Killing cats: anyone have a solution to cats "going" in our yard?

AndrewR

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I am at the point where I am going to leave out a little bowl of antifreeze for these mongrels since every other effort has failed. Here's the situation:

When we moved into this house (we're in Okinawa, Japan), the yard in front, all 6 ft x 10 ft of it, was little more than bare dirt that the previous tenants hadn't bothered to tend. The local cats apparently found it appealing for themselves. There are numerous (minimum 10 within 200m radius) cats in this neighborhood, and it is impossible to determine ownership because they move freely among all the houses and apartments. I suspect many are strays, but it's possible that some are owned, if you can call the negligent manner in which they are handled "ownership".

We have since planted grass, several flowering plants, and a tree so the yard is looking much better though it's not where we want it yet. The problem now is that the cats STILL like to use it, and their "gifts" kill the grass and smell to high heaven. Despite the presence of our dog, who chases the cats frequently, and the use of two different commercial cat repellents, the cats refuse to go away. Now, we are in weather that allows us to open our windows, but we cannot open our kitchen window because of the smell. It also reflects poorly on us that we have crap in our yard, and I am determined to be a good ambassador for Americans while living in Japan, which is the main reason we have been working on the yard for this long.

I've already spent $40 on the commercial repellents to attempt to fix the problem so I'm not buying an ultrasonic device to keep them away. Plus, since it is located immediately beneath our kitchen window and also beneath our bedroom on the 2nd floor, where our dog sleeps at night, an ultrasonic device would probably annoy her if we used one.

Does anyone have any ideas before I give these cats kidney failure? Seems like it's only two, but I have no way to figure out which ones it is because we don't have a direct way to monitor the lawn except from our cars because of the way the house is built. Most of the cats in neighborhood seem to avoid our house these days because of the dog (80lb Rhodesian Ridgeback) since we used to see them constantly in the street but no longer. I don't think putting out antifreeze would kill dozens, therefore.

I'm at my wits' end. I hate to injure or kill an animal, but I've had enough. Any other ideas?
 

Mill

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You said you have tried commercial repellent? I've had good luck with cats/dogs and using a stay-off/no sit spray. 99% of the time you can use it outside as well, and they will no longer want to urinate there.
 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: Mill
You said you have tried commercial repellent? I've had good luck with cats/dogs and using a stay-off/no sit spray. 99% of the time you can use it outside as well, and they will no longer want to urinate there.

I've tried a powder that I bought on-base, and these pellets that I bought online. No effect. It's also not necessarily the urination -- it's the brown presents.

Which brings up another problem: We are VERY limited in what we can find here or buy online. But, as I said, I am NOT spending much more money since antifreeze is fairly cheap and WILL work. Again though, I dislike cats, but I do not relish killing an animal, even a cat.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Mill
You said you have tried commercial repellent? I've had good luck with cats/dogs and using a stay-off/no sit spray. 99% of the time you can use it outside as well, and they will no longer want to urinate there.

I've tried a powder that I bought on-base, and these pellets that I bought online. No effect. It's also not necessarily the urination -- it's the brown presents.

Which brings up another problem: We are VERY limited in what we can find here or buy online. But, as I said, I am NOT spending much more money since antifreeze is fairly cheap and WILL work. Again though, I dislike cats, but I do not relish killing an animal, even a cat.

I'd seriously lose a lot of respect for you if you killed them(not that you care for my respect necessarily, but still). Antifreeze is pretty painful to kill anything, and I don't think every option has been exhausted. I'm sure you are frustrated and pissed, but the pellets and powder might not be effective for your usage. I'm not sure what products they were anyway. There are sprays made by tons of manufacturers that prevent a cat or dog from entering an area. They won't even want to poop there either. Not sure what you have available at base, but can you import stuff? I know you don't want to kill the animals, but still even considering it is not an option for me. Have you tried talking to any of the people around you? Maybe look online for other solutions or things you can plant or put up that will scare them away. Another solution might be what my grandfather did to keep cats out of his garden. He used a squir gun like a powersoaker to spray them anytime they came around, and for the stingy ones he used plastic pellets out of a slingshot or pellet gun that shoots plastic pellets. If you hit them in the body with those pellets it won't hurt them but it will scare them out of your yard. Squirt gun or water hose is VERY effective as well. I know you might not have the time, but I bet you and your wife could get them a few times and they would get the message.

