side of caution and remove a potential threat.

With that attitude, I should be able to kill you if you come near me, because you know, you might be a murderer. I'll err on the side of caution and kill you.

And now someone's going to quote this and say "PEOPLE AND SNAKES ARE DIFFERENT!"

No sh!t. It's an analogy. The whole purpose of the thing is to emphasize a particular point by exageration. Comparing snakes to snakes doesn't really help to do that, does it?

But seriously, of all the snakes I've come across in my lifetime, only a couple have been dangerous. I come across a *LOT* more dangerous looking people than snakes, and I don't immediately start attacking them, or calling the police, or anything.

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: notfred
With that attitude, I should be able to kill you if you come near me, because you know, you might be a murderer. I'll err on the side of caution and kill you.

And now someone's going to quote this and say "PEOPLE AND SNAKES ARE DIFFERENT!"

No sh!t. It's an analogy. The whole purpose of the thing is to emphasize a particular point by exageration. Comparing snakes to snakes doesn't really help to do that, does it?

Nomination for self-ownage of the year!

 

[pinion9]

Prove snakes feel pain. I don't believe they do.

 

[NuclearNed]

Originally posted by: pinion9
Prove snakes feel pain. I don't believe they do.

So you think killing harmless creatures is ok because you don't believe they feel pain?

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: pinion9
Prove snakes feel pain. I don't believe they do.

I don't believe you exist. But of course, beliefs are usually wrong unless you have data to back it up. Ie, you are the one who must prove it. Show us links that snake brains show no signs of activity change when an extreme experience is being applied to them.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Amused
[*]Anything that enters my house, car or tent is fair game.
[*]Anything the bites or stings me is fair game.
[*]Anything that directly threatens me is fair game.
[*]Anything that's yummy when I'm hungry is fair game.
[*]Anything else is live and let live.

For the most part I agree. We rarely agree. But you've got it mostly correct finally.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Amused
[*]Anything that enters my house, car or tent is fair game.
[*]Anything the bites or stings me is fair game.
[*]Anything that directly threatens me is fair game.
[*]Anything that's yummy when I'm hungry is fair game.
[*]Anything else is live and let live.

For the most part I agree. We rarely agree. But you've got it mostly correct finally.

No, YOU'VE got it mostly correct finally.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: allisolm
Walking down the path was a man and his two kids *cough* rednecks *cough*.


Ignorance manifested like this makes me crazy mad.

The guy's from TN! If he says they were rednecks, then by God I believe him.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: notfred
With that attitude, I should be able to kill you if you come near me, because you know, you might be a murderer. I'll err on the side of caution and kill you.

And now someone's going to quote this and say "PEOPLE AND SNAKES ARE DIFFERENT!"

No sh!t. It's an analogy. The whole purpose of the thing is to emphasize a particular point by exageration. Comparing snakes to snakes doesn't really help to do that, does it?

Nomination for self-ownage of the year!

I explained it and you STILL missed the point. Awesome.

 

[OutHouse]

with all the snake lovers in here i guess i shouldnt tell you what i did to a 3.5 foot bull snake i found on my fence 2 weeks ago.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Citrix
with all the snake lovers in here i guess i shouldnt tell you what i did to a 3.5 foot bull snake i found on my fence 2 weeks ago.

Why would you kill a bull snake?

 

[rh71]

I don't know how to tell if a snake is poisonous or not. Can't tell by size, can't tell by color, you simply can't generalize... you'd actually have to know them for the most part... am I wrong ?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Citrix
with all the snake lovers in here i guess i shouldnt tell you what i did to a 3.5 foot bull snake i found on my fence 2 weeks ago.

Why would you kill a bull snake?

because they eat bulls duh!

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: pinion9
Prove snakes feel pain. I don't believe they do.

I don't believe you exist. But of course, beliefs are usually wrong unless you have data to back it up. Ie, you are the one who must prove it. Show us links that snake brains show no signs of activity change when an extreme experience is being applied to them.

have they ever proved that lobsters feel/experience no pain or was that just a statement by seafood lovers ?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: allisolm
Walking down the path was a man and his two kids *cough* rednecks *cough*.


Ignorance manifested like this makes me crazy mad.

I'm sorry I offended your delicate sensibilities. That said, they were still rednecks, and no - I'm not generalizing. This is eastern TN, and they abound. Heck, a lot of them are even proud of the fact that they are rednecks. Picture every stereotype you can imagine about rednecks (mullets, beer guts - even on the kids, nascar tshirts), and you have a pretty accurate picture of what this man and his kids looked like.

Ah yes. East TN. Ned is right.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Originally posted by: allisolm
Walking down the path was a man and his two kids *cough* rednecks *cough*.


Ignorance manifested like this makes me crazy mad.

go sip some starbucks

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: Citrix
with all the snake lovers in here i guess i shouldnt tell you what i did to a 3.5 foot bull snake i found on my fence 2 weeks ago.

Why would you kill a bull snake?

because it was a big scary snake in my yard, something i wasnt expecting and it scared the sh*t out of me. for the record i dont kill the garter snakes i find.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Amused
Anything that enters my house, car or tent is fair game.

Anything the bites or stings me is fair game.

Anything that directly threatens me is fair game.

Anything that's yummy when I'm hungry is fair game.

Anything else is live and let live.

Those arent bad, but too confusing for me.

I'm a simple guy.

Feathers, fins, fur or fluff. It all dies.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: ryan256
Sorry. But any animal considered a pest, unless domesticated, doesn't live long around me. Why would I simply move those rats somewhere else? So they can bug my neighbors or come back? No... they're going to die. Same with snakes. Sorry but I don't have the time to study snake breeds to know which ones are poisonous and which ones aren't. Again... I'll error on the side of caution and remove a potential threat.

Funny, because in Australia, where they have REAL poisonous snakes, they don't seem to be as much into killing them as here.

Typical Australian scene:
"Crikey, mate, I just spotted a deadly taipan in my bedroom!"
"Shall we take it outside and release it?"
"Naw, ought to be good for a laugh or two when the wife wakes up"

Typical American scene:
"'ey Jim-Bob, I jes spotted one of dem wriggly snake-thingums 'bout 20 miles from here!"
"Yeehaw, let's show that spawn-o-the-divil who's boss!"
"Gosh-durn-it, it bit me!"
"Ya figger we should go to the hospital?"
"Naw, you know how Doc hates being bothered. It'll hold fer a couple days, let's watch NASCAR."

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: ryan256
Sorry. But any animal considered a pest, unless domesticated, doesn't live long around me. Why would I simply move those rats somewhere else? So they can bug my neighbors or come back? No... they're going to die. Same with snakes. Sorry but I don't have the time to study snake breeds to know which ones are poisonous and which ones aren't. Again... I'll error on the side of caution and remove a potential threat.

Funny, because in Australia, where they have REAL poisonous snakes, they don't seem to be as much into killing them as here.

Typical Australian scene:
"Crikey, mate, I just spotted a deadly taipan in my bedroom!"
"Shall we take it outside and release it?"
"Naw, ought to be good for a laugh or two when the wife wakes up"

Typical American scene:
"'ey Jim-Bob, I jes spotted one of dem wriggly snake-thingums 'bout 20 miles from here!"
"Yeehaw, let's show that spawn-o-the-divil who's boss!"
"Gosh-durn-it, it bit me!"
"Ya figger we should go to the hospital?"
"Naw, you know how Doc hates being bothered. It'll hold fer a couple days, let's watch NASCAR."

 

[Glavinsolo]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Like most people, I'm not a snake lover. I'm not a tree-hugging hippie either. But a couple of things happened this weekend that bothered me a lot.

1. There is a trail that runs through the woods adjacent to the town where I live. This trail is our town's "linear park", and is used by joggers, walkers, etc. It runs parallel to a creek, so as one would expect there are a lot of snakes. A couple of days ago there was a tiny harmless snake in the path, so I got a stick to shoo it off to somewhere safe. Walking down the path was a man and his two kids *cough* rednecks *cough*. As soon as the kids saw what I was doing, one of them ran up to me and asked if he could kill the snake. Huh? Why would you want to do that?

2. A couple of days later I found a little dead snake on the path. At a quick glance, it would have been easy for anyone who knows anything about snakes to determine that is was not venomous and was completely harmless. Somone had crushed its head. I can't help but think that someone killed it for no better reason than because it was a snake.

Ignorance manifested like this makes me crazy mad.

http://healing.about.com/library/howto/ht_hugatree.htm
1.) Find yourself a quiet park, forest, or woodland area.
2.) Walk among the trees until you feel comfortable in their presence.
3.) Feel the different bark textures with the palms of your hands.
4.) Smell the scent of the various woods.
5.) Absorb their life's energies as you look upwards to the sprawling branches overhead.
6.) Find the perfect tree that fits your mood. You will know which one is right for you.
7.) Vertical Tree Hug: Encircle it with your arms while gently pressing your cheek to the trunk being careful not to scratch your face. Squeeze tightly. Sigh deeply. Be one with your tree.
8.) Full Body Tree Hug: Sit upon the ground wrapping your legs around the base of the tree and at the same time embracing it with your arms.
9.) Up in the Air Tree Hug: Climb a tree. Sit upon a strong limb and straddle it with your legs. Bend forward and place your belly against it while wrapping your arms about it.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: GarlicBreath
It's some old-timey thing. My Dad (71 years old) is like that. He's not a redneck, either. Dad sees a snake = instant snake death. No matter what kind of snake. My Dad's buddies are like that, too.

Once when I was a kid, Dad and I were fishing from a boat. A snake was swimming at the surface, coming right by the boat. I was really fascinated with the serpentine swimming motion and said:

"Hey! Cool! Look at th...."

THWACK

Dad broke the snake's back with his fishing rod. I was stunned, as I'd never before (or since) seen my dad do anything like that. He's not an animal lover, but I've never known him to be cruel to animals. Except for snakes, I guess.

What kind of snake though? It could have been a water mocassin (sp?) which is poisonous.

 

[DaShen]

Humans have a natural ingrained instinct to be afraid of snakes. Even if they are non-poisonous, humans by nature want to get away from them fight-or-flight. Of course some people don't have such a large reaction to them and with a little time begin to enjoy snakes. But that is part of the "reason" why they kill them because they are afraid.

Even still, it makes me angry too. I don't even like killing insects unless I have to. I will and not feel bad about it, but I would rather live and let live for the most part. If there is a way to get the insect out of the house without too much hassle, I will attempt to do it. What gets to me is all of the drivers in Texas ("truck" drivers) that veer on the road just to hit something. I have seen it quite often while riding on the road. It makes me sick. I honestly think some of these people would veer into a cyclist if there weren't any repercussions from it. :|