I know you are limited as to what you can get, but can you get stuff APO/military mail? I'd be happy to try to pick some stuff up at the pet store and mail it to you... I know that may take awhile, but I really hate for you to kill them.
 

csiro

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You can put out litter boxes. That'll get rid of the smell. :D

Seriously though, just stay home one day and hose any cat that comes in your yard. Keep that up and the cats will know to stay away.
 

TitanDiddly

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Get a motion detector, and position it so that it only covers the yard. Attach it to a 12 PS and that to a car horn. Turn the sesnitivity way high, and set it to keep on only when there is activity. Cat enters yard... HOOOONK! Until they get out of yard. Or get a lawn sprinkler and leave it going constantly, turning your front yard into a mudpit.
 

Rogue

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A little known fact is that cats really hate citrus anything. I don't know how you might be able to employ it, but cats really do hate citrus for some reason. Next time you're around a cat, get an orange peel in hold it up to it's nose if you want to test.
 

Savij

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Get non-lethal cat traps? Just keep trapping the buggers and ducttape them in the wheel well of some random plane on the base...
 

Azraele

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I have no respect for anyone who would stoop to such a low. :disgust:

I do admire that you have tried various methods. Keep trying and good luck.
 

ViperXX

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I say shoot the little Mo-Fo's with a paintball gun. Sit out in the yard and when they prop a squat, open up on them..
 

Codewiz

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Ummm, they make traps. Trap the suckers and give them to a shelter.....

You are a pathetic human being if you go killing animals to have a "nicer" yard to impress people with your americanism. You should won't be a good "ambassador" in my opinion.
 

alkemyst

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kill yourself, problem solved.

Are you sure you aren't just reading Okinawa news on stray cat problems esp. the tons of military and cats on Okinawa?

Either way it's doubtful you will solve any problem alone if you have one.

Å
 

abaez

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My dad fills milk jugs with water and puts the cap on them and leaves them out in the yard. It seems to work for some reason but then you have filled milk jugs in your yard. Up to you.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
kill yourself, problem solved.

Are you sure you aren't just reading Okinawa news on stray cat problems esp. the tons of military and cats on Okinawa?

Either way it's doubtful you will solve any problem alone if you have one.

Å

He lives in Okinawa.... he is in the military....
rolleye.gif
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: alkemyst
kill yourself, problem solved.

Are you sure you aren't just reading Okinawa news on stray cat problems esp. the tons of military and cats on Okinawa?

Either way it's doubtful you will solve any problem alone if you have one.

Å

He lives in Okinawa.... he is in the military....
rolleye.gif

aren't you the guy in the movies that lost his baseball?

My point was "IS HE REALLY EXPERIENCING THIS" or "DID HE JUST READ THE LOCAL PAPER WHERE HE IS NOW STATIONED"

So many I have encountered both living here or abroad that merely find 'stories' and pass them off as their own.

Japan stories especially are popular lately since 'Japan' is such the rage. Usually its about a sword maker, dojo, car, or sexual habits.

My wife and her friends here which are all mostly either H1B from Japan or recent transfers and back home laugh about the 'bandwagon' attempts especially the 'baka gaijins' that are claiming 10's to 100's of sexual conquests since they came to Japan for a business trip.

Å
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: alkemyst
kill yourself, problem solved.

Are you sure you aren't just reading Okinawa news on stray cat problems esp. the tons of military and cats on Okinawa?

Either way it's doubtful you will solve any problem alone if you have one.

Å

He lives in Okinawa.... he is in the military....
rolleye.gif

aren't you the guy in the movies that lost his baseball?

My point was "IS HE REALLY EXPERIENCING THIS" or "DID HE JUST READ THE LOCAL PAPER WHERE HE IS NOW STATIONED"

So many I have encountered both living here or abroad that merely find 'stories' and pass them off as their own.

Japan stories especially are popular lately since 'Japan' is such the rage. Usually its about a sword maker, dojo, car, or sexual habits.

My wife and her friends here which are all mostly either H1B from Japan or recent transfers and back home laugh about the 'bandwagon' attempts especially the 'baka gaijins' that are claiming 10's to 100's of sexual conquests since they came to Japan for a business trip.

Å

No one gives a fvck what you think brother of luvly. If you've ever read Andrew's post he isn't one to make random BS up like you do. Chill and stop crapping on the thread. Now respond with a nice diatribe and attempt to create a pointless debate like you always do. BOL... You seem to interject something about your wife being Japanese in every thread, and act as if no one but you and here have ever lived there.